The Witcher The Witcher IV - The Ciri Saga Begins

[Vincente]

Protagonist in 2015: Max from Life is Strange

Protagonist in 2025: Doomguy and Bigby Wolf

Gaming is healing????!111oneone111

 

[Mauman]

Protagonist in 2025: Doomguy and Bigby Wolf

They are going fuck over Bigby so hard. They have to since Fables is an inherently conservative media.

edit - unless of course the Fables author has control...which I hope he does as I'd rather not see Bigby or Fables in general be "re-imagined for modern audiences".

 

[Skinwalker]

Witcher 3 criticized religions adequately, like the greedy satyr, who was masquerading as their god, kept demanding more food from pisspoor starving peasants.

That was literally a vile necro parody of the Christian God. Witcher 3 does what all shitlibs do: criticize ONE specific religion. Rabidly.

Everything else is ok, tho. Believe in ANYTHING but Christianity, goyim.

 

[Naraya]

I'm really out of the loop and it feels good.

From all these faces, I only recognize Batman, the AC protagonist, Geralt and Ciri.

 

[Skinwalker]

I'm really out of the loop and it feels good.

From all these faces, I only recognize Batman, the AC protagonist, Geralt and Ciri.

You recognized the AssCreed Syndie Cat guy, but failed to recognize the Bloodborne protagonist and Solid Snake? You should feel bad.

Also, I don't recognize a single face out of the bottom row. I wouldn't recognize fat ugly Ciri either, if it wasn't for the RPG Codex.

Thanks, Godex.

 

[Vincente]

That was literally a vile necro parody of the Christian God.

Do you also think the Udalryk questline was a parody of Christianity? Or the Morkvarg quest where you learn he actually didn't get cursed by Freya, thus proving her worshippers literally died for nothing?

 

[Skinwalker]

That was literally a vile necro parody of the Christian God.

Do you also think the Udalryk questline was a parody of Christianity? Or the Morkvarg quest where you learn he actually didn't get cursed by Freya, thus proving her worshippers literally died for nothing?

That has nothing to do with the point. The greedy satyr posing as a "god" is deliberately written as an obvious parody of the Old Testament worship of YHWH, I guess it completely went over your head with its tiny little brain.

 

[Vincente]

That was literally a vile necro parody of the Christian God.

Do you also think the Udalryk questline was a parody of Christianity? Or the Morkvarg quest where you learn he actually didn't get cursed by Freya, thus proving her worshippers literally died for nothing?

That has nothing to do with the point. The greedy satyr posing as a "god" is deliberately written as an obvious parody of the Old Testament worship of YHWH, I guess it completely went over your head with its tiny little brain.

You said the game criticized only one religion, I'm asking if you think the Udalryk and Morkvarg questlines criticized paganism or not.

 

[Skinwalker]

That was literally a vile necro parody of the Christian God.

Do you also think the Udalryk questline was a parody of Christianity? Or the Morkvarg quest where you learn he actually didn't get cursed by Freya, thus proving her worshippers literally died for nothing?

That has nothing to do with the point. The greedy satyr posing as a "god" is deliberately written as an obvious parody of the Old Testament worship of YHWH, I guess it completely went over your head with its tiny little brain.

You said the game criticized only one religion, I'm asking if you think the Udalryk and Morkvarg questlines criticized paganism or not.

No, not at all. The cult of Freya is actually portrayed sympathetically in the werewolf quest, when they are shown to be understandably irate over Yennefer destroying their sacred garden with her literal vile necro (that even made Geralt uncomfortable). The self-harming jarl isn't connected to any particular god, it's just a generic delusion/deception. No attempt to make any moral point is made in either of those cases, it's in the category of "shit happens". Overall, paganism is portrayed fairly sympathetically, although the main underlying worldview is "muh power of secular humanism".

Compare and contrast with the transparent disparagement of the Old Testament religion in the satyr quest, and the RCC with everything connected to the Eternal Fire.

