World of Darkness Vampire: The Masquerade – Bloodlines 2 from Hardsuit Labs

[Heroic Liberator]

How about ZA/UM

I would like this if only because of how entertaining it'd be to read this thread.

They're too hipsterish to pick up such a project even if they'd be offered it imho.

 

[Fenix]

i read there was a leaker on here who predicted this. who

I got some info from Russian beta-tester, according to him it was a disaster. Hehe.

 

[Dycedarg]

Killed by wokeness or mismanagement? *That* is the question!

Wokeness is usually a way for incompetent people to disguise their stupidity and avoid getting fired. If you look at the american film industry, you will see several examples of this strategy.

 

[Fenix]

I would say it different - people were shown that if they took the rigth side, Management (tm) will be more condescending to their fuck ups.
It's not people who is smart here, it's those who showed them how to sell the soul for banal little things, for trifles.

 

[IHaveHugeNick]

According to my sources Bloodlines 2 will be renamed into "Chris Avellone's Comic-Con Simulator With Vampires", launch in 2022.

Stay tuned.

 

[purupuru]

You guys know the last time you started listing rational choices for studios we ended up with Hardsuit Labs, right?

Every time someone says 'they'll probably give this to the shadowrun bunnies studio' the chances of a little estonian company increases tenfold.

Come one mate,we do it to entertain ourself. We all know that it will be a hot mess.

Point is we can tempt fate the other way. Case in point:

I'm pretty sure Bloodlines 2 is gonna be developed by koreans. Please look forward to rolling gacha machines for the super rare 2003 version of Damsel.

See? Now we might get [good company that shall not be named] instead.

Let's go, team miHoYo!

 

[Fenix]

Seriously now - what are the chances to get back on board Mitsoda?

 

[Roguey]

You people should cool it with mocking comments, think of every poor consumer who preordered this game for the stop sign

Taking this time to appreciate the comedy of Paradox putting up a stop sign as a preorder bonus while the devs themselves talked about how the stop sign dialogue was insensitive to the mentally ill and they weren't going to include anything like that. P'dox should take this time to consider which direction they want to go in.

I think Spiders/Cyanide have top tier writers, they're just operating within the constraints of what little resources they have. I'd love to see them get a shot at a huge title like this (though I imagine they'll just hand it to Harebrained).

I imagine Cyanide's in the doghouse now on account of Earthblood doing so poorly. The writing was also received quite poorly here.

Oh yeah,they will give it to those sjws for sure. Which is really stupid because they won't be able to do a third person open world rpg for sure. Their forte is making top down TB rpgs with trannies in them. It will be a huge mess if they give it to harebraindead.

Before Bloodlines, Troika had only ever done pseudo-isometric turnbased RPGs and they had never worked with Source before (or anyone else for that matter). I'd have more faith in them shipping a decent RPG than any other Paradox-owned studio. That being said, I doubt it's going to them.

 

[Curious_Tongue]

Have I been missing out on drama?

 

[Duraframe300]

You people should cool it with mocking comments, think of every poor consumer who preordered this game for the stop sign

Taking this time to appreciate the comedy of Paradox putting up a stop sign as a preorder bonus while the devs themselves talked about how the stop sign dialogue was insensitive to the mentally ill and they weren't going to include anything like that. P'dox should take this time to consider which direction they want to go in.

I still remember that first interview with Brian & Co trash talking the first game including stop sign and tourette. Then go full *we only punch up* rhetoric.

Lost all hope then. Other games at least manage to deceive until release.

 

[Roguey]

Anyway the Mass Effect Andromeda writer is now claiming she barely had anything to do with this.

Thank you for reaching out to me I didn't work on that game much and was hired for other things but I do feel for my colleagues who worked so hard on it.

Guess she's the narrative lead on another project after all? And those other art leads too. I imagine Paradox wasn't thrilled Hardsuit was putting in all this work on hiring for something new when their previous project was an overdue mess.

 

[Dycedarg]

I would say it different - people were shown that if they took the rigth side, Management (tm) will be more condescending to their fuck ups.
It's not people who is smart here, it's those who showed them how to sell the soul for banal little things, for trifles.

It really depends of the company. In some cases, the managers seem very unwilling to fire incompetent employees for fear of a PR backlash. And there are quite a few games journos who made their careers by simply pandering to the woke crowd and pretending they don't hate all the games they cover. But enough about Jim Sterling.

They're too hipsterish to pick up such a project even if they'd be offered it imho.

Also in ZA/UM's only game, they got rid of the combat to focus C&C and writing. There's nothing wrong with that choice, but it would be weird to hire them to salvage an action rpg that's been in development hell.

