Wizardry The Wizardry Series Thread

[Lacrymas]

A question for the Wizardry veterans - is it worth playing through Wizardry 6 before playing 7?

 

[Matador]

I like Wizardry 6 a lot. The Superfamicom version plays very well and looks fantastic. There is a translation patch into English.

The only think I disliked is the caves. Most annoying dungeon ever.

 

[Lacrymas]

I have the GOG version ;p

 

[octavius]

A question for the Wizardry veterans - is it worth playing through Wizardry 6 before playing 7?

It's even worth more than playing Wiz 7.

 

[Grauken]

I like Wizardry 6 a lot. The Superfamicom version plays very well and looks fantastic. There is a translation patch into English.

The only think I disliked is the caves. Most annoying dungeon ever.

If you play the SNES version, you can't import characters and items into Wiz7, and some items you can import you can only get in W6, not in W7

 

[Matador]

You can use the Wiz 7 editor to "import" Wiz6 characters.

At Least I would try the SNES version with emulator SNES9X and decide if you like it more than GOG version.

 

[Grauken]

You can use the Wiz 7 editor to "import" Wiz6 characters.

In that case you don't need to play W6 to get the stuff, but for me that would count as cheating and taking away from playing the games the proper way

 

[Matador]

You can use the Wiz 7 editor to "import" Wiz6 characters.

In that case you don't need to play W6 to get the stuff, but for me that would count as cheating and taking away from playing the games the proper way

You play Wiz 6 because is s great game, not to "get stuff".

I don't care if it's cheating or not. I like more the SNES version and was informing Lacrymas about it if he is interested. I had a lot of fun playing it, and I'm sure I'm not the only one.

 

[Grampy_Bone]

A question for the Wizardry veterans - is it worth playing through Wizardry 6 before playing 7?

In that case you don't need to play W6 to get the stuff, but for me that would count as cheating and taking away from playing the games the proper way

The only reason I would play Wiz 6 is to import the items. This is the "proper" way to play it because that's how the game is designed. They didn't put the import mode into the game by accident.

In any case the itemization in Wiz 7 sucks balls so I wouldn't feel bad about it. All you can really get is a good warrior weapon, a lance for a valkyrie, an awesome samurai katana, and a great ranger bow. If you don't care about those specific items, skip it.

 

[Grauken]

Wiz 6 is a great game, equal to W7. Doesn't change much whether you play the SNES or the DOS version, although I prefer the DOS version for both the importing and the graphics, EGA is just better at evoking a decreptic castle than the enhanced visuals of the SNES version, but its mostly a matter of taste, the differences between both versions are minuscule (W6 SNES has automap, although for the DOS version there are external solutions for that).

 

[Strange Fellow]

Wiz 6 is a great game, equal to W7. Doesn't change much whether you play the SNES or the DOS version, although I prefer the DOS version for both the importing and the graphics, EGA is just better at evoking a decreptic castle than the enhanced visuals of the SNES version, but its mostly a matter of taste, the differences between both versions are minuscule (W6 SNES has automap, although for the DOS version there are external solutions for that).

There's also the fact that there's no parser when talking to NPCs.

 

[Lady_Error]

In any case the itemization in Wiz 7 sucks balls so I wouldn't feel bad about it.

I have no idea how anyone can claim something like that.

All you can really get is a good warrior weapon, a lance for a valkyrie, an awesome samurai katana, and a great ranger bow. If you don't care about those specific items, skip it.

You forgot a certain ring. And the fact that depending on the different endings in W6, you start out in different areas in W7.

 

[Jack Of Owls]

Wiz 6 is a great game, equal to W7. Doesn't change much whether you play the SNES or the DOS version, although I prefer the DOS version for both the importing and the graphics, EGA is just better at evoking a decreptic castle than the enhanced visuals of the SNES version, but its mostly a matter of taste, the differences between both versions are minuscule (W6 SNES has automap, although for the DOS version there are external solutions for that).

I believe the DOS EGA version has problems with sound effects distortion using the regular Dosbox builds and default audio config settings. IIRC I had to use a special build of DOS-BOX along with a specific setting in the dosbox config. GOG may have patched this issue though.

 

[MpuMngwana]

A question for the Wizardry veterans - is it worth playing through Wizardry 6 before playing 7?

Wizardry 6 is better than Wizardry 7 in every conceivable way. Wizardry 7 is probably the most overrated games on the Codex.

 

[Lady_Error]

probably the most overrated games on the Codex.

That would be Brenda Romero's Wizardry 8.

 

[octavius]

A question for the Wizardry veterans - is it worth playing through Wizardry 6 before playing 7?

Wizardry 6 is better than Wizardry 7 in every conceivable way. Wizardry 7 is probably the most overrated games on the Codex.

I wouldn't go quite that far.
Wiz 7 does have the novelty of competing factions, and much nicer graphics. And PST is far more overrated.

 

[Grauken]

Wizardry 7 is probably the most overrated games on the Codex.

Highly unlikely given how few codexers have played through it

 

[MpuMngwana]

octavius

Eh, you can find posts criticizing PST everywhere (and even its fans tend to acknowledge its fans, such as poor combat). You will be hard pressed to find any negative criticism of Wizardry 7.

Wizardry 7 is full of mechanics that sound cool on paper (competing parties, cartography) but in practice leave a lot to be desired. It is very pleasant to the eye, I’ll give you that.

 

[Lady_Error]

Considering that W6 had no mapping, its inclusion in W7 was already a plus. And no other RPG aside from W7 and Grimoire has competing parties, which does make it a unique feature that adds quite a bit to the richness of that world. Several very well done factions and a complete world are two other obvious improvements over W6.

 

[Jason Liang]

wiz 7 assumes you save scum.

There! I criticized wiz 7

 

[Jack Of Owls]

I attempted to play Wiz 7 years ago but was immediately turned off by some SF chick on a hover mobile in the first few seconds of the game. But then I played M&M VI a few years later and that kind of silly fantasy/sci-fi mix shit didn't bother me. I should try Wiz bang 7 again someday but I probably won't.

 

[Grampy_Bone]

I have no idea how anyone can claim something like that.

How could you not? You pretty much use starting junk all the way until the tomb, where you have to kill the superbosses just to have a chance of getting anything half as good as what you find in Wiz 6.

 

[Lady_Error]

I have no idea how anyone can claim something like that.

How could you not? You pretty much use starting junk all the way until the tomb, where you have to kill the superbosses just to have a chance of getting anything half as good as what you find in Wiz 6.

W7 has all the weapons and armor that W6 has, plus new ones such as the scifi stuff. Here, compare for yourself:

https://www.tk421.net/wizardry/wiz6items.shtml
https://www.tk421.net/wizardry/wiz7items.shtml

And then tell us which items W6 supposedly has that W7 doesn't.

 

[Reality]

I feel like setting the text delay in 0 in Wiz 7 doesn't reach the speed that it does in 6 (and 1-5). Always annoyed me.

 

[Lacrymas]

Sooo, I have a few more questions. The first concerns the automap mod for Wiz 6, how exactly do you configure everything to look like this guy's set up? It's very good. Does this game have music at all? There are some kind of (annoying) ambient sounds and ouches, but is that it? And my third question is more of a request for general advice really. What classes are viable or must-haves, any particularities I should know, etc. Thanks.