World of Darkness Vampire: The Masquerade – Bloodlines 2 from Hardsuit Labs

[Murk]

I would just love it if someone went on a Monty or MCA style rantathon about all that happened during this shit show.

 

[Monkey Baron]

I would just love it if someone went on a Monty or MCA style rantathon about all that happened during this shit show.

I wonder how much Chris would be able to divulge. I would love to know the manboon behind the internal 2018 audit and the firing of Ka'ai and Brian.

I wish I lived in the alternate world where he was never cancelled.

 

[mondblut]

Saw Cara tweeted this recently, thought you guys may find it interesting.

My job very important! Pls gib moar moneys!

Behead all storyfags.

 

[ERYFKRAD]

Behead all storyfags

Twice, just in case.

 

[DeepOcean]

I dunno about Mitsoda work after Bloodlines, working with a franchise is always easier than creating stuff from zero but one thing you cant accuse him is of not giving a fuck, yes, maybe the end result of his work on this Bloodlines 2 vapourware ended being meh anyway but we had two options: Mitsoda managing the danger hair tumblerinas, maybe at least controlling the damage, and danger hair tumblerinas free to do anything they like, now the first option is gone... well... we have a Han Solo "Don't give me the odds." moment.

 

[Storyfag]

Behead all storyfags

Twice, just in case.

Try your best, both of you

 

[Monkey Baron]

Marge Tang for president.

Found this at the Internet Cafe!

 

[Wesp5]

Found this at the Internet Cafe!

Wow, I never made that connection. But I remember that the "Nivbed" listed there was also a Troika employee...

 

[Vincente]

But I remember that the "Nivbed" listed there was also a Troika employee...

I think he did some graphical work or something, even the players scratched out apartment nameplates read Nivbed.

 

[Latelistener]

Chair-kicking moment is additional evidence that my ancient source who told me that Mitsoda was an egotistical primadonna who was difficult to work with was on the level.

I'm curious why do you think that source is legit and level headed that it's worth believing him. Studios are full of small conflicts. If that person contacted Mitsoda enough to form an opinion, there is enough room for a personal grudge.

 

[Wesp5]

I'm curious why do you think that source is legit and level headed that it's worth believing him.

The source is Rik Schaffer who is a really nice guy and liked to work with Mitsoda as can be seen in his other Reddit AMA comments.

 

[Roguey]

Mitsoda managing the danger hair tumblerinas, maybe at least controlling the damage, and danger hair tumblerinas free to do anything they like, now the first option is gone

Mitsoda was 100% in favor of the dangerhair agenda, hence why he insisted Hardsuit hire Cara and their mutual presence on the Fermi Paradox. He's not the guy from 2004.

I'm curious why do you think that source is legit and level headed that it's worth believing him. Studios are full of small conflicts. If that person contacted Mitsoda enough to form an opinion, there is enough room for a personal grudge.

He's had unceremonious dissolutions with three companies now (Obsidian, Hardsuit, DoubleBear given the divorce with his wife), seems pretty credible to believe the guy's a jerk.

 

[rusty_shackleford]

Egotistical primadonna? No, every artist can, should and often will be upset if his or her art is not respected, be it music, story, paintings, and etcetera. And if he is not, there is a problem here. Because it means that he doesn't stand for what he is doing.

If he was making art, he'd be making his own things instead of coming in as a hired gun for a licensed product. Turns out his idea of art was Dead State and Panic at Multiverse High, which was uh....

Dead State is criminally underrated though.
Very few RPGs are as nonlinear, and it probably holds some kind of record for the amount of interactivity between characters it has.

 

[Eli_Havelock]

Mitsoda managing the danger hair tumblerinas, maybe at least controlling the damage, and danger hair tumblerinas free to do anything they like, now the first option is gone

Mitsoda was 100% in favor of the dangerhair agenda, hence why he insisted Hardsuit hire Cara and their mutual presence on the Fermi Paradox. He's not the guy from 2004.

I'm curious why do you think that source is legit and level headed that it's worth believing him. Studios are full of small conflicts. If that person contacted Mitsoda enough to form an opinion, there is enough room for a personal grudge.

He's had unceremonious dissolutions with three companies now (Obsidian, Hardsuit, DoubleBear given the divorce with his wife), seems pretty credible to believe the guy's a jerk.

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Egotistical primadonna? No, every artist can, should and often will be upset if his or her art is not respected, be it music, story, paintings, and etcetera. And if he is not, there is a problem here. Because it means that he doesn't stand for what he is doing.

If he was making art, he'd be making his own things instead of coming in as a hired gun for a licensed product. Turns out his idea of art was Dead State and Panic at Multiverse High, which was uh....

Dead State is criminally underrated though.
Very few RPGs are as nonlinear, and it probably holds some kind of record for the amount of interactivity between characters it has.

=

The best part of Dead State was his then-wife's epic meltdown.

 

[Latelistener]

I'm curious why do you think that source is legit and level headed that it's worth believing him.

The source is Rik Schaffer who is a really nice guy and liked to work with Mitsoda as can be seen in his other Reddit AMA comments.

I was talking about the Roguey's "ancient source".

