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On the one hand, you use terms as real entities with clear boundaries, and on the other hand, you arbitrarily indicate what meets the conditions of the term and what does not.
Simple, noir can be for a good part defined by it's aesthetics, the others can not. Also, those are one and the same hand, no other hand.
 

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On the one hand, you use terms as real entities with clear boundaries, and on the other hand, you arbitrarily indicate what meets the conditions of the term and what does not.
Simple, noir can be for a good part defined by it's aesthetics, the others can not. Also, those are one and the same hand, no other hand.

Simple, a cat can be considered an animal based on its appearance, but a dog cannot. Also, there is no contradiction in this.
 

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Ok this won't go anywhere, please resume regular programming :lol:

Life, especially human life, has little in common with the artificial world of programming. Culture is not a calculus of predicates. This was my objection two posts ago - you treat terms as real entities that you throw into the calculus of predicates, i.e. closed wholes in logical relationships. The problem is that terms, especially those that do not have their own material referents, in the social sense have an open, associative nature. Deal with it.
 

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i'm watching kindred the embraced and wow its baaaaaaad
Well, it's old. Probably still better than any other vampire themed tv shows.
The articles say the show was considered too complex for the general audience due to 5 clans and many characters... '90s sure were a weird place, were people really that dumb?
There was no video on demand, so studios insisted on plots that didn't ask the audience to bring anything in the way of context.

24 was a turning point for longer arcs, but it had lengthy "previously on" summaries at the start of each episode. (Soap operas don't count because the characters slowly explain the context of each scene as it unfolds and characters make decisions based solely on emotion.)
 

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Ok this won't go anywhere, please resume regular programming :lol:

He just meant gothic horror.... I think. Bram Stoker, Mary Shelley etc. The root of modern vampire fiction. Stoker took influence from folklore and real historical people and laid groundwork for centuries to come.
 

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24 was a turning point for longer arcs, but it had lengthy "previously on" summaries at the start of each episode.

Babylon 5 already did longer arcs almost a decade before 24 and it worked fine!

Hill Street Blues from 1981 was perhaps the originator of a non-daytime drama show with long-running plots and lengthy "previously on" recap sequences. Also Twin Peaks from 1990 which was an edgy daytime drama that aired at night. These shows tended to be outliers though, the majority of programming was one-and-done with occasional two-parters. Despite receiving a ton of critical acclaim, HSB was never a ratings hit, Twin Peaks was a hit for one season before the normies got fed up with Lynch's refusal to solve the mystery, tuned-in in droves to watch the mystery revealed early in the second season, then immediately turned it off again, and Babylon 5 was always on shaky ground which resulted in its almost-cancellation in season 4 which resulted in JMS compressing an entire year of stories in a few episodes, getting uncancelled at the last minute, and then having to tread water for that entire season because he already rushed through all his big story beats.
 

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Babylon 5 was always on shaky ground which resulted in its almost-cancellation in season 4 which resulted in JMS compressing an entire year of stories in a few episodes, getting uncancelled at the last minute, and then having to tread water for that entire season because he already rushed through all his big story beats.

Nice summary! For many Babylon 5 fans there is not fifth season, same as there are no SW sequels for many SW fans ;). Even JMS couldn't improvise that good! It's a miracle he managed to rework several actor changes of main characters (Sinclair/Sheridan, Ivanova/Lochley, Lyta/Talia and more) in the first place...
 

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He just meant gothic horror
Excuse me, are you using the word gothic as a real entity that you throw into a calculus of predicates? How quaint :lol:

First you accused me that horror is not an aesthetic without providing any arguments beyond your own whim, then I tried to explain to you the connection between loose terms like "horror" and "aesthetics" and what logic says about it, then you responded, I quote: “glhf tho.”

It's hard for me to take you seriously.
 

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Why are you geh? Should I call you mista?
I have been gone for quite a number of years, I would have assumed you do know I am one of the openly gay men here on the codex?

Now I know. And I repeat my question: Why are you gae? You put peepee in poopoo? Are you trangenda?
I don't think this is the proper thread to be discussing that.
 

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First you accused me that horror is not an aesthetic without providing any arguments beyond your own whim, then I tried to explain to you the connection between loose terms like "horror" and "aesthetics" and what logic says about it, then you responded, I quote: “glhf tho.”

It's hard for me to take you seriously.
Go ahead and re-read the posts, you might figure it out. Or not. glhf.
if there is one thing I despise it's people using language as their personal plaything. fuck off.
 

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if there is one thing I despise it's people using language as their personal plaything. fuck off.
we shall destroy that tramp shakespeare one day but until then we must bide our time
Oh no, I could have specified in creative works it's fine, all bets are off. In written communication it most certainly is not.
not good enough! next thing you know people will start learning language from 'creative works'.

all books that do not conform to Bullokar's Grammar of 1586 must be burned and their proponents shot.
 

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