Wizardry The Wizardry Series Thread

[octavius]

Yes, that and a certain groups of Priest made gong.

 

[Suissant]

Anyone having trouble downloading the Mad God's Cosmic Forge Editor? I tried downloading it because I noticed my version is from 2013 and apparently it has been updated a lot since then. The link provided on his site is a google drive one that asks me for a login. I created a google account just to download it and then google says my access is denied and I should send an email to the guy asking for permission. Ugh.

 

[KeighnMcDeath]

What link? This page? https://mad-god.webs.com/downloads.htm
https://mad-god.webs.com/downloads.htm
I just copied the link and repasted in browser then hit download. It was like 3mb right? I haven't used it so dunno if it works. Then again, I have a googledrive account.

 

[Suissant]

What link? This page? https://mad-god.webs.com/downloads.htm
I just copied the link and repasted in browser then hit download. It was like 3mb right? I haven't used it so dunno if it works. Then again, I have a googledrive account.

Yeah, this link. I tried it on both Firefox and Chrome. It asks for a google account login (I didn't have a google account, but I created one). When I log with my account it says that I don't have permission to download the file and gives me an option to send an email to the owner asking for permission.

 

[Darth Canoli]

Yeah, this link. I tried it on both Firefox and Chrome. It asks for a google account login (I didn't have a google account, but I created one). When I log with my account it says that I don't have permission to download the file and gives me an option to send an email to the owner asking for permission.

There's an an outdated version on Snafaru's website here.

I just checked and have the same issue with the google link.

 

[Suissant]

Yeah, this link. I tried it on both Firefox and Chrome. It asks for a google account login (I didn't have a google account, but I created one). When I log with my account it says that I don't have permission to download the file and gives me an option to send an email to the owner asking for permission.

There's an an outdated version on Snafaru's website here.

I just checked and have the same issue with the google link.

Yeah. Someone should contact him and say that his links are fubar. It's a really utile utility

 

[rusty_shackleford]

how do i play wiz6

 

[octavius]

by ear

 

[Morpheus Kitami]

Which versions of Wizardry 1-4 don't require one to deal with all the floppy handling and aren't on consoles? I never gave this series a shot because the act of juggling so many floppies seemed to be incredibly confusing to me.

 

[samuraigaiden]

DOS version from The Ultimate Wizardry Archives

 

[d1r]

Which versions of Wizardry 1-4 don't require one to deal with all the floppy handling and aren't on consoles? I never gave this series a shot because the act of juggling so many floppies seemed to be incredibly confusing to me.

Is there any reason why you don't want to play the SNES versions (translated, better art style and music) of these games?

 

[Disciple]

Wizardry IV wasn't ported to any Nintendo console, was it? It can only be played via some DOS or Apple ][ emulator.

 

[Butter]

Wizardry IV was apparently ported to the Playstation as part of a Wizardry collection.

 

[Strange Fellow]

Which versions of Wizardry 1-4 don't require one to deal with all the floppy handling and aren't on consoles? I never gave this series a shot because the act of juggling so many floppies seemed to be incredibly confusing to me.

Is there any reason why you don't want to play the SNES versions (translated, better art style and music) of these games?

Keyboard interface.

 

[zwanzig_zwoelf]

Which versions of Wizardry 1-4 don't require one to deal with all the floppy handling and aren't on consoles? I never gave this series a shot because the act of juggling so many floppies seemed to be incredibly confusing to me.

Apple ][ version doesn't force you to do disk swapping all the time. I don't even remember if I had to deal with it at all.

DOS version from The Ultimate Wizardry Archives

IIRC DOS versions of Wizardry are notoriously buggy.

 

[samuraigaiden]

Which versions of Wizardry 1-4 don't require one to deal with all the floppy handling and aren't on consoles? I never gave this series a shot because the act of juggling so many floppies seemed to be incredibly confusing to me.

Is there any reason why you don't want to play the SNES versions (translated, better art style and music) of these games?

Typing is fun!

 

[Matador]

Which versions of Wizardry 1-4 don't require one to deal with all the floppy handling and aren't on consoles? I never gave this series a shot because the act of juggling so many floppies seemed to be incredibly confusing to me.