 

[Naraya]

You recognized the AssCreed Syndie Cat guy, but failed to recognize the Bloodborne protagonist and Solid Snake? You should feel bad.

Yeah, I knew I've seen the guy before but couldn't put my finger as to where. This is probably because I've never owned a console in my life.

 

[Ryzer]

No, not at all. The cult of Freya is actually portrayed sympathetically in the werewolf quest, when they are shown to be understandably irate over Yennefer destroying their sacred garden with her literal vile necro (that even made Geralt uncomfortable).

Yennefer does that not because she enjoys necromancy but because she loves Geralt and Ciri so intensively, she would do anything for them. Triss would never do such a thing for him.

 

[Hace El Oso]

Yennefer does that not because she enjoys necromancy but because she loves Geralt and Ciri so intensively, she would do anything for them. Triss would never do such a thing for him.

Hmm, but she does it deliberately refusing to tell him the truth, without soliciting his consent or asking for forgiveness or even understanding.

Even more importantly, she’s a colossal Bitch on Wheels all the time.

 

[Lyric Suite]

Witcher 3 criticized religions adequately

The Fedora part is critisizing religions at all.

Geralt in the books appear to be one cynical bastard so far. I mean, so is everybody else around him but he appears to go one step further than the rest.

That said, there's clear biases. Geralt doesn't believe in the existence of gods, but he is still friends with that Melitele priestess, which is a partial concession to paganism. There's also a bit of class bias. Nobles are degenerate and vile, but lower class people (the ones that aren't utter morons) are frank and down to earth, basically honest crooks as opposed to the hypocritical princes etc.

Now there's nothing new about this mindset, one can find it all the way back to Frank Herbert and there's echoes of this even in the writings of Robert Howard (and in the world of literature i guess Hemingway?), but i wonder if this series is what actually inspired Martin?

 

[Skinwalker]

Geralt doesn't believe in the existence of gods, but he is still friends with that Melitele priestess, which is a partial concession to paganism.

Told you.

 

[Lyric Suite]

I guess fatalist would be a better word than nihilist to describe Geralt now that i think of it.

In either case, the author's atheism is showing.

 

[Harthwain]

I'm really out of the loop and it feels good.

From all these faces, I only recognize Batman, the AC protagonist, Geralt and Ciri.

I think it's Batman, Snake (Metal Gear), Assassin's Creed, Bloodborne(?), Geralt. Ciri looks a lot like that female viking from Valhalla and very unlike herself from previous games. No idea who the rest are. But I guess this is what happens when you don't use staple characters for your game (Batman, Geralt and Snake are pretty much like a brand by now).

 

[Semiurge]

I'm sick of her already just by reading all that.

So far Geralt on the stories appear to be more of an expression of a particular point of view. It's less about what he wants as a individual and more about what he is and what his circumstances are but i guess we'll see if that changes later on.

She's not Geralt.

She is taking his place.

The age of white men is OVER

Prepare for having dialogue options to tell random barkeeps and dirt farmers that they don't get to tell you who you are, RAWWRR *Neo-tribal feministically tinged folk music plays while Ciri makes yet another angry fierce female warrior face at the camera*

You've angered the mama-lynx who takes the black in the back.

 

[Ryzer]

Hmm, but she does it deliberately refusing to tell him the truth, without soliciting his consent or asking for forgiveness or even understanding.

Even more importantly, she’s a colossal Bitch on Wheels all the time.

She takes responsability and doesn't hesitate to put herself at risk of dying multiple times for Ciri and Geralt. Not only that but she saved Geralt twice (once by resurrecting him after getting stabbed in the back by a pitchfork and the last time by teleporting out of danger after he killed Eredin), single-handedly found the way to treat Avallac'h curse to find Ciri and helped Geralt to find Ciri which in turn, satisfied Emhyr enough from torturing him for failing his task.

