Underrail: The Incline Awakens

[Fedora Master]

WHY ARE BANDAGES SO HEAVY DAAAAAMN

 

[Blaine]

oddity system is pure incline

It's certainly not decline, but then again, neither is the classical system of awarding numerical XP employed in countless other inclined cRPGs.

As I've said, Oddity isn't a perfect system. No system ever is, from galactic clusters right on down to miniature biospheres in a small colony of moss—and all that's in-between, including everything ever designed or conceived by human beings.

In a larger sense, in my opinion, non-level-based, point-buy character design and progression systems in the vein of GURPS are markedly superior to level-based systems overall—incidentally, GURPS was the rules system that was originally planned to be used in Fallout. But such systems are harder to implement properly in cRPGs and they don't provide a constant flow of treats as the pigeon pecks the battleship.

 

[Fedora Master]

The problem I've found is that Oddity is supposed to reward non-combat/stealth but to get every oddity you still have to sift through every nook and cranny AND often have to kill the local wildlife.

 

[Ol' Willy]

As siphoner inventory is generated only after he has spawned out of the water, you can farm all siphoner oddities right in the pools near Junkyard, in one go.

 

[normie]

oddity is the perfect system

 

[CHEMS]

Aside from Oddity being a bit slow for my taste, it's also very meta-gamey. Rummaging through every trash can and pocket, farming some enemy until you max out its oddities, even euthanizing a faction if you lack a way to obtain a major oddity—or scrounging up every single one you can find to prepare for Depot A, for example—none of these are desirable. The two major upsides of Oddity are that it compels you to take risks in order to obtain them and rewards exploration and searching nooks and crannies, but I'd be doing that anyway.

Not to mention that after lvl 25, you need 62 oddities to get to the next level.

 

[rusty_shackleford]

Aside from Oddity being a bit slow for my taste, it's also very meta-gamey. Rummaging through every trash can and pocket, farming some enemy until you max out its oddities, even euthanizing a faction if you lack a way to obtain a major oddity—or scrounging up every single one you can find to prepare for Depot A, for example—none of these are desirable. The two major upsides of Oddity are that it compels you to take risks in order to obtain them and rewards exploration and searching nooks and crannies, but I'd be doing that anyway.

Not to mention that after lvl 25, you need 62 oddities to get to the next level.

agreed, that is far too low. It should be much higher.

 

[Whisper]

How much content is added for mutant questline?
Also it fully takes place in Core city sewers or in mutant town?

 

[Twiglard]

WHY ARE BANDAGES SO HEAVY DAAAAAMN

More importantly, why do they look like toiler paper?

oddity is the perfect system

Sure, except for environmental oddities being limited. There shouldn't be a mechanism penalizing exploration.

 

[jackofshadows]

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WHY ARE BANDAGES SO HEAVY DAAAAAMN

I take it you didn't check repair kits weight yet.

 

[normie]

oddity is the perfect system

Sure, except for environmental oddities being limited. There shouldn't be a mechanism penalizing exploration.

what's the penalty?

 

[Twiglard]

what's the penalty?

The game shouldn't communicate to the player -- there's nothing anymore for you in this area, go away. This is especially visible in Lower Underrail in early-mid game where there are only few types of oddities available. All pre-placed oddities should be unlimited, unlike the enemy drops.

 

[lukaszek]

in lower passages there are no oddities afaik

 

[Twiglard]

in lower passages there are no oddities afaik

I'm talking about areas around Rail Crossing, GMS and SGS.

 

[CHEMS]

in lower passages there are no oddities afaik

Human scalp and teeth necklace.

 

[lukaszek]

in lower passages there are no oddities afaik

Human scalp and teeth necklace.

hmmm... not what i meant. What was the area called, vast caves at the bottom with nothing but crawlers, psy bugs and few bunkers? It was actually my dominating run that i explored them fully for first time and was quite disappointed

 

[Tygrende]

in lower passages there are no oddities afaik

Human scalp and teeth necklace.

hmmm... not what i meant. What was the area called, vast caves at the bottom with nothing but crawlers, psy bugs and few bunkers? It was actually my dominating run that i explored them fully for first time and was quite disappointed

You mean upper caves? There's still a few in there, but yeah not that many. Rat head amulet comes to mind first.

 

[lukaszek]

in lower passages there are no oddities afaik

Human scalp and teeth necklace.

hmmm... not what i meant. What was the area called, vast caves at the bottom with nothing but crawlers, psy bugs and few bunkers? It was actually my dominating run that i explored them fully for first time and was quite disappointed

You mean upper caves? There's still a few in there, but yeah not that many. Rat head amulet comes to mind first.

yeah that one. You can obtain full set of rat heads without going there

 

[jackofshadows]

Caves are just fucking caves. The fact that the game tells to oddity player GTFO is nice actually while classic xp virgins should struggle about whether or not they should clear it.

 

[Tygrende]

in lower passages there are no oddities afaik

Human scalp and teeth necklace.

hmmm... not what i meant. What was the area called, vast caves at the bottom with nothing but crawlers, psy bugs and few bunkers? It was actually my dominating run that i explored them fully for first time and was quite disappointed

You mean upper caves? There's still a few in there, but yeah not that many. Rat head amulet comes to mind first.

yeah that one. You can obtain full set of rat heads without going there

Only if you get lucky in the gauntlet. Otherwise you need the one from upper caves for all 5 studies.

 

[grumf]

I recently completed a 100% oddity run on Dominating (posted in the discord). I hit level 30 just before entering DC (faceless oddities at the elevator) with all base game + expedition oddities.

You have to join JKK (unless you want to rely on the RNG of the gauntlet for a train log) and the Free Drones to get them all in a single playthrough, also the two headed mutie can spawn if you revisit depot A.

 

[jackofshadows]

JKK has oddities on their base which is basically unaccessible otherwise. But what about Free Drones? The gas should dissipate after some time now, isn't it? Or it's about something else? Never joined them yet.

 

[Fedora Master]

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WHY ARE BANDAGES SO HEAVY DAAAAAMN

I take it you didn't check repair kits weight yet.

Motherf...
Okay, the weight of items is generally fucked.

 

[rusty_shackleford]

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WHY ARE BANDAGES SO HEAVY DAAAAAMN

I take it you didn't check repair kits weight yet.

Motherf...
Okay, the weight of items is generally fucked.
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it doesn't even list a unit, it could weigh 3 marshmallows.

 

[Tygrende]

JKK has oddities on their base which is basically unaccessible otherwise. But what about Free Drones? The gas should dissipate after some time now, isn't it? Or it's about something else? Never join them yet.

You can get the JKK HQ oddity without joining them, that's not the reason. All you have to do is ask all the oligarchs for a job before actually talking to their quest giver - that way you're allowed into the 1st floor of all HQs.