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World of Darkness Vampire: The Masquerade – Bloodlines 2 from Hardsuit Labs

GrafvonMoltke

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Can’t wait to roleplay as Billy Idol
 

Child of Malkav

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Just my two whispers:
1. If they have Malkavians as a starting clan, how much work would they have to put in? Rewriting dialogue, NPCs reactions, whispers, maybe add some hallucinations here and there.
2. If they have Nosferatu as a starting clan however, they would simply have to enforce a certain playstyles: hiding, traveling through the sewers, not making contact with NPCS as that would be a masquerade violation etc.
It seems to me that, Nos would be much easier to implement than Malks, the amount of work would be normal or minimal compared with the other clans. So I think that Nos may be one of the clans and Malks would be DLC. As long as we get both though that's all that matters.
 

ArchAngel

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My pessimism is such that when running I would only be permitted to not players do one thing, it'd always be "NO FUCKING MALKS", I'd rather have the last of the White Howlers or Samuel fucking Haight show up than what every player Malk I've had the sorry experience of encountering has been like.
Tell us more details about how they have been like :)
 

ArchAngel

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Just my two whispers:
1. If they have Malkavians as a starting clan, how much work would they have to put in? Rewriting dialogue, NPCs reactions, whispers, maybe add some hallucinations here and there.
2. If they have Nosferatu as a starting clan however, they would simply have to enforce a certain playstyles: hiding, traveling through the sewers, not making contact with NPCS as that would be a masquerade violation etc.
It seems to me that, Nos would be much easier to implement than Malks, the amount of work would be normal or minimal compared with the other clans. So I think that Nos may be one of the clans and Malks would be DLC. As long as we get both though that's all that matters.
You are wrong. Nosferatu would need them to add alternate ways to do all missions if you cannot interact with anyone. That means expanded levels, more models and other expensive 3d stuff.
Malk just needs a bit more writing and some more voice work. It is not like Malk had a bunch of new quests and special shit in Bloodlines 1. They added some different text, a bit more voice overs and that TV stuff and talking to a pole.
 

Child of Malkav

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Just my two whispers:
1. If they have Malkavians as a starting clan, how much work would they have to put in? Rewriting dialogue, NPCs reactions, whispers, maybe add some hallucinations here and there.
2. If they have Nosferatu as a starting clan however, they would simply have to enforce a certain playstyles: hiding, traveling through the sewers, not making contact with NPCS as that would be a masquerade violation etc.
It seems to me that, Nos would be much easier to implement than Malks, the amount of work would be normal or minimal compared with the other clans. So I think that Nos may be one of the clans and Malks would be DLC. As long as we get both though that's all that matters.
You are wrong. Nosferatu would need them to add alternate ways to do all missions if you cannot interact with anyone. That means expanded levels, more models and other expensive 3d stuff.
Malk just needs a bit more writing and some more voice work. It is not like Malk had a bunch of new quests and special shit in Bloodlines 1. They added some different text, a bit more voice overs and that TV stuff and talking to a pole.
Every area would have sewers and transport between hubs would be through........sewers.
Apparently in Vtmb 1, sewers could get you anywhere, except certain missions, like the Dane.
Also, sewers are pretty much copy-paste. Not that much money for ctrl-c, ctrl-v compared to like, say, voice acting which is notoriously expensive.
Also they said in interviews that they want this to be an immersive sim like game, so multiple options of approach, alternative solutions are already considered and accounted for in the level design.
 

fantadomat

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Sometimes I wonder if some people in here have actually seen women anywhere else other than pornhub.
Although even there you can find different stuff than BIG BEWBS if you know how to search
Ahaaaa,you haven't pick a side faggot. Is it a woman or is it a trap,tranny,gay,gender fluid or any other creature???
 

Roguey

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I doubt they'd risk it, people would be furious if it wasn't a fishmalk.

Progs would get madder and Brian's already sided with them on this issue when it comes to the depiction of mental illness.

(similar to how New Vegas didn't do caveman-speak for low-int dialogue for similar reasons)

nosferatu should be the incel playthrough XD

Jeanette had sex with Bertram (and potentially your nosferatu character) so there's always someone. :M
 

Jimmious

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Steve gets a Kidney but I don't even get a tag.
Sometimes I wonder if some people in here have actually seen women anywhere else other than pornhub.
Although even there you can find different stuff than BIG BEWBS if you know how to search
Ahaaaa,you haven't pick a side faggot. Is it a woman or is it a trap,tranny,gay,gender fluid or any other creature???
No adam's apple so no tranny/trap, all characteristics indicate a woman. How the fuck would we know if she's gay tho?
 

Vaarna_Aarne

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MCA Project: Eternity Torment: Tides of Numenera Wasteland 2
My pessimism is such that when running I would only be permitted to not players do one thing, it'd always be "NO FUCKING MALKS", I'd rather have the last of the White Howlers or Samuel fucking Haight show up than what every player Malk I've had the sorry experience of encountering has been like.
Tell us more details about how they have been like :)
Well it's all giant hammers, boxing gloves, and shouting random non-sequitors, 100% chance of also doing random things that only inconvenience the rest of the party. Main variable is always if they look exactly like Harley Quinn or not.
 

Roguey

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Strange Fellow I'm not sure which subject you need a citation for. From the Kotaku interview
It’s fifteen years later and things have changed. We have to be very sensitive about how we handle things like mental illness and that was a concern for us and for Paradox, in how we can make a mature story but if we do anything, we do our homework and make sure that we are punching up and not punching down.

And as for Jeanette, there's her black book on her computer which includes her ratings of their performance (including yours)
Little Black Book

Mikey – (310) 555-5337 mikey@yahooligan.vtm – *****
Bertie – btung@schrecknet.vtm – **
Arthur – (310) 555-9829 – *
Jeff – (310) 555-9006 – ****
Sara – (310) 555-2216 – ****
Jack – (310) 555-8181 – *****
Duckling – My new kitten! – ***

Additionally, Therese's angry emails

[3] Santa Monica is MY city!
<Subject> Santa Monica is MY city!
<From> Therese Voerman
You dirty little slut! How DARE you meddle in the affairs of my city, and with that disgusting Nosferatu no less?

[4] re: Santa Monica is MY city!
<Subject> re: Santa Monica is MY city!
<From> Therese Voerman
I'm disgusting? I'm not the one that let that Nosferatu touch me! Can't you see that he is trying to tear us apart to take over the city?
 

ArchAngel

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My pessimism is such that when running I would only be permitted to not players do one thing, it'd always be "NO FUCKING MALKS", I'd rather have the last of the White Howlers or Samuel fucking Haight show up than what every player Malk I've had the sorry experience of encountering has been like.
Tell us more details about how they have been like :)
Well it's all giant hammers, boxing gloves, and shouting random non-sequitors, 100% chance of also doing random things that only inconvenience the rest of the party. Main variable is always if they look exactly like Harley Quinn or not.
Sound like they are played by girls (or trannies :D)
 

Prime Junta

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As an aside, who are Jeff and Sara? I take it Mikey is Michael Durbin and the others are fairly obvious... (not much of a black book that, considering)
 

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