Underrail: The Incline Awakens

[ItsChon]

So I've listened to all of you faggots and decided to give Underrail a try.

I started, talked to everyone in the base, headed north and immediately get eaten by the rathounds.

Guys, should I continue?

ItsChon said

Yes. Did you research a build? Might have gimped yourself from the start if it's shit.

 

[Verylittlefishes]

So I've listened to all of you faggots and decided to give Underrail a try.

I started, talked to everyone in the base, headed north and immediately get eaten by the rathounds.

Guys, should I continue?

Yes. Did you research a build? Might have gimped yourself from the start if it's shit.

So its metagaming again(

 

[ItsChon]

So I've listened to all of you faggots and decided to give Underrail a try.

I started, talked to everyone in the base, headed north and immediately get eaten by the rathounds.

Guys, should I continue?

Yes. Did you research a build? Might have gimped yourself from the start if it's shit.

So its metagaming again(

ItsChon said:

It's not metagaming. If you put 5 points into every single skill, anyone with a brain could tell you that you have a retarded build. Perhaps you made such a mistake. In the old days, you would experiment with various different builds to see what works and what doesn't, eventually completing the game with a build that you cobbled together through the time you spent learning the game. People nowadays have no attention span, and such things are often too difficult for their pea-sized brains to handle. So, in an attempt to help you avoid all the trial and error which would likely end up with you rage quitting, I'll go over your build and give you some suggestions on what to do to ensure it's actually viable.

 

[Verylittlefishes]

So I've listened to all of you faggots and decided to give Underrail a try.

I started, talked to everyone in the base, headed north and immediately get eaten by the rathounds.

Guys, should I continue?

Yes. Did you research a build? Might have gimped yourself from the start if it's shit.

So its metagaming again(

It's not metagaming. If you put 5 points into every single skill, anyone with a brain could tell you that you have a retarded build. Perhaps you made such a mistake. In the old days, you would experiment with various different builds to see what works and what doesn't, eventually completing the game with a build that you cobbled together through the time you spent learning the game. People nowadays have no attention span, and such things are often too difficult for their pea-sized brains to handle. So, in an attempt to help you avoid all the trial and error which would likely end up with you rage quitting, I'll go over your build and give you some suggestions on what to do to ensure it's actually viable.

Fair enough.
For some reason game won't allow me to make a screenshot, so I'm writing my starting build down:

Strength 5
Dexterity 6
Agility 5
Constitution 5
Perception 7
Will 6
Intelligence 6

 

[Goromorg]

Fair enough.
For some reason game won't allow me to make a screenshot, so I'm writing my starting build down:

Strength 5
Dexterity 6
Agility 5
Constitution 5
Perception 7
Will 6
Intelligence 6

Man, take a look at the feats before distributing base stats. This game rewards specialization in one combat skill, so sniper build, for example may look like:
Strength 7
Dexterity 3
Agility 6
Constitution 4
Perception 10+
Will 3
Intelligence 7

 

[Verylittlefishes]

Fair enough.
For some reason game won't allow me to make a screenshot, so I'm writing my starting build down:

Strength 5
Dexterity 6
Agility 5
Constitution 5
Perception 7
Will 6
Intelligence 6

Man, take a look at the feats before distributing base stats. This game rewards specialization in one combat skill, so sniper build, for example may look like:
Strength 7
Dexterity 3
Agility 6
Constitution 4
Perception 10+
Will 3
Intelligence 7

So sniper doesn't need dexterity and will?

 

[Goromorg]

He doesn't, yes. Dex is useful for knives, unarmed, pistols and SMGs, will - for psykers.

 

[Verylittlefishes]

He doesn't, yes. Dex is useful for knives, unarmed, pistols and SMGs, will - for psykers.

ОК, but I anyway start with a pistol and need somehow to deal with these ratfuckers.

 

[ciox]

He doesn't, yes. Dex is useful for knives, unarmed, pistols and SMGs, will - for psykers.

ОК, but I anyway start with a pistol and need somehow to deal with these ratfuckers.

Throw flares to scare them, shoot through closed gates, kite them, the usual. They're no big deal compared to... the dreaded... the unspeakable... GREATER HOPPERS OF NO ENTRAPMENT!!!

 

[Grampy_Bone]

That's a fairly even spread of stats, it will get you through the game but won't shine impressively.

If you just pump guns, take an assault rifle, crafting skills, and heavy armor you'll be fine. You won't have a super specialized build but oh well.

Then again you're so early in the game you can easily restart. If you want light guns, take dex, if you want heavy firearms, take some str; either way dump will. Int is useful for crafting, and perception is always good for ranged. Con is also good but not really important outside of specific feats.

If you want PSI, dump str and perception, if you want melee, dump will and perception.

For the beginning area, hide behind fences and shoot the rathounds. Run back to South Rail Station med bay to heal for free if you have to. The starting gun should get you through the area. You can beat them with a knife if you run out of ammo, they are very weak. For the boss, just blow him up with a grenade, I've always found one in the opening area.

 

[Grampy_Bone]

Also are you exiting from level 1 or level 9? You want the bottom exit for the starter quest.

 

[Verylittlefishes]

Also are you exiting from level 1 or level 9? You want the bottom exit for the starter quest.

You mean, "take me to the Junkyard" exit?

 

[Grampy_Bone]

Also are you exiting from level 1 or level 9? You want the bottom exit for the starter quest.

You mean, "take me to the Junkyard" exit?

The one where you go through the big double doors, not the one with the train tracks.

 

[Verylittlefishes]

Also are you exiting from level 1 or level 9? You want the bottom exit for the starter quest.

