Underrail: The Incline Awakens

[Blaine]

Has anyone ever played this game 100% without stealth? Stealth feels mandatory in this game, it must be incredibly crippling in several ways to play without it. How does it feel to miss out on so much stuff? Must suck.

Sledgehammer or assault rifles, grenades, heavy armor, and crafting skills are all you need. Mind you, even the overall strongest builds still have their weaknesses; for heavy melee, their weakness is primarily stealth-based enemies. AR is by far the strongest and most versatile, though many people find it boring.

My spear playthrough was also done without stealth, in medium armor with a riot shield. Styg nerfed Spear Throw partway through, so that you had to min-max with specific boots to get 2-3 throws (or something like that), which annoyed me.

You don't miss out on stealth-related content because you can easily craft gear that gives you enough stealth to get by at certain points, or even do more than merely get by once you have a cloaking device. You only have to pump stealth for builds that rely on it for their combat mechanics/strategy.

 

[Stavrophore]

Problem with tincans is their complete weakness against agile enemies with bio/acid damage.

 

[Ol' Willy]

Oh God. What am I doing with my life? I have 100+ adrenal glands in my locker 'just in case.'

Depends on a build. I had zero spare adrenal glands - I converted them all into adrenaline shorts and even was short on them so I had to farm more glands.

 

[Ol' Willy]

AR is by far the strongest and most versatile, though many people find it boring.

Agree, my AR tank build offered very little choice of tactics.
Zero stealth, so it's not me who chooses when to start the fight.
Dumped DEX and AG, so I lose 95% of initiative rolls.
95% armour penalty, so I have 0 MP.

Tank damage in the first turn. Brr someone. Get free burst and 9 AP. Throw grenade/reload/aimed shot, brr more. Repeat until everyone is dead.

Problem with tincans is their complete weakness against agile enemies with bio/acid damage.

Agile enemies usually don't survive a single burst. The main weakness of tincans - doppelgangers.

 

[ciox]

Oh God. What am I doing with my life? I have 100+ adrenal glands in my locker 'just in case.'

Al Fabet is such a memorable NPC despite barely having any sort of interaction with the PC or relevance to the story. Had a good laugh when I met him, hoarders unite!

his pig leather is pretty high quality tbh

 

[Jasede]

I have defeated the Rathound King and reached level 13. Because I am ultimate scum, I have 2 Regalia because I first kidnapped the waifu, then killed him.

Throwing knives were quite useless up to this point. However, now, with Fatal Throw and (soon) Ripper and Split Spare, they are finally becoming pretty useful. At my maximal throwing skill, they even do decent damage.

Between the traps, grenades and knives, nothing has caused too much trouble. However, I expect to have big issues against robots, so I should prepare a few EMP and Plasma grenades in advance.

As you can see I haven't invested into crafting too much yet. That's about to change. It'd be nice to have some good Ninja Tabi, so I will invest in Tailoring first and work on quests and exploration as I do that. After that, probably pump Electronics and get a shield.


It occurs to me that most builds should be able to do Dominating since every build can always fall back on grenades and traps, which were my only weapons up until Core City. It would have been nice to have a 'real' weapon but it's not impossible to do without.

 

[Stavrophore]

Can't decide between infused rathound armor[10% crit chance] or infused pig leather[1 con and 89 hp]. Piggy armor gives like additional 115 health which is insane and have higher mechanical resistance. But for sniper crit chance is important so...decisions, decisions

 

[just]

Can't decide between infused rathound armor[10% crit chance] or infused pig leather[1 con and 89 hp]. Piggy armor gives like additional 115 health which is insane and have higher mechanical resistance. But for sniper crit chance is important so...decisions, decisions

fuck crits and pigs. nothing beats a nice warm bison fur coat
you'll also look fabolous

 

[jackofshadows]

It'd be nice to have some good Ninja Tabi, so I will invest in Tailoring first

There's a vendor who occasionally sells insanely good Ninja Tabi, I bought ones with 42 stealth bonus mid game and thanks to that have postponed tailoring development to the very end.

but that'd be a minor spoiler

Constantine

Can't decide between infused rathound armor[10% crit chance] or infused pig leather[1 con and 89 hp]. Piggy armor gives like additional 115 health which is insane and have higher mechanical resistance. But for sniper crit chance is important so...decisions, decisions

I have been raking my brain for quite a while before the descend, went off with rat and have had zero regrets. Offence is the best defence in this case imo. Prioritising targets, killing faster etc.

 

[toro]

... crafting ...

If you don't have high INT or at least 7 with Junkyard surprise then you will not be able to craft the best stuff in the game until the end of the game. And you will not be able to craft everything.

You can buy High quality Tabi Boots.

 

[Parabalus]

... crafting ...

If you don't have high INT or at least 7 with Junkyard surprise then you will not be able to craft the best stuff in the game until the end of the game. And you will not be able to craft everything.

There's no more INT in Junkyard surprise, you need Hypercerebrix now.

