World of Darkness Vampire: The Masquerade – Bloodlines 2 from Hardsuit Labs

[purupuru]

As long as those gay men are ripped.
Proper and blatant sexualization would be incline regardless of gender.

 

[Longes]

Everybody posting in this thread is going to buy BL2 on day one anyway.

Joke's on you idiot, I pre-ordered it day -180

 

[Momock]

Anarchs:

pros - saves your ass three times, no questions asked

brought together a vietnam veteran and a proto sjw in the embrace of FREEDOM

almost every cute gurl is an anarch (though jenny is playing both games)

nines gives you free skill points in fighting if you suck ass

cons - had you kill that one ghoul once lol

are bad at surviving chinese invasions

What about having to clean up their bad blood mess? Fuck the popos until you need them, right?

 

[Nano]

What about having to clean up their bad blood mess? Fuck the popos until you need them, right?

I wasn't aware the MC in Bloodlines is a cop.

 

[Longes]

What about having to clean up their bad blood mess? Fuck the popos until you need them, right?

I wasn't aware the MC in Bloodlines is a cop.

 

[Momock]

I wasn't aware the MC in Bloodlines is a cop.

Do I have to explain this?
The anarchs feel ashamed and frustrated to have to resort to a cammy to make things straight, the same way hoods feel ashamed and frustrated when they have to call the police.
Everything is fine without them until it's not.

 

[True Ukrainian]

I wasn't aware the MC in Bloodlines is a cop.

Do I have to explain this?
The anarchs feel ashamed and frustrated to have to resort to a cammy to make things straight, the same way hoods feel ashamed and frustrated when they have to call the police.
Everything is fine without them until it's not.

But what if your character joins the anarchs? Would it still be calling a cammy to help?

 

[Momock]

At this point of the game, yes. You join them at the very end.

 

[Ol' Willy]

almost every cute gurl is an anarch

Except the cutest one - Pisha. Whatever faction she's in, I want to be there too.

 

[Vincente]

almost every cute gurl is an anarch

Except the cutest one - Pisha. Whatever faction she's in, I want to be there too.

I'm sure she doesnt want anyone else on her side.

 

[Ol' Willy]

Even games that were tied-up in the fervor of 9/11 aren't as shortsighted as we think today. Privacy and government overreach, for another. Is not Deus Ex one of the few games everyone can agree did politics right?

Oh boy, should I remind you that Deus Ex came up before the September of fun? Deus Ex didn't meddle in any current politics at the time - it tried to meddle in the politics of the future, and god damn how successful it was at that. This is why Deus Ex is a masterpiece and it's agenda stands out even years later, while games that deal with current problems are gone and forgotten.

 

[Ol' Willy]

I'm sure she doesnt want anyone else on her side.

Considering that her true name is unknown, and Pisha is a name of her dead lover, I'm sure that her attitude could be changed

 

[Longes]

Is not Deus Ex one of the few games everyone can agree did politics right?

You'd think so, but just a couple days ago a certain video essayist on youtube talked at length about being uncomfortable with conspiracy theories and how conspiracy theorists are all angry straight young men that hate women and minorities.

 

[Nano]

At this point of the game, yes. You join them at the very end.

No you don't. The pro-Anarch quest path involves you spying on the Camarilla and the Prince.

 

[Delterius]

almost every cute gurl is an anarch

Except the cutest one - Pisha. Whatever faction she's in, I want to be there too.

I'm sure she doesnt want anyone else on her side.

But she sure wants a lot of people on the side.

Ha ha ha

 

[Infinitron]

Deus Ex didn't meddle in any current politics at the time - it tried to meddle in the politics of the future, and god damn how successful it was at that.

Depends how you define meddle. Deus Ex is definitely infused with recognizable 1990s political references. It was a less partisan time so these things weren't as noticeable. But you wouldn't have had a game where your first enemies are the "National Secessionist Forces" without events like this: ttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Waco_siege

 

[Ol' Willy]

But you wouldn't have had a game where your first enemies are the "National Secessionist Forces" without events like this: ttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Waco_siege

Not necessarily. It goes along with the popular alternative history/future about second Civil War in USA. From Deus Ex backstory:

The National Secessionist Forces (NSF) was formed in 2031 as the Northwest Secessionist Forces. A year prior to the formation of the NSF, a major earthquake sunk most of Southern California into the ocean. With the United States government focusing on the disaster on the ex-West Coast, the needs of the other parts of the country went unmet. In 2031, Utah announced its intention to secede from the United States, declaring its independence and annexing what was left of Arizona and Nevada. Inspired by Utah's example, fringe groups in Texas declared independence as well. Shortly afterwards, various paramilitary groups in Washington state, Oregon, Idaho, Montana and Wyoming united with Utah and Texas to form the NSF. All of these attempts to secede failed, though martial law continues to exist in some portions of these states.

Funnily, American Civil War is called Sezessionskrieg in German, so naming your separatists "Secessionist Forces" instead of "New Confederacy" is logical.

 

[HansDampf]

https://rpgcodex.net/forums/threads...-get-a-remix-album.133606/page-2#post-6825672

Warren has more than once stated that he isn’t bothered by either the sales or critical reception of his games. Instead, he measures success by the conversations players have around his games. “Some years ago, I gave a talk at The New School in New York and afterwards did something I never do – went out for drinks with folks who’d been in the audience. At the bar, one of them sat down next to me (he was a little drunk) and asked ‘how could you make that right-wing piece of propaganda?’. Before I could answer, another guy walked up and, having overheard, said ‘right-wing propaganda? It was left-wing from start to finish!” The fact is, they were both right I guess, based on how they’d played. I was really tickled by that.”