You mean, "take me to the Junkyard" exit?

The one where you go through the big double doors, not the one with the train tracks.

okaaay, probably I just fucked up with this.

 

[Grampy_Bone]

Underrail's directions are pretty trash, even with the map.

 

[hell bovine]

Fair enough.
For some reason game won't allow me to make a screenshot, so I'm writing my starting build down:

Strength 5
Dexterity 6
Agility 5
Constitution 5
Perception 7
Will 6
Intelligence 6

Just start over, your character is the equivalent of a D&D fighter with 12 in everything. Underrail isn't that different from other cRPGS, the general rule is: max the stat that corresponds to your main offense. If you want guns, that's perception. Then check if the weapons you want to use have any stat requirements, e.g. for sniper rifles it's strength: https://www.underrail.com/wiki/index.php?title=Sniper_Rifles
Anything you don't use, you drop to 3. So what you do - after you have maxed perception that is, and have raised strength enough to use the sniper rifles you want - is decide based on the feats you want to use, since most feats have stat requirements.
You can either check the wiki, which has them nicely sorted into categories, e.g. for guns: https://www.underrail.com/wiki/index.php?title=Category:Guns_feats
Or during character creation, you can check the option "show all feats". And then use the filter option to search for whatever interests you.

edit: As for general gameplay, pay attention to enemy behaviour. You get a warning straight out of the door that rats are afraid of fire. So you can scare them with flares or molotov cocktails and then use the time when they are 'feared' to move your character to a chokepoint. Or behind a fence, it's not like rats can open doors. You can also get enemies or neutrals to move to a spot, by making noise:
https://www.underrail.com/wiki/index.php?title=Noise
Noise is also important if you want to go for silent kills, e.g. sniper rifles are loud enough to alarm nearby enemies, while crossbows are noiseless.

 

[AwesomeButton]

It loads in 5-17 seconds on my win10 boxes. Probably something to do with software configuration on the laptop, though. Poorly optimized .NET runtimes or old and bloated Windows/.NET install could conceivably bring the startup time up to half a minute, but multiple minutes seems over the top to me. As if something external is slowing down .NET process startup, like I said before.
You know how java and javascript games ship their own java runtimes and javascript engines these days? It's to control the user environment, to prevent issues like this. Not an option for .NET games, as far as I know. They'll have to do with whatever fucked-up .NET installation the end-users happen to have on their machines. And I guess XNA makes things even less predictable. Whatever happened to good old compiled software...

Your wife's scenario sounds like an old version of the game. It used to have that black rectangle screen (it was placeholder for logo, apparently) instead of loading bar and some people had issues like what you described. Updating the game should fix that.

Off the top of your head what should I uninstall/reinstall? .NET and XNA? Any particular instructions on how to make a clean uninstall of .NET, something I might be missing by just uninstalling it from the "Apps & Features"?

 

[Trashos]

okaaay, probably I just fucked up with this.

I believe in you!

Underrail takes some effort and some trial & error (as you have already been advised). However, it is totally worth it, if you don't mind that kind of challenge (and maybe even be willing to accept some help -people will help!).

 

[lukaszek]

deterministic system > RNG

 

[AwesomeButton]

Damn, it took me another evening to discover the entrance to the cave from West Storage. These new environments sure are detailed. Or maybe I was very sleepy. I only play late at night so no one can interrupt me.

The expansion is a new high so far, can't wait to discover more of the Black Sea areas and lore.

 

[Fenix]

It can take significantly longer than 5 minutes on a fragmented non-SSD, something like 1-2 minutes on a brand new SSD.

For me it takes barely a minute on HDD on notebook that's likeat least 5 years old. WTF with your hardware?

I feel like my crossbow+stealth character is just incapable of handling Expedition. I'm moving through savage territory now and getting absolutely raped. It seems like this whole part was designed not to be played by stealth characters at all. In any given area I can snipe one guy and then I have to rely on pure luck to wipe out 3 or more with a plasma grenade, otherwise I get destroyed. Starting a new character would be a huge setback since I'm well more than halfway through the game at this point.

Post your build and I could try to tell you what's wrong with it.

Burrower needles can be easily stopped by low frequency energy shield

Nope, it's medium freq shield that stops them.

For some reason game won't allow me to make a screenshot, so I'm writing my starting build down:

Core of your build - feats, they define who you are and what you can do.
Feats define stats (ability points), not the other way around, and of course there is your offensive skill.

 

[ciox]

It can take significantly longer than 5 minutes on a fragmented non-SSD, something like 1-2 minutes on a brand new SSD.

For me it takes barely a minute on HDD on notebook that's likeat least 5 years old. WTF with your hardware?

Windows 10.

 

[the mole]

Level 16, and I haven't even seen a Mk3 shock bolt yet.

Level 16 is way too low for almost any build to be raiding the Savage camps. Come back around 21-22.

So I've listened to all of you faggots and decided to give Underrail a try.

I started, talked to everyone in the base, headed north and immediately get eaten by the rathounds.

Guys, should I continue?

Grenade spam is your friend and primary weapon till level 10, or until you pick up a submachine gun

 

[Fenix]

Grenade spam is your friend and primary weapon till level 10, or until you pick up a submachine gun

Grenades is a last resort thing, use them like that or you won't learn how to fight.

 

[HeatEXTEND]

Grenade spam is your friend and primary weapon till level 10, or until you pick up a submachine gun

Grenades is a last resort thing, use them like that or you won't learn how to fight.

Grenades are part of how to fight. duh.