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Underrail: The Incline Awakens

Yaz

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The takeaway is that the combination of Chemistry/Intelligence/level determines the cap on Biology. It goes up with character level and/or increasing the other two stats. Some character won't experience that as they will be able to increase Biology to their desired level.
 

Parabalus

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It's because of skill synergy and the way it's calculated. You might have a lot of points to dump before you see any gain.

You can use the character builder to check how many points are wasted.

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Biology goes from 86 (125) to 94 (125) before it starts increasing again. But why? I thought synergies just give a straight bonus. Higher Int + higher Chemistry = higher Biology.
So there is a barrier at 125.

The hard cap for synergy bonus is just based on your level 5*23+10=125.

Knowing the amount of skill points to put into Biology without waste (before base skill+INT defeats synergy) is worth checking the calculator for.

It's pretty retarded, but the intent is that, e.g. for PSI skills, which all have synergies with one another, to have the same max skill level without having to invest into all of them.
 
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Yaz

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I am glad that got cleared out.

I wasn't aware of the exact mechanism but knew something of that kind existed. Never experienced it myself, though, outside of skill calculator.
 

CHEMS

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I took the freighter to the Abandoned Waterway Facility in the hopes of Al Fabeting the shit out of the place and i can't even haul half of the loot without slowing down. RAY YOU BASTARD, YOU LIED TO ME
 

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So I did the Silent Island on Dominating and somehow 3 Goliath Beatles got the best of Broderick. How that happened is a mystery. Anyway does a new ferryman ever spawn in the Junkyard or am I forever going to have to walk back to SGS from there.
 

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So I did the Silent Island on Dominating and somehow 3 Goliath Beatles got the best of Broderick. How that happened is a mystery. Anyway does a new ferryman ever spawn in the Junkyard or am I forever going to have to walk back to SGS from there.

Did they bring 3 more Captain Brodericks to show him who's the real deal :D?

He's forever lost, but there are still ways to fast travel from Junkyard. Do you have any Persuasion... and happen to be playing a male character, by any chance?
 

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Hey, did Underrail receive an uptick in sales due to Sseth's review?
I imagine so. Probably generated at least 20% in sales alone(a figure entirely pulled from my ass :cool:). Most likely from the demographic that this sort of a game doesn't appeal in the first place, or else they'd have found it by themselves. I had wanted to play this game from since 2015 at least. Most people interested in recent RPGs would probably namedrop Underrail sooner or later, so in my estimation, it is nearly impossible that anybody with half an idea about RPGs wouldn't know about it in prior to watching a popular YT video years after the release date.

The main site for the game kinda died after that review, tbh. I remember a bit of frustration on the side of some of the old-guard, but in general it was good for publicity. I know some folks who play that game because of that particular review; wouldn't touch it otherwise even though they've heard about it.

But I'd say you're mostly right. The majority of his audience won't be into that kind of thing, but will follow whatever their boi tells them to.
 

CHEMS

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Silent Isle on dominating in my opinion is the hardest fight in the whole game. They cast spacial bullshit so you can't hit them, even if you do hit them you usually don't have a gun big enough to take them

I rely on caltrops and gas grenades, lots of traps too
 

oldmanpaco

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Did they bring 3 more Captain Brodericks to show him who's the real deal :D?

You know they did.

He's forever lost, but there are still ways to fast travel from Junkyard. Do you have any Persuasion... and happen to be playing a male character, by any chance?

Nice. Who do I have to make sweet tender love to?
 

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Before you could split them up effectively with Force Fields and Molotovs, now I'd just skip the area until later.

The mirror images are really annoying though, also prominent with the natives. They get like 9 evades, not much you can do except run or CC them until it runs out.
 

