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The Witcher The Witcher IV - The Ciri Saga Begins

Lagole Gon

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Aside from the codexian reactionary objections...

It's just generic. Ciri being the protag is the obvious corporate milking choice.
The trailer is the most predictable shit ever. Straightforward monster fight, you can't change you destiny yadayada...
The only good thing about it is the folk aesthetic.
 

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To be fair, she never got to be a full blown sorceress. Triss and Yennefer gave her some basic training but she could only cast most basic spells and often failed when doing so. She was supposed to enter the school of sorcery in Aretusa, but she never got a chance to study there.

The Sorceress Lodge wanted to continue her training but in the game that never happened and the Lodge was destroyed by Radovid (the novels also suggest that most of its members were murdered, later to be revered by the future generations of sorcerors).

Her only magical abilities (travel through time and space) are a result of her Elder Blood. And while she masters them in Witcher 3, she knows no offensive spells useful against monsters.

The only reason Ciri never used in book her magic power was that she was tracked non stop which gets resolved by end of TW3. This is supposed to be years after the fact.
So yeah NETFLIX writers onboard. Shit even CDPR dude says that this trailer takes place just before she will take trial of grasses which further makes no sense considering she already has cat's eyes stuff.
 

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Knowing how heads of CDPR operate i think here's how it went:

- C77 release happened
- CDPR heads realized that they might fuck up whole company
- instead of unknown new witcher saga which can sink complately company go with ciri and witcher 4
 

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Watching the trailer was a lot like playing Witcher 3--it was way too long, had no gameplay to speak of, and stank of fedora atheist simping.
You speak as if earlier Witcher games had any pro-religion message.

In the freaking Act 1 of Witcher 1 the main antagonist is a power-hungry priest.

Religion in general does not play a positive role, neither in Witcher books nor games. To expect that would be pure ignorance.
This fourth game will obviously be much worse; its fate was sealed from the moment CDPR opened offices in America--but you could already see the signs back in 2015.
Office in America will work on Cyberpunk 2078 and I'm indeed quite worried for this game. Witcher however will be worked on by CDPR A-team in Poland so I have more hopes for this one.
That Cyberpunk managed to avoid drowning in woke cringe back in 2020 was just a happy accident: degeneracy and body horror suited the dystopian setting. Expect absolutely nothing even half decent to come out of CDPR ever again.
Managing your expectations is always a good advice in the year 2024. I'm just awaiting more info about the game. So far CDPR didn't dissapoint me (I played CP2077 only in 2023, after the expansion was released). So I keep an open mind about their game.
 

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Knowing how heads of CDPR operate i think here's how it went:

- C77 release happened
- CDPR heads realized that they might fuck up whole company
- instead of unknown new witcher saga which can sink complately company go with ciri and witcher 4
Maybe they should not have shit the bed with C77 to begin with
 

Perkel

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No wonder they went with UE5. It's all they fucking know.

Executive producer Małgorzata Mitręga
2 years in CDPR (since 2023)

Worked on:
Dying Light 2 - no specified role
Dyining Light - level designer
Dogfight 1942 - arcade game

Game director Sebastian Kalemba
Worked on:
Cyberpunk 2077 - lead animation director
Witcher 3 - character animator

Narrative Director Philipp Weber
Worked on:
Cyberpunk 2077 - Quest designer
Witcher 3 - Quest designer

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Narrative designer is not a pole. How the fuck he will understand source material ? That's like American making Stalker.
 

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Aside from the codexian reactionary objections...

It's just generic. Ciri being the protag is the obvious corporate milking choice.
The trailer is the most predictable shit ever. Straightforward monster fight, you can't change you destiny yadayada...
The only good thing about it is the folk aesthetic.
Yes, leaving the rest aside, this trailer is basically just a femmed-up reprise of the Witcher 3 trailer, which itself was already a little on the smug reddit side. Wow, so the real monsters are human? Profound! In both trailers, the humans' crime can be fairly summarized as "misogynistic oppression," so we're not even altering the notes, here.

You speak as if earlier Witcher games had any pro-religion message.

The first two games had tinges of Sapkowski's fedora atheism, sure, but they had a lot less simping, and a lot less padding. Witcher 3's primary sin is that the main story goes on way too long. This is a flaw that is largely corrected in the excellent DLC storylines, but by that point the player has most likely endured 80-ish hours of Quen-spamming dodge rolls only to find out that the whole main game hinges on whether Geralt gave Ciri enough confidence boosting compliments before she goes off to save the world.

Don't get me wrong; I don't hate Witcher 3. It's probably the second-best Witcher (after 1). I enjoyed it when I played through it, 9 years ago. It was an astonishing feat in terms of presentation, in its time. But in retrospect I don't think Witcher 3 holds up very well. Cyberpunk is a superior game in just about every way--better core gameplay/combat, better RPG/character-build mechanics/variety, and a more interesting, and much shorter, main story. Based on themes and characterizations, you might credibly argue that the authors' ideological baggage is far less obtrusive in Cyberpunk.

Nor am I singling out CDPR, here. They're simply victims of a plague that has stricken mainstream corporate game development across the board. At this point, if a studio's semi-big and not based in Bohemia, stick a fork in them.
 
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From interview:

“She's actually about to become the Witcher,” Kalemba explained. “She's about to actually form her own codex, but on her own terms. The way she actually deals with the monsters, the way she deals with quests, the adventures, it's her own unique way. And also I think that she gives more room to be able to tell different stories here and there. Of course, we want to give the opportunity for the player to explore more nuance because this is what we do. But she deserves that.

“There was an intention behind this choice,” Kalemba said. “It was far from roulette. It wasn't random. I remember we had discussions nine years ago, we were talking about who's next? The very, very instant answer was Ciri. There are many reasons behind that. We've already mentioned a few. But she really deserves a stage and we want players to really experience her story because she has so much to tell, so much to prove."

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Here my child. Let me mutilate you, make you infertile and give you job where people will spat on you and hate you.

YOU DESERVE IT.
 

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