Wizardry The Wizardry Series Thread

[Grauken]

Wiz8 also has simply unparalleled party building. Calling it an incompetent random imitation of earlier wizardries is a dumbfuck-tier misrepresentation of the game.

Unparalleled dumbing down and destroying multiclassing is your dream about party building? OK. Wiz 8 is a clear decline in party building compare to any entry on the series.

I like a lot Wizardry 6-8. But the popamolery shown here by the cultist fans are making me question them.

Wizardry never had multiclassing

 

[Darth Roxor]

Wiz8 also has simply unparalleled party building. Calling it an incompetent random imitation of earlier wizardries is a dumbfuck-tier misrepresentation of the game.

mondblut said that Wizardry 7 is the best wizardry.

Actually the best Wizardry is Grimoire

 

[cvv]

Wiz8 also has simply unparalleled party building. Calling it an incompetent random imitation of earlier wizardries is a dumbfuck-tier misrepresentation of the game.

mondblut said that Wizardry 7 is the best wizardry.

Actually the best Wizardry is Grimoire

If a group of ten experienced developer enthusiasts gassed Cleve in his bunker, took the game and worked on it for 2 years it would be the best RPG ever made.

 

[Matador]

Wiz8 also has simply unparalleled party building. Calling it an incompetent random imitation of earlier wizardries is a dumbfuck-tier misrepresentation of the game.

Unparalleled dumbing down and destroying multiclassing is your dream about party building? OK. Wiz 8 is a clear decline in party building compare to any entry on the series.

I like a lot Wizardry 6-8. But the popamolery shown here by the cultist fans are making me question them.

Wizardry never had multiclassing

Bend the language all you can, call it what you want to win the argument with talmudic tactics. What is having a Samurai with cleric spells, clerics with critical strikes and thief skills, or ninjas with mage spells,etc?

 

[d1r]

Wiz8 also has simply unparalleled party building. Calling it an incompetent random imitation of earlier wizardries is a dumbfuck-tier misrepresentation of the game.

Unparalleled dumbing down and destroying multiclassing is your dream about party building? OK. Wiz 8 is a clear decline in party building compare to any entry on the series.

I like a lot Wizardry 6-8. But the popamolery shown here by the cultist fans are making me question them.

Wizardry never had multiclassing

Bend the language all you can, call it what you want to win the argument with talmudic tactics. What is having a Samurai with cleric spells, clerics with critical strikes and thief skills, or ninjas with mage spells,etc?

Diversity!

 

[Grauken]

Wiz8 also has simply unparalleled party building. Calling it an incompetent random imitation of earlier wizardries is a dumbfuck-tier misrepresentation of the game.

Unparalleled dumbing down and destroying multiclassing is your dream about party building? OK. Wiz 8 is a clear decline in party building compare to any entry on the series.

I like a lot Wizardry 6-8. But the popamolery shown here by the cultist fans are making me question them.

Wizardry never had multiclassing

Bend the language all you can, call it what you want to win the argument with talmudic tactics. What is having a Samurai with cleric spells, clerics with critical strikes and thief skills, or ninjas with mage spells,etc?

It's called class-changing you fucker and present in Wizardry 1-3 and 5-8. Are you even trying?

 

[Matador]

It's called dclass-changing you fucker and present in Wizardry 1-3 and 5-8

Congratulations, now you have shown you are a smart boy correcting me for saying multiclass instead of class changing,rather than contributing with something sustantial to the discussion.

 

[Grauken]

It's called dclass-changing you fucker and present in Wizardry 1-3 and 5-8

Congratulations, now you have shown you are a smart boy correcting me for saying multiclass instead of class changing, instead of contributing with something sustantial to the discussion.

And you're fucking dumb by claiming Wiz 8 didn't have it and now try to deflect your utter failure to hoist a coherent argument. Try again

 

[Matador]

It's called dclass-changing you fucker and present in Wizardry 1-3 and 5-8

Congratulations, now you have shown you are a smart boy correcting me for saying multiclass instead of class changing, instead of contributing with something sustantial to the discussion.

And you're fucking dumb by claiming Wiz 8 didn't have it and now try to deflect your utter failure to hoist a coherent argument. Try again

I did know it has. But I have never bothered to use it because is useless and badly implemented. It's even possible there are posts by me talking or asking about it years ago. Not that I'm going to bother to check.

The expression "destroy multiclassing" was figurative not explicit. But you are too autist or retarded to detect it.

 

[Grauken]

It's called dclass-changing you fucker and present in Wizardry 1-3 and 5-8

Congratulations, now you have shown you are a smart boy correcting me for saying multiclass instead of class changing, instead of contributing with something sustantial to the discussion.

And you're fucking dumb by claiming Wiz 8 didn't have it and now try to deflect your utter failure to hoist a coherent argument. Try again

I did now it has. But I have never bothered to use it because is useless and badly implemented. It's even possible there are posts by me talking or asking about it years ago. Not that I'm going to bother to check.

The expression "destroy multiclassing" was figurative not explicit. But you are too autist or retarded to detect it.

Wasn't that hard to admit you're lying cunt now, was it

 

[Matador]

It's called dclass-changing you fucker and present in Wizardry 1-3 and 5-8

Congratulations, now you have shown you are a smart boy correcting me for saying multiclass instead of class changing, instead of contributing with something sustantial to the discussion.