CHEMS

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Goliath Beetles don't mean shit to my cooked shot, they cast distortion bullshit and get blobbed anyway

Though before depot A i could never get a hold of a incendiary collector. Also, dragon poison knives are really underrated. If their carapace is open and they're not distortion bullshiting, throw one at them and enjoy them being unable to cast. My chemical build has max throwing, so i liberally spam all kinds of knives with split spare

https://stygiansoftware.com/wiki/index.php?title=Poison#Black_Dragon_Poison

You can get this poison before Depot A too! You're gonna need high biology though (65)
 

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Nice. Who do I have to make sweet tender love to?

Believe it or not - a whole military bunker full of grey-dressed dudes suspicious of women. :D

PS: Silent Isle is pretty easily completed with the Rathound Regalia as the whole beetle pain train is mostly to the west. You could choose to fight them, but it will take walling them off with uncomfortably high amounts of bear traps/caltrops and gas/burn/bomb them to no end. Better just get the Regalia right after you open the map and come back.
 

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Nice. Who do I have to make sweet tender love to?

Believe it or not - a whole military bunker full of grey-dressed dudes suspicious of women. :D

PS: Silent Isle is pretty easily completed with the Rathound Regalia as the whole beetle pain train is mostly to the west. You could choose to fight them, but it will take walling them off with uncomfortably high amounts of bear traps/caltrops and gas/burn/bomb them to no end. Better just get the Regalia right after you open the map and come back.

Oh your talking The Dude. Yeah going to need to do that early.
 

CHEMS

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My current run i did the Dudes quest only at level 26, best place to massacre them is in the kitchen, it's the perfect choke point. The Gray Army Base menu was Slavic Barbeque with Sour Sauce.
 

oldmanpaco

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My current run i did the Dudes quest only at level 26, best place to massacre them is in the kitchen, it's the perfect choke point. The Gray Army Base menu was Slavic Barbeque with Sour Sauce.
You can always go back and kill them later, right?
 

Jason Liang

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Silent Isle on dominating in my opinion is the hardest fight in the whole game. They cast spacial bullshit so you can't hit them, even if you do hit them you usually don't have a gun big enough to take them

I rely on caltrops and gas grenades, lots of traps too
silent isle on dominating i believe to be part of 'not sure if can be completed'. I mean whole thing can be considered optional, but still... Its also not just a single goliath, I assume whole thing was altered automatically since in general psi beetles without goliaths are quite rare
I just stealth past the beetle side to the chest, then head to the cave for bilocation. The dupes stop once you get bilocation. Was not too hard, even with 3 agility. PSI beetles have very poor detection. I assume that if you can't stealth, you just fight through the rathound side instead.
 

CHEMS

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The dupes stop once you get bilocation.

Didn't know that. I don't play TC builds. Speaking of bilocation, after the last update, Styg removed the spirit mush from Katya's garden. Is there a way to get one before going to DC? I always thought restricting them to DC was a poor decision, because i ideally you won't fight humans there.
 

Yaz

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Styg removed the spirit mush from Katya's garden. Is there a way to get one before going to DC?

That one is random. There's a variety of 3-4 rare shrooms, but only one will spawn for the entire playthrough.

I also like using Spirit Knives in the arena :).
 

CHEMS

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Styg removed the spirit mush from Katya's garden. Is there a way to get one before going to DC?

That one is random. There's a variety of 3-4 rare shrooms, but only one will spawn for the entire playthrough.

I also like using Spirit Knives in the arena :).

It is?? I didn't know that. I never seen spirit mushrooms at her garden after the Psi update.
 

oldmanpaco

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So playing Dom and got through Depot A and Rat King. Fucker ate like 12 mines and I still had to finish him off with a MK III grenade after barley surviving his aimed crossbow shot. Only took me three tries! :happytrollboy:

Anyway what do you all suggest next? Occulus? Rail Crossing? Foundry? Gorsky? Was thinking about doing Occulus since it takes the least amount of combat and you get access to the best vendor but my skills are not great yet so it might be wasted.

lvl 12 odddity btw.
 

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