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The Witcher The Witcher IV - The Ciri Saga Begins

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I don't think Ciri would undergo the trials of the grasses. I can't recall fully but didn't they steal the notes to the rituals in the 1st game or something like that? I think there was some mention about it the 3rd game about it, maybe a quest or something.

She's already killing monsters anyway and will probably have magic to balance the witcher quirks she is lacking.

Have you watched the trailer? She has Witcher eyes not green, uses potions, and some idiot dude working on a game already said something like she is a Witcher now.

I doubt people working on this (women) knows or cares about the lore so it wont be adressed anyway.
 

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Breaking the lore so that they can just copy paste every gameplay system from previous games.
Female monster in the trailer, female villager being prominent too, the villain is certain to be another female too.
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ayy lmao. I completely missed the eyes when I watched it this morning. There'll probably be some quest or something about it to be honest. I just googled trial of the grasses and the fanwiki even adress that the School of the Cat has some edited formula specifically for women. I doubt CD Projekt will miss that.

"Reportedly, only three in ten boys survived the standard trial. In the case of women, with the experimental mutation formula developed by the School of the Cat, only one in ten survived. In both trials, those who didn't survive died in agony, while those who did gained lightning-quick reflexes, their signature cat-like eyes, and other bodily enhancements. This experimental formula was later perfected by the Zerrikanian mage Nasira Faizan by the year the Second Conjunction of the Spheres occurred, 1358."

But yeah Ciri being a full-fledged witcher adds a slightly sour taste in my mouth.
 

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I wonder if this guy is handling it well.

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I don't think Ciri would undergo the trials of the grasses. I can't recall fully but didn't they steal the notes to the rituals in the 1st game or something like that? I think there was some mention about it the 3rd game about it, maybe a quest or something.

She's already killing monsters anyway and will probably have magic to balance the witcher quirks she is lacking.
According to book lore the knowledge of how to create mutagens that cause the transformation was lost during the mob attack on Kaer Morhen - people who knew about it died during the fall of the castle.

There are still old mutagens stored in Kaer Morhen and Vesemir uses them to create new generation of witchers (Geralt, Eskel, Lambert, Coën) but in the newly published novel (Crossroad of Crows) Sapkowski suggests that he really didn't know what he was doing and his contemporary, witcher Preston Holt wanted to stop the Trial of Grass altogether because it resulted in too many adolescent deaths. Which, among other reasons, caused Preston to be banished from the castle.

Sapkowski also suggests that mutagens deteriorate over time and the effect of their usage would get increasingly volatile. He mentions unsuccessful experiments, like the creation of Cats (a generation of witchers created in a different school that all turned out to be violent psychopaths).

So it would make no sense for Ciri to undergo the trials. She's too old and of a wrong gender. Most importantly, she's too important for Geralt to expose her to a process with a 10% survival rate.
 

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Remember that part where game told you through various characters that trial of grasses as inhumane procedure born out of necessity to give some normal men ability to fight monsters and most of them would die ?

Yeah princess Ciri el Ranion, a full blow sorceress and mutant that can teleport at will will go through that process instead of immolating some monster from inside with a thought.
 

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Yeah, I was just pondering why would Ciri want to undergo such a trial anyway?
I think this isn't a bad question for one of the bigger plot points in the game to revolve around.
 

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You could make this game 150y into the future, she was an Emperess had bunch of children and grandchildren, saw them die of old age and some became power hungry idiots, so she decided to make amends and become a Witcher.

But its way above these writer heads. I doubt they even think about all these lore problems.
 

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Yeah princess Ciri el Ranion, a full blow sorceress and mutant that can teleport at will will go through that process instead of immolating some monster from inside with a thought.
To be fair, she never got to be a full blown sorceress. Triss and Yennefer gave her some basic training but she could only cast most basic spells and often failed when doing so. She was supposed to enter the school of sorcery in Aretusa, but she never got a chance to study there.

The Sorceress Lodge wanted to continue her training but in the game that never happened and the Lodge was destroyed by Radovid (the novels also suggest that most of its members were murdered, later to be revered by the future generations of sorcerors).

Her only magical abilities (travel through time and space) are a result of her Elder Blood. And while she masters them in Witcher 3, she knows no offensive spells useful against monsters.
 

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I watched the latest trailer and Im happy with the themes that W4 is going to be about

Ciri was always an established character that is part of the broader narrative so playing her as a female is not an example of wokeness

I would prefer to play a man as my main character but this decision is definitely not a big issue for me or any kind of dealbreaker
 

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Wow this is even worse then I thought it would be. They even made Ciri ugly. Tradition bad, progress good. Female Witcher. Fight for yourself woman, there is no god. Man are monsters. This is beyond retarded, CDPR went full woke, DEI ate them from inside. This trailer spits on The Witcher, it looks like Netflix production.

