Torment Torment: Tides of Numenera Thread

[Darth Roxor]

i thought the sex scientist was funny

 

[alkeides 2.0]

i thought the sex scientist was funny

Yeah I thought he was funny too, but mostly from the companion reactions.

 

[Moth]

Not here on the Codex as much, but on Reddit, 4Chan, and the Inxile forums in particular, there is an astounding amount of ignorance regarding how the combat system was decided. It was in a poll on the website they made for "community design input", and it barely won against RTWP. And it was set in stone that it would be turn based from then on out. I actually voted for RTWP, because what I saw of their TB combat in Wasteland 2 (I don't think it was released in full yet) didn't impress me, and I didn't want them to fuck up T:TON the same way.

This game is flawed as fuck, but most of the reasons people are giving in steam reviews are absolutely awful.

 

[Infinitron]

Too bad they shut down the Torment Uservoice site where that vote took place. It could serve as evidence.

Here's the Codex newspost: http://www.rpgcodex.net/article.php?id=9248

 

[Kem0sabe]

They would have chosen TB anyways, because console release was always in the plan for Fargo, and you don't release an isometric rtwp game on consoles, it's unmanageable without making it full blow action.

 

[Quillon]

Why's the male character's portrait looks like a girl? & has shit on her his head... and why so blurry....

might be already discussed so 1 x old

 

[Moth]

Or. Or maybe. Just maybe, RTWP could have cockblocked the console product scheme in the first place.

 

[FeelTheRads]

So I finished this after ~17.5 hours

Another freakishly fast reader!

It's quite impressive how this went from Fargo's ~70 hours to McComb's ~40 to the actual ~20.

If Sagus is really about half of the game, then that's about how much is going to take me too. Currently the game time on the last save is about 11 hours and I really did everything I could find in Sagus.

 

[Lacrymas]

We already discussed the switch to TB somewhere around here. They said that the voting was basically a sham, with them already having decided to be TB. This, inquisitive reader, might come across as self-defeating or pointless, but I theorize that they made the poll to see whether RTwP is HEAVILY favored over TB. In the end they were pretty much tied, so they decided to go TB to release on consoles.

 

[Moth]

I've completed all of the quests in Sagus just a few minutes ago, and I am also a fast reader. Yet it took me twenty two hours. I'm not sure if my brain is degrading from the adjective porn I'm slodging through, or if a lot of you are missing the hidden questlines and whatnot.

 

[alkeides 2.0]

So I finished this after ~17.5 hours

Another freakishly fast reader!

It's quite impressive how this went from Fargo's ~70 hours to McComb's ~40 to the actual ~20.

If Sagus is really about half of the game, then that's about how much is going to take me too. Currently the game time on the last save is about 11 hours and I really did everything I could find in Sagus.

I finished in 15+ hours of gameplay not counting reloads which brings it up to 24+. I realise I missed out a lot of content though. I didn't realise the bronze sphere could be used to switch companions and I missed a lot of content in the Valley my first playthrough. I didn't replay all the way but just the valley added about 3 hours so I would say around 20 hours is about right on average if you solve all the sidequests.

 

[HeatEXTEND]

Steam reviews "mostly positive"

scroll down, only negative reviews

 

[Infinitron]

Steam reviews "mostly positive"

scroll down, only negative reviews

Negative reviews are a minority but get massively upvoted. Pretty common phenomenon.

 

[Bleed the Man]

Regarding length, it took me 33 hours to complete the game, doing everything I could, according to the game saves. 17 were in Sagus, at the 22h mark I was about to open the mere and trigger the last crisis before reaching the bloom, and around the 31 hour mark I was about to start the endgame.

So 17 hours for Sagus Cliffs, 5 for the Valley of Dead Heroes, 8 or 9 for the Bloom and 2 for the endgame.

 

[Fairfax]

We already discussed the switch to TB somewhere around here. They said that the voting was basically a sham, with them already having decided to be TB. This, inquisitive reader, might come across as self-defeating or pointless, but I theorize that they made the poll to see whether RTwP is HEAVILY favored over TB. In the end they were pretty much tied, so they decided to go TB to release on consoles.

They also went from "combat will be chosen by backers!" to "this is just a head count, we'll do what we want", and changed the poll multiple times during the vote because RTwP was winning. But the biggest problem was having the vote 7 months after the KS campaign ended. The vast majority of backers don't keep up with the countless updates KS games have between the campaign and release. A lot of players had no idea it was going to be turn-based, hence the complaints in forums and user reviews.

