The Witcher The Witcher IV - The Ciri Saga Begins

[Jenkem]

 

[GrainWetski]

Euro-chuds really misusing the term "DEI" lately, I've noticed.

Geralt's story was over and choosing Ciri as the protagonist of a rebooted Witcher series was a pretty intuitive direction to go that many people expected. That's not DEI. You can be upset that she isn't hawt enough in the trailer, but that's not DEI either.

DEI would be if they gave Geralt a black best friend all of a sudden, or race-swapped Dandelion, or something like that.

Is it in your genetics or are all of you groomed from birth to be like this?

 

[Serus]

Euro-chuds really misusing the term "DEI" lately, I've noticed.

Geralt's story was over and choosing Ciri as the protagonist of a rebooted Witcher series was a pretty intuitive direction to go that many people expected. That's not DEI. You can be upset that she isn't hawt enough in the trailer, but that's not DEI either.

DEI would be if they gave Geralt a black best friend all of a sudden, or race-swapped Dandelion, or something like that.

Is it in your genetics or are all of you groomed from birth to be like this?

Personally, I think it is purely cultural, genetics have nothing to do with it but this is a matter of discussion. However the talk about Jews is in General Discussion, not here.

 

[Lagole Gon]

And also the countless simulators

Never met a single person in my life who plays those games. I always assumed they were made as a joke and maybe a few bored people play them ironically on stream or whatever.

I know a guy who works as a driver and plays train games to relax.
And another guy who works on trains and plays truck simulator games to relax.

 

[Mark Richard]

Wondered how they were going to make a dimension-shifting demi-god the protagonist for their new game, and the answer was right in front of us – sequel depowering. It's when a character becomes a master of time and space, only for the studio to realize they've made a sequel impossible. The Avatar becomes the Titan of Ether in Ultima 8, only to return in Ultima 9 as an imbecile. Ciri is chugging potions and using a witcher's rudimentary peasant magic like its some impressive feat when its really a massive demotion from what she was.

Ciri becoming a Witcher is my least favourite ending from TW3. It just felt like pure fanfiction and wasn't in keeping with the tone of the world at all (there's always a catch). The empress ending was better suited. You bolster Ciri's independence only to lose her to her newfound responsibilities like a child flying from the nest. Making her a Witcher invalidates that growth when funnily they're trying to empower her. My pessimism also suspects she's a witcher because its the most marketable role and a male-dominated space, rather than for any legitmate reasons that align with her character development.

 

[yellowcake]

Yeah I was always hoping they would go with dimension hopping as a theme for the game. It's a plot device wound up and ready for action (even for multiple sequels). You could even go for some meta stuff like Yoko Taro (which again: suits the source material) but that would require actual talent and vision to pull off.

 

[Serus]

Poland is and has always been a mistake. Hopefully it's next on Russia's menu and Germany helps out for old time's sake.

Yeah, hopefully 'based' Germany invades the Poles.

One less shit country on the map is one less shit country on the map.

Well, if you put it that way:

 

[ColaWerewolf]

BTW, isn't the many-armed monster the last surviving Crone, the Weavess?

It's a man who feeds off of girls traumatized by the patriarchy.

If there’s anything guaranteed to be found along that journey, it’s monsters. A witcher is nothing without a bounty to hunt, after all. And in the trailer we get a look at an intimidating new foe.

“His name is Bauk”, says Kalemba. “He has this ability to smell your fear, to be able to play with your traumas, to paralyze you. So that you finally become easy prey, an easy meal.

 

[Tyrr]

It was always woke you tourists

It was mostly just small things on the side. For example you only learn that the hunter was gay if you keep talking to him. Or the elf was a cross-dresser, not a tranny (he would be a tranny today).
I have the theory that the woke stuff in W3 was put in by people lower on the hierarchy back then. But now these people are calling the shots in CDPR.

 

[Quillon]

choosing Ciri as the protagonist of a rebooted Witcher series was a pretty intuitive direction to go that many people expected

speaking for myself and many others here, - iirc - yeah we expected them to take that direction while acknowledging how ridiculous it would be with her godlike powers. we'll see how well they spun the story around nerfing her, and they even took on the additional challenge of making her a witcher on top because the of the games' title. writers at cdpr must have a lot of self confidence... could easily muck it up

so no they had to/will have to jump through a lot of hoops to make this work, its not really a straight forward decision. don't know about DEI tho, don't even know what it means

 

[Serus]

3 We got far left socialists government, with a lot of incompetent woman at position of power, including such Orwellian ministries as Ministry of equity or Ministry of climate.
4 We are snowballing into becoming communist country again.
5 Presidential elections are coming and if commie government candidate win, we are fucked.