With the expansion giving you 5 levels I'd say there's more leeway than there used to be.

 

[Jasede]

... crafting ...

If you don't have high INT or at least 7 with Junkyard surprise then you will not be able to craft the best stuff in the game until the end of the game. And you will not be able to craft everything.

You can buy High quality Tabi Boots.

I have 5 Int and have calculated every single breakpoint relevant to my build taking into account the +2 Int drug and the workbenches; there is no problem. Why, if I wanted to, I could cut 3 out of every crafting skill because of the +3 skill food, but I don't know where to buy it and I also don't really feel like minmaxing absurdly. It's just dominating, I don't need to resort to cheese.

(laughs in 20 bear traps)

 

[ciox]

... crafting ...

If you don't have high INT or at least 7 with Junkyard surprise then you will not be able to craft the best stuff in the game until the end of the game. And you will not be able to craft everything.

There's no more INT in Junkyard surprise, you need Hypercerebrix now.

With the expansion giving you 5 levels I'd say there's more leeway than there used to be.

Well, apparently there's this thing now too. If the wiki is to be believed it's much faster to access than Hypercerebrix and gives 1 more INT
https://www.underrail.com/wiki/index.php?title=All-in

 

[jackofshadows]

Well, apparently there's this thing now too. If the wiki is to be believed it's much faster to access than Hypercerebrix and gives 1 more INT
https://www.underrail.com/wiki/index.php?title=All-in

I wonder what's the supposed approach: these guys were hostile when I showed up so I killed them

 

[Sheepherder]

... crafting ...

If you don't have high INT or at least 7 with Junkyard surprise then you will not be able to craft the best stuff in the game until the end of the game. And you will not be able to craft everything.

There's no more INT in Junkyard surprise, you need Hypercerebrix now.

With the expansion giving you 5 levels I'd say there's more leeway than there used to be.

Well, apparently there's this thing now too. If the wiki is to be believed it's much faster to access than Hypercerebrix and gives 1 more INT
https://www.underrail.com/wiki/index.php?title=All-in

Very rare and as far as I know, not guaranteed to be available for every character, as the selection of drinks offered in the bar is random for every char and doesn't change much between merchant resets.

 

[ciox]

... crafting ...

If you don't have high INT or at least 7 with Junkyard surprise then you will not be able to craft the best stuff in the game until the end of the game. And you will not be able to craft everything.

There's no more INT in Junkyard surprise, you need Hypercerebrix now.

With the expansion giving you 5 levels I'd say there's more leeway than there used to be.

Well, apparently there's this thing now too. If the wiki is to be believed it's much faster to access than Hypercerebrix and gives 1 more INT
https://www.underrail.com/wiki/index.php?title=All-in

Very rare and as far as I know, not guaranteed to be available for every character, as the selection of drinks offered in the bar is random for every char and doesn't change much between merchant resets.

Figures.

 

[Parabalus]

... crafting ...

If you don't have high INT or at least 7 with Junkyard surprise then you will not be able to craft the best stuff in the game until the end of the game. And you will not be able to craft everything.

There's no more INT in Junkyard surprise, you need Hypercerebrix now.

With the expansion giving you 5 levels I'd say there's more leeway than there used to be.

Well, apparently there's this thing now too. If the wiki is to be believed it's much faster to access than Hypercerebrix and gives 1 more INT
https://www.underrail.com/wiki/index.php?title=All-in

Very rare and as far as I know, not guaranteed to be available for every character, as the selection of drinks offered in the bar is random for every char and doesn't change much between merchant resets.

So on chargen you get preset drugs, but those renew every merchant reset, so you have infinite amounts of them?

Styg really has a way of coming up with bullshit.

 

[Sheepherder]

... crafting ...

If you don't have high INT or at least 7 with Junkyard surprise then you will not be able to craft the best stuff in the game until the end of the game. And you will not be able to craft everything.

There's no more INT in Junkyard surprise, you need Hypercerebrix now.

With the expansion giving you 5 levels I'd say there's more leeway than there used to be.

Well, apparently there's this thing now too. If the wiki is to be believed it's much faster to access than Hypercerebrix and gives 1 more INT
https://www.underrail.com/wiki/index.php?title=All-in

Very rare and as far as I know, not guaranteed to be available for every character, as the selection of drinks offered in the bar is random for every char and doesn't change much between merchant resets.

So on chargen you get preset drugs, but those renew every merchant reset, so you have infinite amounts of them?

Styg really has a way of coming up with bullshit.

Kinda. Some of the preset drinks are available once per character. You get a selection of drinks: some of those are available each merchant reset, others don't spawn every merchant reset and others are available once per character.
You can also find certain drinks placed in the world and as pickpocket/loot on NPCs. I don't yet know whether or not that loot is available every playthrough, as it may be randomised too.