 

[Kem0sabe]

They probably came up with the poll after realizing that rtwp wouldnt work on consoles, and someone said "let's make a show of it and get some community engagement to boot. I'm a fucking genius, Thomas... Come here and suck daddy off"

 

[IHaveHugeNick]

Steam reviews for T:TON will give cancer to your cancer, avoid that place if you value your health. It's either people with 10 minutes of playtime complaining the game lacks content, novel-sized rant about how amazing PS:T combat was, people being surprised that it's not a hardcore combat game, and that's the sane ones. The amount of retarded shit just blows my mind.

It's currently sitting at 78%, which about how I'd rate it as well, 7,8/10, maybe a weak 8. But the reasons people are giving are just batshit insane, makes me think most backers didn't really know what they were buying.

 

[Lurker King]

which about how I'd rate it as well, 7,8/10, maybe a weak 8.

 

[Toxic Masculinity]

I just found the issue an amusing one since the reviews did not call out the quality other than to say that it was in the wrong kind of Spanish.

Gamereactor spain definetly did.

Además, parece haber sido traducido por dos personas totalmente diferentes. Algunos párrafos son preciosos, coherentes, con giros neutros que conservan ese toque literario del original, pero de pronto se cruza un galimatías sin sentido, sintaxis extrañas, frases confusas que hacen que las conversaciones no tengan sentido. En algunos casos podría ser excusable, porque la cantidad de personajes que hablan de forma críptica o que están locos es muy alta en un juego como Torment Tides of Numenera, pero aquí hablamos directamente de fallos a la altura de Google Translate que dificultan diálogos ya de por sí densos y que requieren un esfuerzo de comprensión lectora.

https://www.gamereactor.es/analisis/378823/Torment+Tides+of+Numenera/?page=2

I also commented about its poor quality in my review, even if I didn't gave much details (again, I changed languages pretty early on)

While the dislike for having to endure a latin american spanish translation is real and inevitable among spaniards (look for Simpsons clips in latin american and catillian and read the comments if you want to go down the rabbit hole), I would prefer if it didn't distract from the most pressing issue here, which is that the quality of the translation itself needs to be addressed. And looking at the InXile forums, seems like most of them need to be addressed.

Puto gachupín de mierda.

 

[Spockrock]

What does Rhin do if you keep her? I pushed her through the Time Gate ASAP, seemed like a joke character.

She has the best ending of all characters, if you do things right. It's worth not getting spoiled about it. I thought she was the standout character in what is a very middling cast.

you can tell she's a special companion right off the bat, even her class implies so. as soon as I got her I went and freed her from the slaver, and haven't played the game since then, but I did get a Tide out of it, so she's already the most useful of all 5 companions I've seen so far

 

[Infinitron]

It's interesting that during the beta people were praising Avellone's Erritis and criticizing Rothfuss' Rhin, and now after release that seems to have reversed itself to an extent.

 

[Moth]

Rhin is also the most powerful of characters. She has an ability that prevents the next Cipher you use from expiring. With it, you can use her as a high damage Cipher cannon. Most potent when combined with the Rings of Entanglement.

 

[Fairfax]

It's interesting that during the beta people were praising Avellone's Erritis and criticizing Rothfuss' Rhin, and now after release that seems to have reversed itself to an extent.

Still a lot of people praising Erritis, and I don't remember a significant number of users (or a single one, actually) criticizing Rhin anywhere. I did say she could be annoying, but that's only because of the little girl thing and some of the lines I read in the files.

 

[IHaveHugeNick]

It's interesting that during the beta people were praising Avellone's Erritis and criticizing Rothfuss' Rhin, and now after release that seems to have reversed itself to an extent.

The thing with Rhin is you can tell she was made by someone outside of gaming industry. No professional gaming writer would ever come up with character like this, I'll be keeping her around just to see how it pans out. It's definitely a controversial idea though, I wonder how Rothuss got them on board with this.

 

[Infinitron]

It's interesting that during the beta people were praising Avellone's Erritis and criticizing Rothfuss' Rhin, and now after release that seems to have reversed itself to an extent.

Still a lot of people praising Erritis, and I don't remember a significant number of users (or a single one, actually) criticizing Rhin anywhere. I did say she could be annoying, but that's only because of the little girl thing and some of the lines I read in the files.

Fair enough, in general not many people played the beta so small sample size