Underrail: The Incline Awakens

[Zeem]

is it possible to make a heavy weapons build with temporal manipulation that doesn't suck, or is that meta DoA for heavy weapons?

How do you fuck up adding TM to a gun build?

 

[Trash Player]

is it possible to make a heavy weapons build with temporal manipulation that doesn't suck, or is that meta DoA for heavy weapons?

The honest answer? Powergaming-wise, TM trivializes the game. Intended too, Styg wills it so, seeing everything OP about it escaped nerfs.
Zeem probably meant HWs are so OP atm, there is no need to add TM into the mixture to ruin the game.
Fyi, it is possible to burst 2 times for 11 bullets each and throw a grenade with adrenaline in Depot A. That is without TM.

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[Zeem]

is it possible to make a heavy weapons build with temporal manipulation that doesn't suck, or is that meta DoA for heavy weapons?

The honest answer? Powergaming-wise, TM trivializes the game. Intended too, Styg wills it so, seeing everything OP about it escaped nerfs.
Zeem probably meant HWs are so OP atm, there is no need to add TM into the mixture to ruin the game.
Fyi, it is possible to burst 2 times for 11 bullets each and throw a grenade with adrenaline in Depot A. That is without TM.

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No, I mean TM is just a straight up massive buff even without any investment outside of skill points, so you can just slap it on top of an otherwise psiless build for major gains.

 

[gerd]

Can someone pls suggest some decent spear build, i know that spears are not really good and you need a lot of points to make it work , but still

 

[blessed king of longing]

Can someone pls suggest some decent spear build, i know that spears are not really good and you need a lot of points to make it work , but still

unless spears got heavily nerfed since they were implemented, they shouldn't be weak. iirc i killed tchort in 1 single turn, with every buff popped imaginable but still

 

[BING XI LAO]

Started a Heavy Gun run on Hard. LMGs are fun, dakka is satisfying (blowing tough opposition away in one or two BRRRRR session especially) but by god that thing chews through ammo.

It's a very different experience for sure. Just blew through (dominating) Camp hathor burrower nest easily at level 12 (as in 1 burst per burrower, 4 bursts for Warriors, that sort of thing) but it must have cost me hundreds of charons in terms of ammo. I almost ran out of money by buying ammo and briefly couldn't take the train or afford TNT to blow open tunnel connections. It's fun to blast through even very tough Dominating fights while barely cheesing or sometimes not cheesing at all, but the lack of any long-term money buildup is getting concerning.

Just took out the Free Drones at the Train, could only do it by making them walk forward via grenade sound, then beginning the fight by killing the sniper up close.

 

[ciox]

Not properly confirmed yet with a full run through the game, but I actually have the feeling LMGs are very strong and it's precisely because they don't burn that much ammo compared to their damage potential.
The top burst count between AR and LMG is not that different, and LMGs also get more opportunities for increasing raw damage (Bullet Trance, Heavy Metal) in addition to having the same damage boosts that ARs can get. (Suppressive/Concentrated Fire)
So if they are used right they could be quite economical because things die after just a couple bullets that rip through their armor and health, while you avoid bursting inefficiently and causing overkill.
All this needs to be properly confirmed with an LMG/AR run though, as my existing chars don't really fit the mold, and obviously Dominating complicates things with its barter modifiers.

 

[HeatEXTEND]

Dude stfu ffs

 

[lukaszek]

Can someone pls suggest some decent spear build, i know that spears are not really good and you need a lot of points to make it work , but still

something from my archive,squishy spear throw, dominating proved. Stronk since very start, now you even got javelins.
https://underrail.info/build/?HgMQB...xJh0WEwZcUUvClQASwoVCwrN2PuKfhAHiqLsD4rOiA9--
Looking at it quickly id get versatile lvl1 instead of opportunist to use laz0r guns when needed.

 

[CHEMS]

is it possible to make a heavy weapons build with temporal manipulation that doesn't suck, or is that meta DoA for heavy weapons?

you can slap TM in any build with little investment

even if you don't take any TM feats, it will still make your build way stronger, if you take premeditation, you basically have a instant "i win" button: Premed + Stasis combo

 

[agris]

anyone seen a good dom tincan heavy weapons versatile metathermics/TM build?

 

[CHEMS]

anyone seen a good dom tincan heavy weapons versatile metathermics/TM build?

