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[User0001]

 

[laclongquan]

We need MOAR BUTTONZ!!!

 

[Erikkolai]

Powergaming/min-maxing in a single player RPG (like BG/NWN/PKM) is equivalent to playing it on easy difficulty.

 

[Semiurge]

Soros is Sauron.

 

[Cryomancer]

Katanas(swords in general but most specific Katanas) are the most overrated weapon of the human history. Dane Axe, the most iconic weapon for the Viking age? No love on pop culture. Pikes? Axes? No love on pop culture. Longbows, which made English Lonbowman outnumbered almost 5 to 1 to defeat the French with cavalry and far better equipment on battle of Agincourt? No love on pop culture. Katanas? A weapon which stood no chance against Tanegashima? 666 anime and 666 games every single day where it is the best weapon ever, capable of deflecting nuclear missiles, excellent to hunt large animals with no problem slashing castle walls and the space time itself. And why so many people start to believe that Katanas perform IRL like on most ludicrous games?

PS : When i say swords in general, i include longsword and even rapier(which is a good dueling sword but not good battlefield weapon)

 

[Eirinjas]

Jews don't control the world, Christians do and it's all gone to shit because of the dogma of "forgiveness".

 

[Semiurge]

And why so many people start to believe that Katanas perform IRL like on most ludicrous games?

It's just these types

 

[laclongquan]

Katanas(swords in general but most specific Katanas) are the most overrated weapon of the human history. Dane Axe, the most iconic weapon for the Viking age? No love on pop culture. Pikes? Axes? No love on pop culture. Longbows, which made English Lonbowman outnumbered almost 5 to 1 to defeat the French with cavalry and far better equipment on battle of Agincourt? No love on pop culture. Katanas? A weapon which stood no chance against Tanegashima? 666 anime and 666 games every single day where it is the best weapon ever, capable of deflecting nuclear missiles, excellent to hunt large animals with no problem slashing castle walls and the space time itself. And why so many people start to believe that Katanas perform IRL like on most ludicrous games?

PS : When i say swords in general, i include longsword and even rapier(which is a good dueling sword but not good battlefield weapon)

Dawg! What do you think of the elf obsessions? It's the mutant of the longbow love.

Pike? Long Axe? That's what the love on Dynasty Warrior, Dark Soul, is all about.

 

[Polyphemus]

2) If a game's aspects are good, then they are going to be left unchanged. There is this myth in the game community that somehow a game needs to be low quality/dumbed down in order to sell. This myth is retarded and only butthurt spergs and hipster edgelords spread it. People only buy fun video games. If they are not having fun with certain game aspects, then that means they won't buy the games. Video games are entertainment, not an achievement. Video games are not a struggle to surpass or a budge of honor to collect. Video games are entertainment you spend your hard earned cash on.

The reason people don't buy Age of Decadence, is because they are not having fun with it, and that is a fact. You may argue about its individual strengths and claim how quality it is in some aspects, but at the end of the day, if people had fun playing it, they would buy it. There is no one stopping them from mass buying it and enjoying it. The only one stopping them from enjoying it is the gameplay of Age of Decadence itself. And don't tell me about marketing and "people don't know". Plenty of spergy indies have become raging successes (Minecraft anyone?) because of word of mouth. If a game is fun, it will sell. Period.

AAA companies aren't stupid. In fact, most AAA game developers are more intelligent than most members of this forum, they are well educated to get the job. They know what people like, and what not. They know what works, and what not. What a vocal minority in the Codex pretends to want does not define what a quality RPG is. The worldwide RPG audience defines what a good RPG is.

Age of Decadence wasn't popular because it wasn't designed to be. There is a market for difficult, hardcore RPGs, but it will never be a large market. So what? Some people like breezing through a game casually and some people enjoy a challenge. You're talking about what "people like" when different people are looking for very different things. What do you mean, people aren't buying Age of Decadence because they aren't having fun with it? People have to buy games in order to play them.....and it isn't true that the game hasn't spread by word of mouth. It was recommended to me by a friend outside of this site. But worth of mouth only gets you so far when you're aiming for a niche audience from the outset. Minecraft is an absurd comparison, because it's a sandbox multiplayer game even a child can play and enjoy. It scratches a totally different itch.