 

[Stavrophore]

It'd be nice to have some good Ninja Tabi, so I will invest in Tailoring first

There's a vendor who occasionally sells insanely good Ninja Tabi, I bought ones with 42 stealth bonus mid game and thanks to that have postponed tailoring development to the very end.

but that'd be a minor spoiler

Constantine

Can't decide between infused rathound armor[10% crit chance] or infused pig leather[1 con and 89 hp]. Piggy armor gives like additional 115 health which is insane and have higher mechanical resistance. But for sniper crit chance is important so...decisions, decisions

I have been raking my brain for quite a while before the descend, went off with rat and have had zero regrets. Offence is the best defence in this case imo. Prioritising targets, killing faster etc.

I'm playing as Conlet(3 con) so the piggy armor gives me like 65% more health.

 

[Parabalus]

... crafting ...

If you don't have high INT or at least 7 with Junkyard surprise then you will not be able to craft the best stuff in the game until the end of the game. And you will not be able to craft everything.

There's no more INT in Junkyard surprise, you need Hypercerebrix now.

With the expansion giving you 5 levels I'd say there's more leeway than there used to be.

Well, apparently there's this thing now too. If the wiki is to be believed it's much faster to access than Hypercerebrix and gives 1 more INT
https://www.underrail.com/wiki/index.php?title=All-in

Very rare and as far as I know, not guaranteed to be available for every character, as the selection of drinks offered in the bar is random for every char and doesn't change much between merchant resets.

So on chargen you get preset drugs, but those renew every merchant reset, so you have infinite amounts of them?

Styg really has a way of coming up with bullshit.

Kinda. Some of the preset drinks are available once per character. You get a selection of drinks: some of those are available each merchant reset, others don't spawn every merchant reset and others are available once per character.
You can also find certain drinks placed in the world and as pickpocket/loot on NPCs. I don't yet know whether or not that loot is available every playthrough, as it may be randomised too.

Pretty dumb, though looking at them only the two melee ones and All-in are really good.

The latter is just insane, plenty of builds would have it on all the time, let alone for cheesing checks.

 

[toro]

... crafting ...

If you don't have high INT or at least 7 with Junkyard surprise then you will not be able to craft the best stuff in the game until the end of the game. And you will not be able to craft everything.

There's no more INT in Junkyard surprise, you need Hypercerebrix now.

With the expansion giving you 5 levels I'd say there's more leeway than there used to be.

You are correct.

... crafting ...

If you don't have high INT or at least 7 with Junkyard surprise then you will not be able to craft the best stuff in the game until the end of the game. And you will not be able to craft everything.

You can buy High quality Tabi Boots.

I have 5 Int and have calculated every single breakpoint relevant to my build taking into account the +2 Int drug and the workbenches; there is no problem. Why, if I wanted to, I could cut 3 out of every crafting skill because of the +3 skill food, but I don't know where to buy it and I also don't really feel like minmaxing absurdly. It's just dominating, I don't need to resort to cheese.

(laughs in 20 bear traps)

You played yourself

For long time I thought the same thing like you but the problem is that crafting with INT 5 is simply not satisfying.

It's better to either (1) give up on crafting or (2) go with high INT. That's all.

 

[Sheepherder]

... crafting ...

If you don't have high INT or at least 7 with Junkyard surprise then you will not be able to craft the best stuff in the game until the end of the game. And you will not be able to craft everything.

There's no more INT in Junkyard surprise, you need Hypercerebrix now.

With the expansion giving you 5 levels I'd say there's more leeway than there used to be.

Well, apparently there's this thing now too. If the wiki is to be believed it's much faster to access than Hypercerebrix and gives 1 more INT
https://www.underrail.com/wiki/index.php?title=All-in

Very rare and as far as I know, not guaranteed to be available for every character, as the selection of drinks offered in the bar is random for every char and doesn't change much between merchant resets.

So on chargen you get preset drugs, but those renew every merchant reset, so you have infinite amounts of them?

Styg really has a way of coming up with bullshit.

Kinda. Some of the preset drinks are available once per character. You get a selection of drinks: some of those are available each merchant reset, others don't spawn every merchant reset and others are available once per character.
You can also find certain drinks placed in the world and as pickpocket/loot on NPCs. I don't yet know whether or not that loot is available every playthrough, as it may be randomised too.

Pretty dumb, though looking at them only the two melee ones and All-in are really good.

The latter is just insane, plenty of builds would just have it on all the time, let alone for cheesing checks.

Crafting too, as it stacks with Hypercerebrix for a total +5 INT. Laylow is also nice for dodge/evasion builds.

 

[Stavrophore]

Slampipe looks like best one tbh. Scrapperac has daze chance which is kinda bad.

 

[Sheepherder]

Can be counteracted by Bullhead, which now protects against daze too.

 

[jackofshadows]

I'm playing as Conlet(3 con) so the piggy armor gives me like 65% more health.

Doesn't really matter how much hp do you have. At least from the end game standpoint how I see it now. For instance, instead of having ability to survive some really nasty damage income (say, faceless sniper shot) it's better to simply kill the fucker right away in your first round. From anything else there's a shield and one should kill all the threats before it expires or restealth/retreat.