Ah yes, the jack of all trades, master at none

 

[ciox]

 

[CHEMS]

SIR DO NOT REDEEM THE CUBE SIR

 

[RoBoBOBR]

So if they are used right they could be quite economical because things die after just a couple bullets that rip through their armor and health, while you avoid bursting inefficiently and causing overkill.

things dying from first two-three bullets of a burst do not stop the burst, you still fire all shots. "economical" is not something that comes to mind when i think of LMG/Minigun.

 

[CHEMS]

We should be able to have a ammo press station in our house, there's no real reason for not being able to craft casings besides MUH BALANCE

 

[ciox]

So if they are used right they could be quite economical because things die after just a couple bullets that rip through their armor and health, while you avoid bursting inefficiently and causing overkill.

things dying from first two-three bullets of a burst do not stop the burst, you still fire all shots. "economical" is not something that comes to mind when i think of LMG/Minigun.

Like I said I don't see why they would be much worse than SMG/AR, they are close in ammo consumption when you take Commando/Dex into account, but the LMG/Minigun kills tough enemies in fewer bursts since you can get like +200% damage from feats. Single shot capability of SMG/AR isn't even used that much because you'd rather not take any chances of the fuckers surviving another turn on you, and there's nothing to buff your stray single shots while there are many things that buff your bursts.

 

[BING XI LAO]

anyone seen a good dom tincan heavy weapons versatile metathermics/TM build?

I'm doing that on dom now but with TC instead of Meta/TM

Spoiler

it sucks

 

[Agame]

Think I may jump back into this now with the expansions out, heavy weapons sounds sweet, but are they 'late game' only like in Fallout? Should I take a secondary weapon skill for the early game?

 

[destinae vomitus]

Think I may jump back into this now with the expansions out, heavy weapons sounds sweet, but are they 'late game' only like in Fallout? Should I take a secondary weapon skill for the early game?

Heavy Guns has synergy with Guns so you can easily get away with just using a pistol up until Junkyard, and by then you ought to be able to buy or put together an LMG. Miniguns appear later on (in and around Core City) but they aren't very good currently.

 

[Mauman]

Styg you fucking retard. If you're going to put in God Awful shit like the Phreak quest in this game, at least have the GOOD FUCKING GRACE TO MAKE SURE IT WORKS.

I'm getting code works, all green, no door NO FUCKING QUEST ITEMS at BOTH of the phones. I've spent hours figuring this fucking thing out only to be blocked by God knows what (a bug, a misunderstanding, I don't fucking know).

Good God I've lost some brain cells today.

 

[Mauman]

Styg you fucking retard. If you're going to put in God Awful shit like the Phreak quest in this game, at least have the GOOD FUCKING GRACE TO MAKE SURE IT WORKS.

I'm getting code works, all green, no door NO FUCKING QUEST ITEMS at BOTH of the phones. Good God I've lost some brain cells today.

there's more phones, you blockhead

No, "blockhead". I'm at the two phones that are supposedly the correct ones (the one near Grubbins, and the one SE of the institute), so fuck off unless you have something actually useful to say?

 

[blessed king of longing]

Styg you fucking retard. If you're going to put in God Awful shit like the Phreak quest in this game, at least have the GOOD FUCKING GRACE TO MAKE SURE IT WORKS.

I'm getting code works, all green, no door NO FUCKING QUEST ITEMS at BOTH of the phones. Good God I've lost some brain cells today.

there's more phones, you blockhead

No, "blockhead". I'm at the two phones that are supposedly the correct ones (the one near Grubbins, and the one SE of the institute), so fuck off unless you have something actually useful to say?

say this to my fucking face bitch ?

 

[Forest Dweller]

So have enough people played the DLC to confirm the new content? New weapons/skills, one area, and one quest?

 

[Mauman]

Styg you fucking retard. If you're going to put in God Awful shit like the Phreak quest in this game, at least have the GOOD FUCKING GRACE TO MAKE SURE IT WORKS.

I'm getting code works, all green, no door NO FUCKING QUEST ITEMS at BOTH of the phones. Good God I've lost some brain cells today.

there's more phones, you blockhead

No, "blockhead". I'm at the two phones that are supposedly the correct ones (the one near Grubbins, and the one SE of the institute), so fuck off unless you have something actually useful to say?

yeah, uninstall, you're too dumb

Actually, after venting. I found out what the problem was. I did misunderstood the deal. I didn't realize I had to do each phone 3 times in a row.

That being said, your comment about being at the wrong phone was still wrong and retarded. Much like you I suppose.