Btw as for Ciri's trial of grasses, Geralt and Vesemir would never allow it to happen, because they love her to much. It's even not possible lore wise.
 
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As if there was ever any hope of it being good. CDPR already proved they're on a steep decline with Cyberpunk, and Witcher 3 wasn't very good to begin with. That they uglified Ciri and will turn the story into woke crap is just par for the course, really - part and parcel of embracing decline.

A fitting continuation to one of the most overrated studios in modern RPG landscape.
 

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There are so many things wrong with that trailer.
- A peasant trying to grab a witcher by the shoulder like if was nothing when witchers are supposed to be feared by the commonfolk like freaks.
- Ciri acting like an asshole for no reason whatsoever when she was raised by Geralt to be mostly easy going.
- Her design is now bulkier and heavy, when her fighting style is supposed to be flexible and lithe.
- DRINKING a potion AFTER combat starts instead of BEFORE.
- Telling the girl she is supposed to save to fuck off instead of reassuring her.
- Defeating a monster twice as big as her with BRUTE force instead of wit or luck. Not even Geralt could do that.
- The worst part is the ending. In an attempt to "subvert expectations" they show the girl she was trying to safe gets killed by the peasants instead of the monster. But only shows Ciri as incompetent.

If she wanted to save the girl, why didn't she take measures for that instead of telling her to fuck off? In contrast Geralt successfully saved a girl of being hanged and killed a demon without causalities in similar situations. And that line about Gods not existing? Shit's looking bad.
She's not supposed to drink the witcher potions in the first place, mr. Lore scholar.
 

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I'm not even being a Codexian chud prick here. She took mutation anabolic shit meant only for young males.
It's suggesterd in the books that going through full witcher thing could fuck up her female biology.
There's some altered girly version from the School of the Cat supposedly.
 

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i'd rather play as debra wilson than ciri
jesus christ poles, what a stupid decision
I mean Ciri being the protag is the most unsurprising thing since I opened my eyes today and the sun was up. TW4 was always bound to be either about Ciri (much higher chance) or CDPR going back 300 years and telling the story about how witchers started (which they can still do with their other mysterious project).
 

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Okay, watched the trailer.

Direction and cinematics are great as always - CDPR knows how to do these.

As for the content... yeah, they turned Ciri into an actual witcher. Mutated eyes, elixirs, a mix between witcher signs and some rudimentary magic. If they wish to be consistent, transformation also causes infertility, so the Elder bloodline would end with Cirilla Fiona Rhiannon.

Her medallion is weird, most likely CDPR will try to explain she underwent transformation in some other school than Kaer Morhen - most likely behind Geralt's back, for he would never allow her to take such risks.

As for the anti-religious message, I wouldn't make too much of it. When the peasants say they wanted to sacrifice the girl to the 'gods', Ciri simply answers "There are no gods HERE, only monsters", because she already faced the entity in the cavern and knows it was just that.
 

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Enjoy the Revolution! Another revolution around the sun that is.
I don't mind the idea of Ciri as main protag.
I wouldn't mind Ciri 10 years ago. Just as I didn't mind any female protags up until 10 years ago or so.

But now, whenever I see a female protag game or movie or show I just roll my eyes and think "Pass".

I kindda expected Ciri to be the TW4 protag but the news still kindda got me down. It's the fucking times we're living in.
 

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I'm not even being a Codexian chud prick here. She took mutation anabolic shit meant only for young males.
It's suggesterd in the books that going through full witcher thing could fuck up her female biology.
There's some altered girly version from the School of the Cat supposedly.

More like School of the Catlady, amirite?

Watching the trailer was a lot like playing Witcher 3--it was way too long, had no gameplay to speak of, and stank of fedora atheist simping. This fourth game will obviously be much worse; its fate was sealed from the moment CDPR opened offices in America--but you could already see the signs back in 2015.

That Cyberpunk managed to avoid drowning in woke cringe back in 2020 was just a happy accident: degeneracy and body horror suited the game's dystopian setting, and the developers' Polishness had insulated them from the most insane fashions of the California/Brooklynite cultural regime. Expect absolutely nothing even half decent to come out of CDPR ever again.
 
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Figures that CDPR would be too numbskulled to design The Witcher IV around a customizable protagonist, rather than relying on a different pregenerated character, and to set it earlier in the setting's history when more witchers were around, rather than even later.

Zero expectations.
 

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