World of Darkness Vampire: The Masquerade – Bloodlines 2 - VTMB sequel from The Chinese Room - coming early 2025

[Roguey]

"I wouldn't necessarily say we're continuing their work."

 

[Irxy]

Retard says this is the first time in VTM you get to play an Elder, which is horseshit and he would know it if he ever played or even just read about Redemption.

To be fair, he was talking about rpgs, not the trashy diablo clones.

 

[Herumor]

Retard says this is the first time in VTM you get to play an Elder, which is horseshit and he would know it if he ever played or even just read about Redemption.

To be fair, he was talking about rpgs, not the trashy diablo clones.

Still more of an RPG than those shitty VNs or interactive text prompts.

 

[La vie sexuelle]

The screenshots look like mass-produced Steam shovelware. However, it could always be worse. For now, I don't see anything catastrophic, and the developers look obese and slimy enough for me to trust them.

If we get an average game without a ton of DLC microtransactions, I will consider it a great victory for modern gaming.

 

[La vie sexuelle]

Let me present some examples what I mean as "mass-produced Steam shovelware" :

Visage

Ghost Watchers

The Outlast Trials

All screens looks like from one game :D

 

[Roguey]

All screens looks like from one game :D

Visage and Outlast Trials look like stock lighting-Unreal games, but Ghost Watchers does not (unsurprised to see it's Unity). This is just another game with the Unreal Look.

 

[StrongBelwas]

Indoor horror game at night looks the same as another indoor horror game at night isn't terribly shocking.
Bloodlines 2 doesn't look amazing, but it seems serviceable enough and there is some atmosphere. The real question will be the character models and if it runs acceptably for the look or we'll have another performance mess on our hands.

 

[Zombra]

And to be fair, the graphics engine and how it was used wasn't what made the first Bloodlines look cool; it was the content, especially the dark lighting which TCR is clearly taking great pains to do well here.

Not to say I wouldn't love it if B2 was made in the Source engine

 

[Theodora]

"What sort of vampire are you, and how do you hunt?"

Am I reading too much into it to think "feeding" is going to be more important / developed as a mechanic, than in the original? I want to think "hunt" is more than just code for "combat".

One of the worst aspects about the original game was the extended periods of forced combat. I'm not surprised that they use a flashy topic like combat for trailers, but if one thing doesn't endure from the original, ideally it'd be those extended but extremely repetitive dungeons.

the developers look obese and slimy enough for me to trust them.

 

[Caim]

"What sort of vampire are you, and how do you hunt?"

Am I reading too much into it to think "feeding" is going to be more important / developed as a mechanic, than in the original? I want to think "hunt" is more than just code for "combat".

I think it might have something to do with Blood Resonance, the mechanic introduced in the tabletop game's fifth edition where blood is affected by a person's mood. So if you drink by sneaking up on people you get a different effect from violently taking from them, scaring the shit out of them or offering to suck something else as well.

https://whitewolf.fandom.com/wiki/Blood_Resonance

 

[Vincente]

Am I reading too much into it to think "feeding" is going to be more important / developed as a mechanic, than in the original?

V5 has different feeding options for characters on the sheet like Alleycat (beat someone up in a dark alley and forcefully take their blood) Sandman (drink from the sleeping), Siren (seduce) and so on, it might be related to that.

I think it might have something to do with Blood Resonance

Might also.

 

[Herumor]

And to be fair, the graphics engine and how it was used wasn't what made the first Bloodlines look cool

But still, Bloodlines is still noted today for one of the best facial animations in video games. It's amazing how it stands up so well to the test of time.

 

[NecroLord]

And to be fair, the graphics engine and how it was used wasn't what made the first Bloodlines look cool

But still, Bloodlines is still noted today for one of the best facial animations in video games. It's amazing how it stands up so well to the test of time.

That and the really good voice acting really helps in making the characters feel genuine and almost alive.
Brian Mitsoda himself voices several characters and even though he's no voice actor, you can tell he was having a lot of fun.
Leonard Boyarsky voices Carson.

 

[S.H.O.D.A.N.]

But still, Bloodlines is still noted today for one of the best facial animations in video games. It's amazing how it stands up so well to the test of time.

Source did revolutionize approach to facial animations in particular.

 

[The President]

I do actually like the look of the city so far. It looks like they kept the apartment that the player character from the HSL version was in.

If you look at videos from the HSL demo you see that this is not at all the haven the player inherited there. It was more modern!

Looks like it was decorated by the guys in Fight Club, but same layout I think.

 

[RagingNomad]

Interesting that on boxes right there u can see Rostest's mark - organization of practical metrology and certification in the Russian Federation

 

[RagingNomad]

And also CTR released free plugin for Unreal to make interactive dialogue (link). Can someone explain what it can be in VtMB2 actually?
UPD: https://www.inklestudios.com/ink/ - there is link with explanation

 

[GentlemanCthulhu]

The trailer and screenshots for this game just look awful.

 

[Irxy]

Interesting that on boxes right there u can see Rostest's mark - organization of practical metrology and certification in the Russian Federation

There is a Russian text there as well - "мягко освежающая зубная паста", "a mildly refreshing toothpaste".
Guess vampires do need lots of those?

 

[RagingNomad]

Interesting that on boxes right there u can see Rostest's mark - organization of practical metrology and certification in the Russian Federation

There is a Russian text there as well - "мягко освежающая зубная паста", "a mildly refreshing toothpaste".
Guess vampires do need lots of those?

Точно, не заметил. Actually it makes sense. Must be, Vampires have bad smells from mouth

 

[Shin]

Has anyone on the Chinese Room (or Paradox for that matter) referenced Bloodlines at all and what made that game so special? All I'm seeing/reading/hearing so far is how its just another WoD game...

 

[Vincente]

Interesting that on boxes right there u can see Rostest's mark - organization of practical metrology and certification in the Russian Federation

There is a Russian text there as well - "мягко освежающая зубная паста", "a mildly refreshing toothpaste".
Guess vampires do need lots of those?

Точно, не заметил. Actually it makes sense. Must be, Vampires have bad smells from mouth

Smashed bathroom mirror, trash everywhere, possible evidence boxes on people and marked map (information), toothpaste... Makes me think that this is a Nosferatu haven and not particularly PC's.

 

[The Great Deceiver]

Plus Munch's Love and Pain (also know simply as Vampire):

 

[Vincente]

Plus Munch's Love and Pain (also know simply as Vampire):

Fun fact, this painting was also in The Asylum, near the Voerman Sisters' room!

 

[Roguey]

Has anyone on the Chinese Room (or Paradox for that matter) referenced Bloodlines at all and what made that game so special? All I'm seeing/reading/hearing so far is how its just another WoD game...

HSL did that and it didn't make what they were doing look any better.