...

Warren once said that when it comes to making games, if you don’t have anything to say then you’re wasting everyone’s time. I ask him if he still believes that. “I still believe it’s nice to have something to say – or, more precisely, interesting questions you want to discuss with players. It’s not for me to say what kinds of games people should make, but the fact is we wanted to address big ideas in Deus Ex. We extrapolated from current events back in the late ‘90s, which are sadly still relevant today. I mean, it’s a little freaky that the World Trade Center isn’t in the skyline. The kickoff to the story is the Gray Death, a pandemic that begins with coughing and a fever. The idea that the authorities aren’t always in the right. The risks associated with genetic manipulation, and the dangers of advanced AI. All of those had real-world corollaries back then. We gave everything a conspiratorial spin, of course, but basing your game on real events and fears gives you a better chance of achieving relevance compared with making another game about a space marine who stands between Earth and an alien invasion. I mean, come on – we can do better than that!”

 

[Morpheus Kitami]

Oh boy, should I remind you that Deus Ex came up before the September of fun? Deus Ex didn't meddle in any current politics at the time - it tried to meddle in the politics of the future, and god damn how successful it was at that. This is why Deus Ex is a masterpiece and it's agenda stands out even years later, while games that deal with current problems are gone and forgotten.

I was aware, that's why it was after privacy and government overreach. Which, despite what we think today, were still issues back then. Just in a scary corporation/government imposes their desires by brute force way, rather than people being fools as is the hot topic today.

You'd think so, but just a couple days ago a certain video essayist on youtube talked at length about being uncomfortable with conspiracy theories and how conspiracy theorists are all angry straight young men that hate women and minorities.

Really? Nobody better tell her that conspiracy theories were thought of as a left-wing thing back in the 20th century or about Yakob and Black Egyptians. Although I guess Black Egyptians do hate minorities...Ethnic Egyptians...

 

[Semiurge]

Is not Deus Ex one of the few games everyone can agree did politics right?

Oh boy, some of the things in it are very close to home now, maybe too close.

As long as those gay men are ripped.
Proper and blatant sexualization would be incline regardless of gender.

Muscle is a power trip, not objectification or sexualisation. I tend to believe it to be so, anything that's empowering to the object in question can't be negative. Some might argue that if a woman is considered very attractive, it's empowering to her. It's a subject of debate at least.

If only the other skins had the same attention and care as the female malk's. The female nosferatu is glorious though, very cenobite-esque.

Except the cutest one - Pisha. Whatever faction she's in, I want to be there too.

The Nagaraja are independent.

 

[Momock]

At this point of the game, yes. You join them at the very end.

No you don't. The pro-Anarch quest path involves you spying on the Camarilla and the Prince.

Oh, yeah you're right. I guess I forgot about that since everything is the same "spying" or not.

 

[Semiurge]

Finally a new update: https://steamcommunity.com/games/532790/announcements/detail/2735325522595133730

I find that those trashy neopagan/goth-witch types don't really look like the sort that the secretive, insulate Tremere would even consider siring. They look more like mary sues and vampire wannabes.

 

[Longes]

Finally a new update: https://steamcommunity.com/games/532790/announcements/detail/2735325522595133730

I find that those trashy neopagan/goth-witch types don't really look like the sort that the secretive, insulate Tremere would even consider siring. They look more like mary sues and vampire wannabes.

In V5 Tremere split into three four sub-clans. You've got:

• House Tremere, who are the OG Camarilla Tremere led by Karl Shrek, a paranoid xenophobe concerned with keeping the clan exactly the way it was and murdering every supernatural being that isn't a vampire. And also most vampires.
• House Carna, who are also Camarilla, led by Carna. Carna broke the blood bond on the entire clan, and then made her own house, recruiting from neopagans, witches and feminists because this ain't yo daddy's patriarchal magic and those bigoted patriarchal Tremere should suck Carna's girlcock.
  
• House Ipsydipshit, who are Anarch Tremere and kewl and spell magic with a k because of how kewl they are. There's pretty much nothing on them, and anyone making an Anarch Tremere instead says that they are House Carna.
• House Goratrix, led by Tremere "Goratrix", who have about five sentences mentioning them in the entire V5 run.

It is implied that the split of the Tremere may or may not be all according to keikaku of big daddy Tremere, who's playing 4D chess to weasel out of Saulot's control and also play every sect and come out on top.

In practice Carna's "we are rebooting magic with feminism" means nothing, because House Carna has the exact same disciplines and powers and blood magic rituals that mainstream Tremere have. But if you are a blood descendant of Carna you can buy the ability to cast rituals without spending blood, and make blood bonds through heavy dicking.

 

[Morpheus Kitami]

But if you are a blood descendant of Carna you can buy the ability to cast rituals without spending blood, and make blood bonds through heavy dicking.

I'm gonna ask for more explaination on all of this, but I want special attention given to whatever the actual fuck this is supposed to be. Do you mean there are literal vampire blood orgies going on here? That sounds less like feminism and more like someone watched way too fucking many Jesus Franco films. We need a smiley of that meme of a fat kid warding off evil with a cross.

 

[Semiurge]

and make blood bonds through heavy dicking.

Hey, I've seen an illustration of that somewhere....

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