And you're fucking dumb by claiming Wiz 8 didn't have it and now try to deflect your utter failure to hoist a coherent argument. Try again

I did now it has. But I have never bothered to use it because is useless and badly implemented. It's even possible there are posts by me talking or asking about it years ago. Not that I'm going to bother to check.

The expression "destroy multiclassing" was figurative not explicit. But you are too autist or retarded to detect it.

Wasn't that hard to admit you're lying cunt now, was it

You are projecting, man. I'm not a liar. Stop embarrassing yourself.

 

[Strange Fellow]

Answer this then: how many class changes must we do per character to make the Wiz 6+7 system great and not broken, how few are too few and how many are too many, o supreme arbiter of wisdom?

 

[Matador]

Answer this then: how many class changes must we do per character to make the Wiz 6+7 system great and not broken, how few are too few and how many are too many, o supreme arbiter of wisdom?

Do I have to have the perfect answer to that in order to be right about Wizardry 8 "effectively" destroying the franchise feature or (for autists) implementing it in a manner that makes it unusable?

 

[Strange Fellow]

You have to have an answer in order to back up your claim that this particular "franchise feature" is what makes the Wiz6/7 system great, yes.

 

[Matador]

Wasn't that hard to admit you're lying cunt now, was it

You called me a liar. Here is a post by me talking about multiclassing on Wiz8 on another thread last sunday.

https://rpgcodex.net/forums/index.php?threads/wizardry-8-first-time-playing.133152/#post-6714608

Casters: Focus on utility, buffing/debuffing and crowd control, not damage.

Sadly Multiclassing is very badly implemented in this game, unlike all previous previous Wizardries. I would not touch it.

Now go the fuck off.

 

[Grauken]

Wasn't that hard to admit you're lying cunt now, was it

You called me a liar. Here is a post by me talking about multiclassing on Wiz8 on another thread last sunday.

https://rpgcodex.net/forums/index.php?threads/wizardry-8-first-time-playing.133152/#post-6714608

Casters: Focus on utility, buffing/debuffing and crowd control, not damage.

Sadly Multiclassing is very badly implemented in this game, unlike all previous previous Wizardries. I would not touch it.

Now go the fuck off.

Why would you think quoting yourself would give any weight to your argument? You clearly have no clue about Wizardry and all your posts claiming as such will be disregarded in the future.

Have a nice day

 

[Matador]

You have to have an answer in order to back up your claim that this particular "franchise feature" is what makes the Wiz6/7 system great, yes.

I think the multiclass system in Wiz6/7 works if you are not obsessed and willing to break the system extremely, spending a lot of time farming for it, and having a lot of metaknowledge about the game.

If you go to the game to have fun and build characters with some flexibility and power. Could be better implemented? Of course, I'm aware that it's flawed and breakable. I don't think that makes it bad or unfun.

Almost all games systems are exploitable and that doesn't make them bad games.

 

[Matador]

Why would you think quoting yourself would give any weight to your argument? You clearly have no clue about Wizardry and all your posts claiming as such will be disregarded in the future.

Have a nice day

I have proved I haven't lied. And I have shown people that you are a Snake trying to defame me calling me a liar, because you can't endure disagreement.

If you think my posts are worthless and my knowledge is bad is OK. I don't care about your opinion. For sure there are a lot of people that know more about Wizardry than me. News at eleven.

 

[mondblut]

No matter what you pick at the start, you then proceed to ride the class switch rollercoaster until you have six fightermagethieves with 100 in all the relevant skills, and finally settle for a class that has access to whatever OP gear you have at hand.

And there is no greater joy to experience in life.

You can play those games ten times and you'll end up with the same characters. You can play Wiz8 ten times and you'll always end up with something different.

It is not the destination that matters. It's the journey.

To end up with something different, you'll have to trudge through Wiz8 ten times, right. In Wizardry 7, you can have 10 different parties all through the course of a single playthrough.

 

[mondblut]

make the Wiz 6+7 system great and not broken

 

[AArmanFV]

Since the beginning of times with greenberg and woodhead the class change system is there to be used, to make character progression more than just level up to lvl 255, you can abuse it or not, but was one of the things that make Wizardry and sequels the most prestigious and sophisticated blobber to this day.

 

[4249]

These little dickwads are cockblocking me inside one one of the houses in Trynton. I've tried waiting, pushing them, sleeping, talking to them. Nothing works. They just waddle around in that single spot in the doorway and I cant walk past them

Anyone happen to know a way to get past them? I'd rather not lose hours of progress because something as stupid as this shit.

 

[Darth Roxor]

In my experience it helps to either keep sleeping, or fiddle with combat initiation

Also maybe try luring them with the glowlamp?

 

[4249]

I was able to get past them by simultaneously running into the and spamming rest and interrupting it. It shifted me a little bit forward every time and then a big jump past them.

 

[Darth Canoli]

It usually happens next to the bridge you have to fix and sleeping once (no interruptions) is usually enough.

Try saving, sleep, reload, sleep, perhaps multiple sleep sessions (without interruptions) and if it doesn't work, the combat trick Roxor talked about.
If all fails, maybe x-ray to see if they're monsters around and try initiating combat when they're really close and throw area spells that might reach them.