As for a vocal minority not defining quality, it's natural that people who are specifically interested in RPGs have different taste than a general audience. People who are very into music gravitate to different musicians than a layman would. I don't really see the point of your argument.

 

[Cryomancer]

Only to trigger the few JRPG fans here. Imagine D&D using a JRPG logic

- DM : Player, here is your character sheet
- Player : But Master, i have already made my character sheet. I wanna make a half elf warlock, chaotic neutral who got expelled from magic academy due racism against elves in Thay and he found a powerful ice demon and pledged apprenticeship in exch...
-DM : No, you will gonna play with this androgynous 13 years old fighter, and you can only chose oversized unpractical sword as specialization, your alignment is lawful good and that is it.
- Player : But i like to play as a magic caster. Can i at least use javelins? A pike? Or a longbow? I actually enjoy a lot longbows IRL and practice archery.
- DM : No, you will play with this character sheet and will follow exactly this strict path, with no checks and zero mechanical and narrative character decision making. You will only do decisions on combat and the combat mechanics will have no relation to the world lore!!!
- Player : fine, i will search another group, if you don't wanna me in your group, you could have said earlier

 

[Ol' Willy]

JRPG fans suffer from a severe case of retardation, there's no need to make fun out of poor bastards. Life was harsh to them already.

 

[SkinnJakka]

Baldur's Gate 2 was the Uncharted of its time, in the way that it's just a travel between pretty set piece to set piece, thus no real sense of exploration and freedom like in the superior original.

 

[TemplarGR]

Age of Decadence wasn't popular because it wasn't designed to be. There is a market for difficult, hardcore RPGs, but it will never be a large market. So what? Some people like breezing through a game casually and some people enjoy a challenge. You're talking about what "people like" when different people are looking for very different things. What do you mean, people aren't buying Age of Decadence because they aren't having fun with it? People have to buy games in order to play them.....and it isn't true that the game hasn't spread by word of mouth. It was recommended to me by a friend outside of this site. But worth of mouth only gets you so far when you're aiming for a niche audience from the outset. Minecraft is an absurd comparison, because it's a sandbox multiplayer game even a child can play and enjoy. It scratches a totally different itch.

As for a vocal minority not defining quality, it's natural that people who are specifically interested in RPGs have different taste than a general audience. People who are very into music gravitate to different musicians than a layman would. I don't really see the point of your argument.

What a load of bullshit. All the things you say operate on the assumption that Age of Decadence needs some kind of training or mastery before you play it, which is bollocks. The same kids who play Minecraft can also play Age of Decadence, it is just that they don't want to because they don't find it fun. Minecraft is not a simple game, it needs a lot of guides and videos on youtube to actually know what you are doing, i would dare to say that it needs more dedication to actually master than Age of Decadence.

Yes, Age of Decadence is indeed niche, because only a tiny subset of gamers care so much about C&C that they don't really care about any other aspect of a video game. It is not because they are superior gamers with more advanced taste or anything, it is just that they value a small part of what makes a video game great, above anything else.

 

[Ol' Willy]

Age of Decadence needs some kind of training or mastery before you play it

All I can do is to point you at numerous posts and reviews talking about "unplayable builds", "unpassable situations" and "AoD requires metagaming".

Yes, AoD is perfectly playable and beatable blind, but we live in a times when retards successfully survive through adolescence and though there are games designed for such people, like Skyrimjob or Fagout 4, they still decide to pick up AoD for some reason.

 

[Häyhä]

- Player : But Master, i have already made my character sheet. I wanna make a half elf warlock, chaotic neutral who got expelled from magic academy due racism against elves in Thay and he found a powerful ice demon and pledged apprenticeship in exch...

A 13-year-old child soldier would actually be more original and interesting character concept than this fag-like snowflake cliche.

 

[Cryomancer]

A 13-year-old child soldier would actually be more original and interesting character concept than this fag-like snowflake cliche.

