Underrail: The Incline Awakens

[jackofshadows]

In the world of big real mighty (dead) corpos you care about some small specific station who got blasted. Right.

 

[ciox]

Frickin' closed vault door won't open, man!

 

[jackofshadows]

Frickin' closed vault door won't open, man!

You need some Disco Elysium therapy my man (there's a quest about that).

 

[std::namespace]

So has anyone done the new DLC quest? Is it worth playing? I cant find shit online.
There was a dude on Twitch who posted Dominating runs but I cant remember his name...

 

[OSK]

So has anyone done the new DLC quest? Is it worth playing? I cant find shit online.

It doesn't come out until November 1st.

 

[CHEMS]

So has anyone done the new DLC quest? Is it worth playing? I cant find shit online.

It doesn't come out until November 1st.

 

[Stavrophore]

I love how he glosses over the fact he had a mature and robust engine but chose to do a new one instead. Who the fuck even wants Underrail in 3d? I for one isn't the least bit excited for Infusion

The new engine might possibly decrease the amount of loading zones and loading time.

 

[motherfucker]

The new engine might possibly decrease the amount of loading zones and loading time.

Right, in 3D? Very slim possibility

 

[Scrounger]

Only characters will be in 3D, background and other similar props will be prerendered as before. In technical terms it's better then working with myriad of PNGs for every armor and weapon combination...

 

[Gromoer]

I love 2D, but I am absolutely conscious about the limitations it brings along. Funnily enough, Infinity Engine’s 2D models are basically 3D models rendered as 2D sprites in different projections. Drawing all types of armor for each projection for each type of creature would have been an impossible task to accomplish.

 

[motherfucker]

Only characters will be in 3D, background and other similar props will be prerendered as before.

Oh really? Never mind then, I thought it was gonna be full 3d.

 

[agris]

Only characters will be in 3D, background and other similar props will be prerendered as before.

Oh really? Never mind then, I thought it was gonna be full 3d.

i am by no means an expert on the MonoGame framework used for Underrail, but I believe that fundamentally it was a 2D engine that did not allow the easy importing of 3D models and their associated rigging / animation. This new engine, which will feature pre-rendered backgrounds, obviates the need for sprite sheets made from exported 3D models/anims.

many codexers have ptsd from experiencing the renassiance era of crpgs transition into the cRPG “brown period” of 3D decline (h/t Brian Fargo), but there are many ways to handle and present 3D.

I expect Styg will do it in a way that eases production without fundamentally changing UR’s aesthetic sensibilities

 

[ItsChon]

Only characters will be in 3D, background and other similar props will be prerendered as before.

Oh really? Never mind then, I thought it was gonna be full 3d.

Don't mean to self-plug an old post of mine but it has some words from Styg in regards to why they decided to modify the engine.

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A preview of some of the 3D models that Styg and crew have been working on. I asked to see what the new models might look like on a background so we can get a feel for them, and he said that the backgrounds need to be brought up to par first.
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Some comments regarding Stygian's design philosophy and the engine upgrades planned for Infusion and Underrail 2 in the distant future.

I'll repost a screenshot that Styg put up on his twitter that you might not have seen yet.

I don't know about you, but this looks quite fucking good, and they still have another 3-4 years of total development, of which a good chunk of time will just be pure engine work. Stygian Software as a game development company have put out enough quality work that they deserve the benefit of the doubt, so keep that in mind that the next time you feel inclined to make a snap judgement on something.

 

[negator2vc]

I don't know about you, but this looks quite fucking good, and they still have another 3-4 years of total development, of which a good chunk of time will just be pure engine work. Stygian Software as a game development company have put out enough quality work that they deserve the benefit of the doubt, so keep that in mind that the next time you feel inclined to make a snap judgement on something.

The problem is that Stygian is an indie team. Can they waste another 3-4 of development building another engine?
The original game engine was good enough. Didn't need an "improvement".
Just needed more actual content in the form of a sequel.
This "improvement" looks like something that only the developer though it was needed or maybe the devs got bored and wanted add 3D in the engine just for "fun".

 

[Scrounger]

They are small but I don't think they're bored. I can see it that styg will have a good basis and legacy for future games with this engine, and maybe a new member or two...
Infusion will probably be smaller in scope due to time they will need to actually finish the engine but after that it should not take much time to do "Underrail 2" or any new project.
For what I know, 3D characters are not the only new aspect of this engine, there will be plenty of new stuff, especially under it's hood; tools for easier scripting and dialogs, etc.
I don't know..I can see a really good potential and not just for this new game

 

[just]

Can they waste another 3-4 of development building another engine?

no, as you can see with the recent 2 weapons dlc

 

[ItsChon]

I don't know about you, but this looks quite fucking good, and they still have another 3-4 years of total development, of which a good chunk of time will just be pure engine work. Stygian Software as a game development company have put out enough quality work that they deserve the benefit of the doubt, so keep that in mind that the next time you feel inclined to make a snap judgement on something.

The problem is that Stygian is an indie team. Can they waste another 3-4 of development building another engine?
The original game engine was good enough. Didn't need an "improvement".
Just needed more actual content in the form of a sequel.
This "improvement" looks like something that only the developer though it was needed or maybe the devs got bored and wanted add 3D in the engine just for "fun".

Well obviously they think they can afford to spend a few years developing another engine, and they know their financials better than any of us. Stygian has made millions of dollars of revenue hrough the release of Underrail and Expedition. Even if we were to assume relatively low margins of around 50%, they've probably net around 1-2 million dollars of pure profit. That should be more than enough to run a small indie company of around 5-6 people for a few years, especially since the company is based in Serbia which even if we're being generous has an average yearly salary of around $20,000 USD.

Finally, the biggest thing about the engine as revealed in the screenshots is that it will allow them to make content that they previously could not and also streamline the creation of content that they could do before. These are grown men running a company, I'm sure they took all this into account before they decided to bite the bullet on creating an entirely new engine for Infusion. If we're lucky, we'll see Infusion, and an Underrail 2 within the next decade, and Styg can retire having made good money while also cementing has legacy as one of the best cRPG developers of all time.

 

[ciox]

It feels like everyone should just look at the infusion devlogs again, they explain what is gained with a new engine, what is 2d and what is 3d and why, etc: https://stygiansoftware.com/infusion/

 

[jackofshadows]

The original game engine was good enough. Didn't need an "improvement".

Not really. It's obvious that several newer areas in the OG not only had tremendously longer loading times which is tolerable but some of them like that dungeon with flames all over showed that the engine was at breaking point and if they wanted to add even more stuff it wouldn't handle it for sure. In other words, level design needs. Also Styg was saying about potential verticality to fights which would be great to see, the OG is flat as fuck, unfortunately.

 

[CHEMS]

DLC coming tomorrow fellas

 

[Tygrende]

Crafting ain't shit

 

[Cyberarmy]

DRAW PİLGRİM!

 

[CHEMS]

Crafting ain't shit

The buff the uniques got was fun. I could get a free shot with Wyatt's revolver because my initiative was so high. Pistol builds are fun.

 

[ciox]

Like the guy in the comments said, I was surprised there is a use for Lock, since keys usually vanish after being used.

 

[CHEMS]

Like the guy in the comments said, I was surprised there is a use for Lock, since keys usually vanish after being used.

They vanish?

Anyway, my method to gets wyatt's pistol is quicker. I plant a trap at the door and throw a gas grenade, shooting and get out of his line of sight. We'll get trapped and huffing some poison, with no evasion. He goes down pretty quickly this way. It's even easier with acid pistols because of the entanglement.