He's had unceremonious dissolutions with three companies now (Obsidian, Hardsuit, DoubleBear given the divorce with his wife), seems pretty credible to believe the guy's a jerk.

At Obsidian he had a conflict with Chris Parker. After Alpha Protocol was released, some anonymous Obsidian dev also complained about Parker. Then Chris Avellone here also told us a bunch of shit about him. The guy is a decline and no wonder some people have problems with him.

Regarding Hardsuit, we don't know much unfortunately other than the project was in sort of a dev hell. And DoubleBear is a completely different story. People divorce all the time for various reasons.

 

[Grunker]

Egotistical primadonna? No, every artist can, should and often will be upset if his or her art is not respected, be it music, story, paintings, and etcetera. And if he is not, there is a problem here. Because it means that he doesn't stand for what he is doing.

If he was making art, he'd be making his own things instead of coming in as a hired gun for a licensed product. Turns out his idea of art was Dead State and Panic at Multiverse High, which was uh....

Dead State is criminally underrated though.
Very few RPGs are as nonlinear, and it probably holds some kind of record for the amount of interactivity between characters it has.

too bad it was nearly unplayable

 

[Eli_Havelock]

Saw Cara tweeted this recently, thought you guys may find it interesting.

That IS interesting given the usual excuse of studio-hopping harpies - for not being held on by a studio beyond a single writing credit footnote on a job - is that writing gigs are short-term jobs by nature.
Then some of them try to say that the good positions are being kept exclusive for a conspiring elite keeping everyone else down. You can understand why companies with revolving doors of talent consider these hires to only bring the value of their victim currency and nothing else; times have changed and it's now that carny sideshow on social media in lieu of a marketing division. You just try to keep the tokens from having any serious responsibilities and influence upon anything and hope they don't cancel the real talent while they are there.

 

[Zombra]

I'm curious why do you think that source is legit and level headed that it's worth believing him.

The source is Rik Schaffer who is a really nice guy and liked to work with Mitsoda as can be seen in his other Reddit AMA comments.

I was talking about the Roguey's "ancient source".

Maybe they're one and the same? Schaffer has known Mitsoda since at least Bloodlines 1, no special reason to think Roguey never talked to the guy.

 

[Flying Dutchman]

People divorce all the time for various reasons.

True, but not all of them have Cara Ellison's obvious adoration of Mitsoda in every PR interview to contend with.

Good thing crazy Annie doesn't get jealous of her career going nowhere while her hubbie's getting flirted on in the bright lights of a game people actually know about.

Maybe they're one and the same? Schaffer has known Mitsoda since at least Bloodlines 1, no special reason to think Roguey never talked to the guy.

Considering Mitsoda basically prints money for Rik and his wife, I seriously doubt Rik would dare to shit on Mitsoda in any place where it could be spread.

 

[Latelistener]

Considering Mitsoda basically prints money for Rik and his wife, I seriously doubt Rik would dare to shit on Mitsoda in any place where it could be spread.

In the recent years they did VO for id Software (Doom, Doom: Eternal) and Zenimax Online (Elder Scrolls Online and expansions) among others. I'm sure they'll be fine even without Mitsoda.

 

[Zombra]

Maybe they're one and the same? Schaffer has known Mitsoda since at least Bloodlines 1, no special reason to think Roguey never talked to the guy.

Considering Mitsoda basically prints money for Rik and his wife, I seriously doubt Rik would dare to shit on Mitsoda in any place where it could be spread.

Well - first of all, it wasn't spread. We're just guessing. And Roguey is smart enough to not say anything either way about his sources. Second of all, tell me you've never talked crap about a friend to a third party even though it wasn't a great idea, and I'll give you an amazing deal on the Brooklyn Bridge.

 

[Vormulak]

It'll be released in 2025.

 

[Vormulak]

In other news, they just announced the Sabbat book for V5. Looks terrible.

Don't worry, I bet they are all incloosive too, just like Rudi is.

"We might be literal walking corpses damned for all eternity by god himself to feed on the blood of humans and revel in all the death and destruction we cause, but we'll still respect your pronouns, Caindammit!" - V5 Sabbat Regent, probably

The 'writers' for this abortion of a tabletop book said they won't allow people to actually play Sabbat, only use them as the evilest of evil antagonists. So perhaps sabbat will be bad enough not to use the preferred pronouns of the brave nonbinary black identifying gay thinbloods.

Yeah one of the main antagonists in the sabbat once called a nonbinary demi-sexual otherkin ''she'', needless to say this reignited the war between the sabbat and the anarchs in the area.

 

[True Ukrainian]

Considering Mitsoda basically prints money for Rik and his wife, I seriously doubt Rik would dare to shit on Mitsoda in any place where it could be spread.

In the recent years they did VO for id Software (Doom, Doom: Eternal) and Zenimax Online (Elder Scrolls Online and expansions) among others. I'm sure they'll be fine even without Mitsoda.

It's still not good business to shit on your client. As far as Rik is concerned, Mitsoda was his boss, not Hardsuit.

 

[fantadomat]

It'll be released in 2025.

Sooo,before start citizen then...