Torment Torment: Tides of Numenera Pre-Release Thread [ALPHA RELEASED, GO TO NEW THREAD]

[Blaine]

As usual, Shrek is wrong any way you slice it; sexual orientation governs not only the act of coitus, but also romantic love. Straight men don't typically fall in love with other men, for example, unless you count rare cases such as Roguey's yearning for and complete willingness to surrender his body to Josh Sawyer.

There's a difference between platonic love, parental love, familial love, and romantic love, unless you live in West Virginia I suppose.

And now I'm discussing romantic love in a Codex thread. Thanks, Shrek.

 

[winterraptor]

The most dangerous of those people are the Bioware rejects - while they correctly understand that Bioware has left them behind with their latest offerings, they mistakenly believe that they are "hard core", keeping the tradition of cRPGs alive in the face of decline, yearning for the good old days of ME1.

While it's also partly the fault of the people that the industry made the modern games it did anyway, the industry didn't help anything raising up a generation that did not have much quality beyond the sad, depraved Ass Effect level. This monstrous recipe has multiple ingredients.

It already happens when peeps go back to play the older games, and will happen more with these new games coming out: some, at least, will see the light and convert, after playing it. It might even take a while. Maybe they ragequit, but touch it again 5 years later realizing what a dipshit they were.

Not the majority, but hey, silver lining.

 

[Tommy Wiseau]

Bah. "Teh ghey" is not the problem with romances, although it's lately become the edgy thing to say. The problem is the fanbase, that has latched onto the wish fulfilment aspect of video games to the detriment of everything else. This has several effects chief of the being the fact that even hinting at some kind of emotional bonds in game tends to open the flood gates of BSN denizens clamouring for bigger focus on their waifus. This goes in hand with a lot of marginalized groups demanding fair representation, bringing even more resources to what once was a simple game mechanic, just of of many in the bag of tricks of a successful game developer.
But the point is the romances (regardless of orientation) are not the problem - as always the people are. It's the people who have poisoned the well.

I agree with the sentiment. I don't mind romances in principle; I think they have a place in video game stories. If Torment will or won't have romances I won't care either way. I guess it's not surprising the aversion to these type of subplots that RPG fans show considering BioWare's active fanbase focuses on them to the exclusion of all else.

 

[winterraptor]

I agree with the sentiment. I don't mind romances in principle; I think they have a place in video game stories. If Torment will or won't have romances I won't care either way. I guess it's not surprising the aversion to these type of subplots that RPG fans show considering BioWare's active fanbase focuses on them to the exclusion of all else.

Yup, it's an unhealed wound thanks to them, basically.

 

[Mother Russia]

Actually, with the dough they are making they should have some voice acting, for join able NPCs at least, and main game npcs and enemies/allies. Just recall how amazing Irenicus sounded and how we all still recall him as one of the most memorable villains in rpgs, even though he was just a sprite. It was the voice acting that brought him to life.

 

[Jaesun]

Actually full VO is BAD. Because that means your dialogues are LOCKED and you cannot go back and edit them later.

That's the reason Eternity is not also having full VO (and because the cost is WAY too expensive).

 

[Brother None]

Yeah, we're not doing full VO, due to both cost and restrictive reasons. Building out WL2's reactivity on and on worked well for the team, so plan is to go back to that and make the writing huge and dense. Might add some partial VO later in the process.

 

[Akarnir]

so apparently torment will have full orchestra?

 

[Jaesun]

Yes.

 

[Akarnir]

Yes.

Is that the first one of the kickstarters to have one?
Does PE have one? I don't really remember.

 

[Jaesun]

Banner Saga also had a full orchestra stretch goal, and made it. That's one I can think of off hand.

 

[FeelTheRads]

Weren't there some adventure games that wasted money on useless stuff like this as well? But if I understood correctly not all pieces will be recorded with the orchestra?

 

[Infinitron]

I suspect that renting the services of an orchestra isn't as expensive as we might imagine.

 

[Aeschylus]

I suspect that renting the services of an orchestra isn't as expensive as we might imagine.

As someone from a family of (classical) musicians, I can basically confirm this. Outside of the really big/famous symphonies they are paid peanuts.

 

[Brzęczyszczykiewicz]

Yes.

Is that the first one of the kickstarters to have one?
Does PE have one? I don't really remember.

PE and PA will have orchestra.

 

[Jaesun]

Why would they even need a full orchestra? This is beautiful.

This is not just something we're slapping on because it seems cool, Mark wanted a full orchestra. I am curious to hear what he'll do with it! Obviously he won't start making every piece bombastic and crazy, but he should be able to do more than he can now.

 

[Brotherman Bill]

As usual, Shrek is wrong any way you slice it; sexual orientation governs not only the act of coitus, but also romantic love. Straight men don't typically fall in love with other men, for example, unless you count rare cases such as Roguey's yearning for and complete willingness to surrender his body to Josh Sawyer.

Roguey is a woman, I think

 

[evdk]

Roguey is Roguey, nothing more needs to be said.

 

[Jaesun]

2.1 Mil Achieved.



Onward to ZIETS!

 

[Kirtai]

But, if nothing else, this game does have a female PC option. I think I'll stick with my assumption.

I think you mean it has a male PC option. It seems the original default was female.

 

[Brother None]

But, if nothing else, this game does have a female PC option. I think I'll stick with my assumption.

I think you mean it has a male PC option. It seems the original default was female.

Haha, I should really clarify I was kidding around with that. You guys can go back to speculating on what we would've done if we'd only been able to do one gender.

 

[Kz3r0]

But, if nothing else, this game does have a female PC option. I think I'll stick with my assumption.

I think you mean it has a male PC option. It seems the original default was female.

This, both the first and last castoffs are female, rejoice Codex, missed a bullet there.

 

[tuluse]

But, if nothing else, this game does have a female PC option. I think I'll stick with my assumption.

I think you mean it has a male PC option. It seems the original default was female.

Haha, I should really clarify I was kidding around with that. You guys can go back to speculating on what we would've done if we'd only been able to do one gender.

It was a tranny wasn't it?

 

[FeelTheRads]

Stop joking and take care of your shit, LB is stealing your moneyz.

 

[Sergiu64]

Shameless promotion of my stretch-goal idea: https://torment.uservoice.com/forum...ore-revealing-loading-screens-or-even-better-