Not when the 13 yo is

Luso from FF

Anyway, having to deal with a powerful chaotic demon patron to learn magic is a huge story telling hock and how being a half elf in thay impacting the character also interesting. And androgynous teenagers with swords original? Are you joking? Name one RPG with fix protagonist where the MC needs to deal with a chaotic evil master to learn his magic and was heavily discriminated by being a half elf. Just one. You can look into anime too if you like. I doubt that you would find a single one character like this """chichê""" character.

Yes, AoD is perfectly playable and beatable blind, but we live in a times when retards successfully survive through adolescence and though there are games designed for such people, like Skyrimjob or Fagout 4, they still decide to pick up AoD for some reason.

LOL. This games should include a story mode difficulty called "game's journalist" difficulty.

 

[urmom]

Trigger the codex with a statement.

Chris Avellone is not gay. (Sorry, boys.)

 

[Thac0]

Jews don't control the world, Christians do and it's all gone to shit because of the dogma of "forgiveness".

Have you read Nietzsche? He thinks that Christianity is a slave religion infused by the Jews with weakness to bring down Rome. He thinks its a weapon made to bring down civilisation.
Loads of bull imo but I think you might like him.

 

[Anonona]

Anyway, having to deal with a powerful chaotic demon patron to learn magic is a huge story telling hock and how being a half elf in thay impacting the character also interesting. And androgynous teenagers with swords original? Are you joking? Name one RPG with fix protagonist where the MC needs to deal with a chaotic evil master to learn his magic and was heavily discriminated by being a half elf. Just one. You can look into anime too if you like. I doubt that you would find a single one character like this """chichê""" character.

Spoiler

My name is Naruto Uzumaki Viktor the Half-elf. I study in the Shinobi Magic academy. I'm discriminated by others because of having a demon fox inside of me being a proud half-elf minority (you fucking shitlord). I have to deal with a chaotic evil demon fox chaotic evil Overlord if a hope to master the art of the shinobi magic one day. But nothing will get in the way of becoming the best Hokage Sorcerer Warlock, you better believe it!

 

[Cryomancer]

Anyway, having to deal with a powerful chaotic demon patron to learn magic is a huge story telling hock and how being a half elf in thay impacting the character also interesting. And androgynous teenagers with swords original? Are you joking? Name one RPG with fix protagonist where the MC needs to deal with a chaotic evil master to learn his magic and was heavily discriminated by being a half elf. Just one. You can look into anime too if you like. I doubt that you would find a single one character like this """chichê""" character.

Spoiler

My name is Naruto Uzumaki Viktor the Half-elf. I study in the Shinobi Magic academy. I'm discriminated by others because of having a demon fox inside of me being a proud half-elf minority (you fucking shitlord). I have to deal with a chaotic evil demon fox chaotic evil Overlord if a hope to master the art of the shinobi magic one day. But nothing will get in the way of becoming the best Hokage Sorcerer Warlock, you better believe it!

Funny, but i never said that the warlock wanna to be the best warlock. He could just be a guy who hate Thay and wanna revenge against Thay. He also got expelled, so he doesn't study on the academy. And the patron is not something inside him and far more hard to deal. But was only to give a idea of the first character who comes to my mind. Anyway, please. Name one, just one anime protagonist which is a warlock in the sense that he needs to serve a greater power to learn magic. Just one.

And was just one character that i would be interested to play. There are far more. Generi-kuns like asta in other hands from black clover exists on billions.

 

[TemplarGR]

All I can do is to point you at numerous posts and reviews talking about "unplayable builds", "unpassable situations" and "AoD requires metagaming".

Yes, AoD is perfectly playable and beatable blind, but we live in a times when retards successfully survive through adolescence and though there are games designed for such people, like Skyrimjob or Fagout 4, they still decide to pick up AoD for some reason.

You are so retarded i am surprised you even breathe without supervision.

Metagaming is not a particular game skill/training. Studying the metagame of a particular game does not take training outside that game.

To illustrate how retarded you are with a proper example: If a doctor needs to learn how to treat covid-19, this does not mean he needs to go to medical school again. It just means he needs to study the particulars around the specific covid-19 disease. His fundamentals are the same for all diseases in his field. He does "metagame" for new diseases like covid-19, he studies the "new meta", but his fundamental training is the same for all diseases, he doesn't need to actually become a doctor again in order to treat covid-19.