You mean: we got rid of a filthy socialist government. Our current Tuskfuhrer even calls out the climate hoax for the bullshit it is, and the previous leftard prime minister has happily voted for the Green New Deal.

That filthy "socialist" government knew how to keep budget under control (mostly) but the one today can't and doesn't even plan to do it. Isn't it supposed to be the opposite way around with "socialist governments" vs non-soc one? I think it does.
As to the Fuhrer, he does not but even if he did, I think You are smart enough to have noticed the man says one thing one day and the opposite the next day while already planning to change to a third "narrative" later in the week. It is amazing but he is "better" at that even among most other politicians. Politicians, a class with mandatory abilities: "I change my opinion now!" and "Saying the truth is stupid". So don't get too attached. Next week we might be hearing from fuhrer T. that climate change is the biggest challenge ever before Poland.

 

[duskvile]

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When you stare at the abyss, the abyss stares back at you.

 

[S.H.O.D.A.N.]

I don't think Gerralt character was that important.

Narratively, his erratic blend of cynical disinterest and principled heroics made him a great RPG protagonist, where being a white knight in one quest and leaving people to be eaten alive by monsters in another were both perfectly in line with his characterisation.

Ciri as written by CDPR comes across as an activist type personality. Not unusual for young people with no actual life experience, but also not conductive to nuanced writing, or being the protagonist of a game where choices presumably exist and should, in theory, matter.

 

[mondblut]

I know a guy who works as a driver and plays train games to relax.
And another guy who works on trains and plays truck simulator games to relax.

Maybe they should swap places?

 

[mondblut]

Yeah I was always hoping they would go with dimension hopping as a theme for the game.

Fallout was originally envisioned as a time/dimension travel game. Stalker was originally envisioned as a dimension travel game. Guess why both dropped the idea?

 

[Storyfag]

3 We got far left socialists government, with a lot of incompetent woman at position of power, including such Orwellian ministries as Ministry of equity or Ministry of climate.
4 We are snowballing into becoming communist country again.
5 Presidential elections are coming and if commie government candidate win, we are fucked.

You mean: we got rid of a filthy socialist government. Our current Tuskfuhrer even calls out the climate hoax for the bullshit it is, and the previous leftard prime minister has happily voted for the Green New Deal.

That filthy "socialist" government knew how to keep budget under control (mostly)

By hiding expenses away in unaccountable schemes like PFR and BGK.

As to the Fuhrer, he does not

Yes, he does. Over the course of weeks now. I have posted about it.

I think You are smart enough to have noticed the man says one thing one day and the opposite the next day while already planning to change to a third "narrative" later in the week.

That is an apt description. Of the previous gov't. Need I remind you that they, shouting about muh nation and God and White race, handed out hundreds of thousands visas to pakis and pajeets who didn't really qualify for that visa program?

Next week we might be hearing from fuhrer T. that climate change is the biggest challenge ever before Poland.

I shall concede if it happens. For now, Der Tuskfuhrer is legit.

 

[Zeriel]

Euro-chuds really misusing the term "DEI" lately, I've noticed.

Geralt's story was over and choosing Ciri as the protagonist of a rebooted Witcher series was a pretty intuitive direction to go that many people expected. That's not DEI. You can be upset that she isn't hawt enough in the trailer, but that's not DEI either.

DEI would be if they gave Geralt a black best friend all of a sudden, or race-swapped Dandelion, or something like that.

Nah, it's not intuitive at all. Intuitive would have been allowing open chargen and making the protagonist a player-generated Witcher with you being able to choose a school, and there being C&C based on that. You know, RPG stuff. This is in fact what the fanbase used to think they were going to do for W4. Not waifu baiting with girl power thrown in to get the progressives.

That being said, maybe that is still what they are doing and Ciri is just playing the same role she did in Witcher 3 as a forced meme character with superpowers the plot revolves around. I haven't read any info on what has been released so far, so if Ciri IS explicitly the main character I'd say it's more evidence CDPR has completely lost the plot and is retarded.

 

[Storyfag]

Ciri as written by CDPR comes across as an activist type personality. Not unusual for young people with no actual life experience, but also not conductive to nuanced writing, or being the protagonist of a game where choices presumably exist and should, in theory, matter.

