Preview Torment: Tides of Numenera Beta Live on IGN

[Florian Gheorghe]

the game even looks better then Pillars.

 

[you know what time it is]

UI aside, i'm in.

 

[Excidium II]

UI is first pass (across the board), functional but stylistically unfinished.

Just like Wasteland 2 eh.

 

[Daedalos]

UI complaints... sigh, it's a beta, and it's the first pass at UI.. calm the fuck down, please.

The game looks pretty amazing, and even the writing reels me in. Some of the CYOA stuff, yeah it could be improved, but whatevs. Overall, I'm optimistic and impressed from the stream.

And rememeber, streams are never a good source of portraying a storyoriented game, it's not a good source of portraying ANYTHIG really. See for yourselves when you install it, I bet the experience will be better than some shitty stream.

 

[Excidium II]

UI complaints... sigh, it's a beta, and it's the first pass at UI.. calm the fuck down, please.

Just like Wasteland 2 eh.

 

[Daedalos]

UI is first pass (across the board), functional but stylistically unfinished.

Just like Wasteland 2 eh.

The final WL2 UI was pretty good. Not sure what you're getting at.

 

[Excidium II]

It was p. awful. And they managed to make some bits of it worse in the DC (barter ui).

 

[Jools]

• 40-50 hours or even more for people who will read everything
• More words than in LotR books

Like, that's the ideal for the average IGN user/reader/fan.

 

[Black]

It was p. awful. And they managed to make some bits of it worse in the DC (barter ui).

Why do you even try?

 

[Jools]

• More words than in LotR books

These comparisons are always unhelpful since a player will never read every word in TTON, and in any event the words are interspersed with visuals that otherwise would require explanatory text in a book.

himmy So far, it has made it past the Bowdlers!

Indeed.

Furthermore, [quantity]=/=[quality], and here I was hoping that, at least on the Codex, this would an established and commonly accepted attitude.

 

[Burning Bridges]

Looks really good to be honest, and the science fiction elements could be a fantastic twist (for example) for Asimov fans, provided they pull it off.

 

[Daedalos]

It was p. awful. And they managed to make some bits of it worse in the DC (barter ui).

I agree that the Barter UI for some reason was made worse, everything else was vastly improved. But, opinions.

 

[Starwars]

This raised my hype level quite a bit which had been falling a bit for quite a while. It looks fantastic! Only thing I'm still not crazy about it is the world, more specifically the aesthetics of it. I get that it's not supposed to be coherent but I just hope it won't fall into the trap of "hey, here's this cool thing, and here's THIS cool thing, and look over there at THAT cool thing". I hope it will all manage to come together so it just doesn't feel like a map filled with a bunch of different weird interactions.

But yeah, color me excited. Looks awesome.

 

[MicoSelva]

I do not want spoilers, so I am not wot watching this.

Not watching.

Not watching.

Not...

FUCK!

 

[Feyd Rautha]

looks awesome!

 

[likaq]

This is gonna be Hellgate: London, Daikatana, and every other shit game of the last 20 years all rolled into one.

The combat looks bad. The walls of text likewise. CYOA shit is still shit. The narrator is annoying

Another thread with magnetic properties for tryhard edgytards?

 

[J_C]

Booo, what is this generic medieval fantasy crap???!!!

 

[Septaryeth]

On a side note, anyone else noticed Ruthfuss' comic, "So Long As You Can See The Moon" is available for download?
I thought it's only going to be released right before the shipping. Or maybe I just missed the thread?

 

[Shadenuat]

I wish they used more close up perspective. That's what gave PST it's unique style compared to simplier and more abstract character models of other IE games. Every character had a completely unique visual style, you could almost see them live and breathe, like in an animated film. You could even distinguish some face features and hair. They didn't even walk or run alike.
The party portraits in TToN are also lifeless.
It seems like more effort went into designing world itself however, with all the moving parts. But characters, TToN to PoE looks like MoTB to NWN2. A bit more personality, yet still very modern 3d characters running on more old school backgrounds, aside from leaning and bit more fluidity in animations.

 

[Infinitron]

It's the PoE engine, just zoom in.

 

[Shadenuat]

It's the PoE engine, just zoom in.

How would zooming in change the fact that character models don't have lots of detail or unique movement, acting, casting, fighting or idle animations (or so I assume)? Even on 2 different companions, robes seem to flutter at a same time.
2d graphics really emphasized personality of PST characters.

 

[Infinitron]

It's the PoE engine, just zoom in.

How would zooming in change the fact that character models don't have lots of detail or unique movement, acting, casting, fighting or idle animations (or so I assume)? Even on 2 different companions, robes seem to flutter at a same time.
2d graphics really emphasized personality of PST characters.

Well, I think PoE/T:ToN characters are already more detailed than original Baldur's Gate/Icewind Dale character sprites were. I agree that the companions we've seen aren't as unique as PS:T's but that might have more to to with what they are (just standard humans) than the level of graphical detail.

 

[Athelas]

It's the PoE engine, just zoom in.

How would zooming in change the fact that character models don't have lots of detail or unique movement, acting, casting, fighting or idle animations (or so I assume)? Even on 2 different companions, robes seem to flutter at a same time.
2d graphics really emphasized personality of PST characters.

It also meant characters were very limited in what equipment they could use. Spritework like in PS:T looks great, but it also has a lot of cost-prohibitive issues.

 

[Irenaeus III]

Who cares about costs when it comes to making sprites look good? It shows where your heart is.

 

[prodigydancer]

I think Shadenuat has a point. Unique models for TNO and companions were a big deal in PS:T. They were one of the reasons why there were so few armors and weapons. The latter (the lack of equipment variety) wasn't a good thing per se but the fact that character uniqueness trumped more mundane aspects of the game was one of the defining features of PS:T.