Is there any reason why you don't want to play the SNES versions (translated, better art style and music) of these games?

Keyboard interface.

I always play PS1 and SNES versions with keyboard.

 

[Casual Hero]

I do prefer the way that the DOS version controls. Having every action bound to a single button on a keyboard is more comfortable than using a cursor to select things from a menu. I find the SNES very to be very "button-mashy".
That being said, it really isn't a HUGE deal. The DOS version has a nice interface, but it isn't really worth playing because of the messed up progression. If going for a version with a keyboard, the best port is probably on the PC-98.

 

[NerevarineKing]

I mapped a few floors in Wizardry 1 DOS, but then switched to the PS1 version and enjoyed it a lot more.

 

[Morpheus Kitami]

Which versions of Wizardry 1-4 don't require one to deal with all the floppy handling and aren't on consoles? I never gave this series a shot because the act of juggling so many floppies seemed to be incredibly confusing to me.

Is there any reason why you don't want to play the SNES versions (translated, better art style and music) of these games?

That's a good question. I had just downloaded the PC-Engine CD version of Wizardry I & II (because they're combined like that, 3&4 are together too) and thought to myself, isn't this massively altering the experience to the point that it isn't the same game? That actually is the case with M&M 1 on NES and some Japanese PC ports of games. Also, it might not be a good idea to play a complex and hard game in a language I am still learning. (for this reason its probably not a good idea to play the PC-98 version, sorry AdvancedHero) I do realize from the obvious perspectives that the other three console versions are very nice, but I want to see if I can rough it out from the raw perspective first.

IIRC DOS versions of Wizardry are notoriously buggy.

The DOS version has a nice interface, but it isn't really worth playing because of the messed up progression.

I would like explanations of these, even if half-remembered.
I'm also guessing that the Macintosh and C64 versions don't have any virtues then? I guess they are missing some of the series though.

 

[Sinatar]

I would like explanations of these, even if half-remembered.

The formulas for determining whether stats go up/down/stay on level up are *completely* fucked on DOS. So by the end of the game your characters will usually have stats significantly lower then what they started with, which makes class changes almost impossible.

 

[newtmonkey]

The DOS versions of W1-3 have an issue with stat loss, where any stat that is below 18 has roughly a 33% chance of dropping when you level up.

 

[zwanzig_zwoelf]

I would like explanations of these, even if half-remembered.
I'm also guessing that the Macintosh and C64 versions don't have any virtues then? I guess they are missing some of the series though.

Sinatar and newtmonkey beat me to it.

 

[newtmonkey]

As an addendum, based on playing through the DOS versions of W1-3&5, it's really only an issue with W3. You will typically roll enough bonus points during character generation in W1 to ensure that each character's important stats are 18+, so those stats are "safe".

It becomes a MAJOR issue with W3, since your stats are all capped to class minimums when you transfer your party into the game (i.e. you won't have even a single stat at 18). I found that I really needed to save scum just to ensure that my characters did not become increasingly ineffective as they leveled up.

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I did enjoy playing through the DOS versions, especially due to the quick interface (I even ended up liking the CGA graphics). However, I'd recommend just playing the PSX versions which are all very faithful ports that 1) can be set to English, 2) can be set to "classic" graphics (wireframe dungeons, PC98 style monster graphics), and 3) don't suffer from the stat loss problem.

 

[Morpheus Kitami]

As an addendum, based on playing through the DOS versions of W1-3&5, it's really only an issue with W3. You will typically roll enough bonus points during character generation in W1 to ensure that each character's important stats are 18+, so those stats are "safe".

Wizardry 5 has problems on DOS? I don't know how I could possibly sleep at night knowing that I might have to play the Amiga version of W5. The horror, the horror!

I did enjoy playing through the DOS versions, especially due to the quick interface (I even ended up liking the CGA graphics). However, I'd recommend just playing the PSX versions which are all very faithful ports that 1) can be set to English, 2) can be set to "classic" graphics (wireframe dungeons, PC98 style monster graphics), and 3) don't suffer from the stat loss problem.

You know what, you have me convinced, I'll start off with the PSX version. DOS sounds like a nightmare and I don't really care for using an Apple II emulator if I can avoid it.