Plus, y'know, she should act like a person who DOES have some actual life experience. She had plenty.

 

[Zeriel]

Men have completely failed to even defend themselves in the culture wars, let alone strike back.

They have. Repeatedly. Many recent games heavily infested by political nonsense have flopped hard.

People push back against slop all the time, they just happen to end up censored if they do it on any of the more mainstream sites.

There's open ridicule all over the internet despite that censorship because for as much as the developers may wish otherwise, they cannot actually censor everybody fast enough.

Will there be hopeless individuals who mindlessly buy whatever slop is pushed out and presented to them? Sure - but they lack the numbers to fulfill investor goals.

They also just lost an election based on this stuff. The reporting was there before the election. "Men are evil and bad and might vote wrong because they are ignorant!" Men voted wrong. What is the response? To keep badgering and insulting them and doubling down. This seems to be how it's going to be for the next 10 years. Elite media production increasingly and comedically divorced from the population it purports to have as a customer base, creating flops that the press only reports on "mysteriously" failing despite having all the Right Ideas.

There used to be this theory if they just lost hard enough and with their own "side" they would wise up and change, but no, we can see now there is no other play book. All they can do is double down because in their worldview their ideology is equivelant to cosmic good vs. evil, and admitting you were wrong would be giving in to evil. The minorities they did everything in the name of turning against them and voting against them isn't enough to change anything. Losing 99.9% of your budget for a game isn't enough to make the company admit the real cause of said failure, the press won't even say why it failed, etc. There's no apparent escape from this except the total collapse of civilization, since they hold all the institutions and refuse to change. Okay, maybe I'm exaggerating there, but it's not going to be a quick turn-around like with the Christian moral majority of the 90s. They will resist to the very end.

 

[BruceVC]

I don't think Gerralt character was that important.

Narratively, his erratic blend of cynical disinterest and principled heroics made him a great RPG protagonist, where being a white knight in one quest and leaving people to be eaten alive by monsters in another were both perfectly in line with his characterisation.

Ciri as written by CDPR comes across as an activist type personality. Not unusual for young people with no actual life experience, but also not conductive to nuanced writing, or being the protagonist of a game where choices presumably exist and should, in theory, matter.

I really like Geralt and I am disappointed he wont be the main character in W4. The Witcher games are about the interaction and journey of the main character and its not true that the first 3 games weren't inextricably about him

Why wouldn't you like Geralt, he saves people terrorized by monsters, he has a deep kindness and empathy for those that suffer and that includes certain monsters , he rejects elitism and privilege, he has a belief in justice, he is authentic, he builds and maintains lifelong friendships, like with Jaskier, and helps those friends and he demonstrates love for people in his life like Ciri, Trish and Yennefer despite everything he has gone through around being a Witcher

He has more humanity than those he often works for

Saying all that I dont want to be negative about W4, Im going to give Ciri a chance

But I will miss my Geralt Vampiress threesomes

 

[Storyfag]

Trish

BruceVC, we have talked about it, and you promised not to misspel Triss' name again.

 

[Dark Souls II]

Poland is and has always been a mistake. Hopefully it's next on Russia's menu and Germany helps out for old time's sake.

Polacks are cockroaches. You could nuke the whole country and a week later it would still be crawling with millions of pshemeks and pyotreks ready to do any job for 1/3 of a Westerner's pay, as long as it's enough to afford gas station hot dogs and a netflix subscription. There is no other race as resilient as a polack.

 

[Lagole Gon]

I know a guy who works as a driver and plays train games to relax.
And another guy who works on trains and plays truck simulator games to relax.

Maybe they should swap places?

And live a life without dreams?

 

[S.H.O.D.A.N.]

Plus, y'know, she should act like a person who DOES have some actual life experience. She had plenty.

She had trauma. Trauma is not life experience, regardless of what modern writing would like us to believe.

 

[Commissar Draco]

Yes woke world salad and perm ban go f.... yourself paying customers and fans the Daddy Black rock will bail our ass out when the game will flop again, it was totally predictable when they went full fascist after Witcher 2, Witcher 3, Cyberpunk and removal of playing cards from the remaster of Twicher 1.

Read last book tomes without any great enthusiasm the last finale was decent only once and it was bad in parts Sapko shuld stop to write now, but not as bad as the monstrosity this game will be, well you sell your gaming studio to foreign capital you got colonized by Buthurtistan new Big Brother who is total woke and DEI driven.