Delterius
Arcane
i'm watching kindred the embraced and wow its baaaaaaad
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World of Darkness Vampire: The Masquerade – Bloodlines 2 - VTMB sequel from The Chinese Room - coming early 2025
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Visceral, right. Seems that the game made by other guys was cancelled because it wasn't visceral enough. And TSR wants to make things right, lol. Add 'visceral combat', and the game will sell well.
Some speculation: in the cancelled game, we were going to play as a thinblood. Does it mean that the player is going to be an Elder now? The trailer mentions 'an Elder who awakened', it could be the player. Because playing as a thinblood is not visceral enough.
Some speculation: in the cancelled game, we were going to play as a thinblood. Does it mean that the player is going to be an Elder now? The trailer mentions 'an Elder who awakened', it could be the player. Because playing as a thinblood is not visceral enough.
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we will play barely sired spawn, illegaly and our sire will be executed on the spot. Elder in question will be mcguffin thing in the coffin
Delterius
Arcane
its more like charmed with a vampire homebrew
Tyranicon
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So it has chicks with milfy-vibes? Nice.
Actually World of Darkness would make for some excellent television, but there's no way it would get done competently ever.
I'm imagining True Detective S1 in old WoD.
Spukrian
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Kindred the Embraced was this typical 90s jank show. Sad the main actor died so we couldn't suffer through season 2.
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Getting a vampire-themed tv show in the mid-90s (pre-Buffy) that at least tried to deal with clans, politics, and more was a win, so people watched anyway. But yeah, Melrose place but with the undead was a good summation.
jackofshadows
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At this point the only hope it'll be amusingly bad, not just bad. I strongly doubt it will, though.
Well, it's old. Probably still better than any other vampire themed tv shows.
The articles say the show was considered too complex for the general audience due to 5 clans and many characters... '90s sure were a weird place, were people really that dumb?
uh......what?
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Geek culture was only starting to hit the mainstream, so anything that wasn't spoonfed lowest common denominator was considered too complex, yeah.
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Sounds like the average daytime drama, really. Housewives could understand those things just fine.
Delterius
Arcane
Nah, the articles are wrong and so are WoD fans who talk about this show. The writing is pretty much incompetent and the pacing is atrocious. The articles probably claim that the plot was too complex because that's what the production company believed of the setting when they started adapting it. And besides, the end result is rather simple. Meanwhile WoD fans will say that the show could have been good if it used the full wealth of the setting. They are right but only incidentally. Yeah, fully utilizing the setting might have prevented some dumb decisions here and there but the problem is that dumb decisions were being made anyways. Really, the show wasn't about to adapt much of anything, it was using vampire as a source of inspiration for a stock show.
Case in point, they decided to make the prince the protagonist but needed to make him sympathetic in a straightforward way. So you have this inexplicably powerful nice guy vampire, who respects humans, who's trying to do the right thing against the odds, and I can't buy him as a mafia boss. It's also kinda funny how most of the primogen (except the bad one) live with him in the same house.
That said, the scene of a nosferatu stealing a baby in a park in broad daylight is hilarious and straight of a tabloid and I'm glad the show had it.
La vie sexuelle
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Kindred the embraced wasn’t that bad for a 90’s show. The only other vampire show I remember from that period was Forever Knight. I was a kid during the 90’s but I remember all the crap my parents were into that they would be embarrassed to admit they liked back then. Gotta remember too even HBO was young then and modern big budget shows with long running seasons and plots didn’t really start until the Sopranos.
I actually do think with the proper showrunners and plot line VTM could do better than Anne Rice’s adaptations. The IP now though has too many cooks in the kitchen and even someone who could do it right would get overridden by all the bullshit. If it was me doing it, I’d probably start a season following a new embrace of a clan and really introduce that clan’s culture and slowly tie it to the bigger setting. I also think they’d have to commit early to how exactly dark they want it to be.
I actually do think with the proper showrunners and plot line VTM could do better than Anne Rice’s adaptations. The IP now though has too many cooks in the kitchen and even someone who could do it right would get overridden by all the bullshit. If it was me doing it, I’d probably start a season following a new embrace of a clan and really introduce that clan’s culture and slowly tie it to the bigger setting. I also think they’d have to commit early to how exactly dark they want it to be.
Sure, but there's no such thing as "the aesthetics of horror".
La vie sexuelle
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Of course it is. This is what Halloween is based on.
Aesthetics is not a closed system of meanings, but rather a social sense of certain connections between ugliness and beauty.
Yes, aesthetics is a word with meaning. No, horror does not have an overarching aesthetic.
ArchAngel
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Kindred was pretty good, too bad main actor died and took the show with him.
La vie sexuelle
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Just as I said, "horror" is more sensitivity than real term. Like science-fiction, fantasy or noir. And it is this sensitivity that translates into aesthetics.
Out of those only noir has an overarching aesthetic, which relates to my point exactly, horror does not and neither do fantasy or science-fiction.
La vie sexuelle
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On the one hand, you use terms as real entities with clear boundaries, and on the other hand, you arbitrarily indicate what meets the conditions of the term and what does not.
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