In the same vain, gamers don't need extra "training" or "skill" to play AoD, more than they need to play Minecraft. AoD is easy to control, you just create and avatar and click a little around the map. Not hard. It doesn't take extra skill to beat it, or extra training. Yes meta-gaming, studying guides and watching videos, can help you fail less, actually scratch that, unless you are literally watching another youtuber play it and copy-paste his gameplay, you are wasting your time, and if you do that you are still wasting your time, which is why AoD is garbage, but i digress.

The point is, it doesn't take a particular skill or real world personality attribute (well except perhaps autism) to play AoD. Your "gamer school" (the equivalent of medical school in the above example), is the same. You don't need to know anything more. Yes learning the particulars of the game may lead to better success, but the same applies to Minecraft and other games as well, even in Skyrim and Fallout 4, it is not particular to AoD. And it is the same as "studying covid-19" in the above example.

There are tons of games that need tons of guides and meta-gaming to play succesfully. AoD is not unique in that. Yet many of those games are extremely succesful, while AoD is a flop. So that tells you everything you need to know, it is not that it is hard, it is that it is boring and not fun.

 

[Ol' Willy]

Not when the 13 yo is

Luso from FF

That's the biggest dildo I ever saw, even on the internet.

 

[Anonona]

But was only to give a idea of the first character who comes to my mind. Anyway, please. Name one, just one anime protagonist which is a warlock in the sense that he needs to serve a greater power to learn magic. Just one.

You could say the entire Shin Megamei Tensei saga of jrpgs is like this in a way, but specifically Nocturne. You gain your power by the intervention of a powerful entity (which is not hard to guess who but I'll avoid to mention any name to avoid spoilers). While the pact is forced on you, wherever you decide to follow through or not depends on the player. Of course, if the player does proceed with the pact and follows the mysterious entity orders, they end up gaining immeasurable power. Among the powers you gain are being able to summon demons and force them to do your biding, incredible strength and resilience and, of course, powerful magic. The game has multiple endings and the hardest ending, where your character ends up the most powerful, requires the player to follow the entity's orders. Is a JRPG with a fix protagonist. This is just one example, but if we talk just about receiving power, not just magic, then:

Spoiler

Nier, Breath of Fire Dragon's Quarter, Oswald from Odin Sphere, Valkyrie Profile: Covenant of the Plume (notice the name, Covenant), FF XIII and many more

I mean, "deal with the devil" kind of plots aren't that rare. Is hard to find something if you go into specifics, but that happens with every character really.

PS: Bonus points because the mysterious entity of Shin Megami Tensei Nocture is of a "Chaotic" alignment.

 

[Cryomancer]

Nocturne. You gain your power by the intervention of a powerful entity (which is not hard to guess who but I'll avoid to mention any name to avoid spoilers). While the pact is forced on you, wherever you decide to follow through or not depends on the player. Of course, if the player does proceed with the pact and follows the mysterious entity orders, they end up gaining immeasurable power.

Nice answer. If SMT was available for PC, i would try.

Anyway, only a detail about warlocks. Their patron aren't the source of their magic. They learn like a master/apprentice relationship. They learn from their patron.

Anyway, Warlocks(and rogues) tends to have a poor reputation among the playerbase of 5e due the high amount of chaotic neutral/chaotic evil walrocks on 5e who mistreats their own party using 'i an just playing my character" as an excuse. There are long years since i played a TT game, but i never mistreated my own party. And generally plays with chaotic characters.

 

[Anonona]

If SMT was available for PC, i would try.

Perhaps one day, they ported Persona 4, which was a surprise, maybe in the future they do the same for the old SMT. A curios tidbit you may find interesting, many protagonist of SMT use guns, either coupled with swords, or just guns. The exception is the first SMT, which only uses swords, and Nocturne's main character, who only uses magic and his raw strength (also he is the only main character that can use magic because as a consequence of the "pact"). Furthermore "Gun" is count as a type of attack separated from regular melee in some of the games. Shin Megami Tensei: Strange Journey, which is a kind of a classic dungeon crawler, has as a protagonist a space marine who only uses firearms to fight.