 

[InD_ImaginE]

Let's go, team miHoYo!

unironically some of the bigger Chinese devs could probably be making better games than AA murican studio

besides CCP propaganda at the very least the devs got their feet on the ground on actually making a game instead of busy hiring incompetent people at high turnover rate

 

[Spacer's Nugget]

 

[Infinitron]

He's back!

 

[just]

did mitsoda also went into an elevator with some woman and do nothing?

 

[Mikeal]

Inside story on this will be fantastic. May even give Magna Mundi's a run for its money.

What happened with Magna Mundi?

 

[Lambach]

Have I been missing out on drama?

Wait, is this guy just shitposting or is there evidence of devs molesting each other? I could definitively believe it, but this is the first time I'm seeing someone imply that.

 

[Spacer's Nugget]

@SpaceNugget you are summoned

we dare you to excite us again

Hey, buddy! Don't you worry no more, the game is now in good hands! A Prosper proper RPG studio!!!

Also: the game will be released only on NEXT-GEN consoles*!!! Wowzas!


*(and PC)

 

[Rahdulan]

ITZ HAPPENING

Good morning, @everyone

As you have noticed, we’ve been keeping pretty quiet for a while. With this in mind, the first piece of news we have for you is to confirm that Bloodlines 2 is still in development.

Secondly, we have made the hard decision that Hardsuit Labs will no longer be leading the development of Bloodlines 2 - which also means that we will not be releasing in 2021 as previously planned. Since we cannot at this time communicate a new release date, we've also decided to stop accepting pre-orders for the time being.

This game is very important to us and it has been an ambitious project from the very start. In order to meet our goals for it, we’ve come to the conclusion that a change is needed and, as a result, more development time is required.

We’d like to take this opportunity to honor Hardsuit Labs for their efforts and thank them for their hard work on the project. The studio has done a tremendous job in laying the foundations for the game and we hope that you, the community, will also appreciate their contribution to Bloodlines 2.

We’re thankful for your continuous support throughout the game’s development. We understand how important this is to you, and we’d love to share more with you. As soon as we can, we’ll let you know what the future development team of Bloodlines 2 will look like.

Part of me almost feels bad for Paradox and what they stuck their dick in with Bloodlines 2. Almost. Then again this may be less outlandish than people maybe think because you have to remember the Chechenya fiasco with the roleplaying game itself. Paradox is NOT above directly assuming control/putting a tight leash if they don't like what's going on.

 

[Wesp5]

Actually this is the third game,since the franchise is vampires:masqurade,Bloodlines was sub title. Sadly paracux are pretty retarded.

Indeed, when they showed me the intro and tutorial before it was announced, one of my first suggestions was to choose another name. Because Bloodlines 2 sounds like a sequel and playing years later in another city and basically another PnP ruleset it just couldn't be...

 

[Hellraiser]

Inside story on this will be fantastic. May even give Magna Mundi's a run for its money.

What happened with Magna Mundi?

Modder drama.

 

[Tuco Benedicto Pacifico]

It's funny how the press statement tries so hard to sugarcoat it, while still making blatantly obvious that Hardsuit Labs got the boot because it turned out to be painfully inadequate for the job.

For how I see it this is just good news (for anyone who doesn't work at HSL, at least). Of course it could still take a hilarious turn for the worst as soon as the new studio is confirmed, but when you were setting your expectations to zero, it's hard to be disappointed anyway.

 

[Spacer's Nugget]

From the start i knew this will be a mockery of another one of my favorite games. But development of this... fine masterpiece was one of the most entertaining fuck ups i've ever seen. I give it 10 Mitsoda's fingerless gloves out of 10. You can't make that shit up.

All these tards who preordered screaming "muh classic returns i coom in my pants" when this piece of digital abortion was announced. An sjw travesty from a dev team with almost no portfolio other than some defunct PVP trash. From the devs so pathetically cucked that they thought lips icon was sexist

Inclusion is part of the accessibility process as well, we have been very conscious about creating iconography that is non-gender specific and considerate of cultural sensitivities. The icons are designed to not rely on gendered tropes (such as pouty lips for seduction or a man’s dress shirt to represent wardrobe), and we use straightforward ideas for icons that can be interpreted no matter the native language or culture.

Turns out Bloodlines was sexist for using man and woman lips icons while talking to them respectively.

Luckly all these people who pre ordered still have an option to refund it.

There was this suspected PR guy posting in the thread about a year back and he did a very good job of getting people excited.

The funny thing is I never said the game would be any good.

I was overtly enthusiastic at the prospect of a new first-person RPG, and it's a shame it didn't pay off. But, hey, at least in the mean time we got Fallout 76, The Outer Worlds, and Cyberpunk 2077, huh?

 

[Aemar]