 

[Vincente]

Geralt in the books appear to be one cynical bastard so far. I mean, so is everybody else around him but he appears to go one step further than the rest.

I don't think some people here realize that CDPR games have always been fanfiction of Sapkowski's work, and you shouldn't compare books to games since they're vastly different from one another.

 

[Harthwain]

I don't think some people here realize that CDPR games have always been fanfiction of Sapkowski's work, and you shouldn't compare books to games since they're vastly different from one another.

Even if they were fanfiction, they should still remain within the bounds of that fiction. Ironically enough, one of the reasons why Geralt's reactions were somewhat limited (by CDPR's own admission) was because they wanted to keep him in character, instead of being just a skin for the player to wear in-game. That's why Geralt doesn't have the option to be a murderhobo, like it is possible in most other cRPGs.

 

[Semiurge]

I just saw a youtube thumbnail of a video on a movie called "Cleaner", being "Die Hard with a girl boss", and it dawned on me what's wrong with Witcher 4's trailer and with every girlboss trailer, and why these guys are doomed to lose.

It's biology. Both men and women like looking at men with furled brows, the image makes him look confident. Yet nobody likes the look of a woman with furled brows and bared teeth. This just makes you want to leave her alone.

The face of an angry woman may still be more welcoming to women when they seek suitable avatars and role models for themselves. The expression may make them seem more competent because of what it signals. An avatar that exists only to please may not be what they're looking for.

Only men can be Witchers

(((They))). Do. Not. Care. At. All.

You'll have female witchers, black elves, gay angels, tranny kings/queens, hindu Thor, Chinese Julius Ceasar, bipoc king Arthur, Goddess-Empress of Womankind, etc., stepping on your face, forever. Only psychopathic villains will be cishet White men, everyone else will be somewhere high up on the oppression/intersectionality matrix.

Or, just don't consoom woke goyslop. You can do nothing, and win.

Who wants you to eat ze bugs, breed with moolies, renounce your Christian faith, castrate your sons, give up red meat and your freedom of speech? Yeah, this is not done for love. It's humiliation. The nazi party only postponed the inevitable.

Protagonist in 2025: Doomguy and Bigby Wolf

They are going fuck over Bigby so hard. They have to since Fables is an inherently conservative media.

edit - unless of course the Fables author has control...which I hope he does as I'd rather not see Bigby or Fables in general be "re-imagined for modern audiences".

I've read the Fables comics a long time ago, a mediocre series if there ever was one. It's been 10+ years since, but I wager the early part of the series could be called woke even by today's standards. It seemed like a safe, inoffensive mainstream comic for the most part.

 

[cvv]

 

[MasPingon]

I guess fatalist would be a better word than nihilist to describe Geralt now that i think of it.

In either case, the author's atheism is showing.

You are trying to draw conclusions too soon, after reading just couple of short stories. Geralt is an expert in lying to himself. In his essense he is idealist, but he is knowing to well he is not in a position to be one. He also wouldn't want to be associated with those pitiful, preaching fucks. This causes contradictions in his behavior. I would say he is spiritual, he would never exclude the existence of metaphysics. With time I am more and more certain Geralt is Sapkowski's self insert, at least partial.

 

[ShiningSoldier]

It doesn't matter, who is the protagonist of a game. It's possible to make the game good with any protagonist you can imagine. For example, in Arcanum it was possible to play as a zoophilic dw*rf and literally fuck a sheep, and nobody complained.
The new Witcher will be shit not because of a protagonist, but because it's a modern "RPG" with all this shitty stuff: quest markers everywhere, large arrow that shows where to go, endless boring cutscenes with anime-style fights, instant teleportation to any point of a map, and, of course, the famous braindead gameplay from the third game: "go to some place, turn on the "witcher's sight", follow the red footsteps, kill boring monster".

 

[racofer]

Is that.... Bruce Wayne?