An Ork infestation is basically impossible to get rid of short of blowing up the entire planet, meaning once your homeworld has Orks, it will never stop having Orks. Canonically Orks would overrun the galaxy if they united as one single army.
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Warhammer Warhammer 40,000: Rogue Trader Pre-Release Thread [GAME RELEASED, GO TO NEW THREAD]
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An Ork infestation is basically impossible to get rid of short of blowing up the entire planet, meaning once your homeworld has Orks, it will never stop having Orks. Canonically Orks would overrun the galaxy if they united as one single army.
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Then why do a thousand psykers need to be sacrificed to him constantly. Checkmate casterfag.
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Yeah but from what I understand if you stomp the current boss, the spore ork left over is basically fighting with stone age tech so for most of civilized world it won't matter at all. I guess except Exodites Eldar who is pre-industrial in tech so maybe some muscle bound ork that is bullet proof would prove to be a problem.
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How about tyranids. They scour the planet from biomatter to its very crust leaving barren rock behind.
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To maintain him alive and stronger. But even if every single psyker is sacrified to him. This doesn't change the fact. Your god is a psyker!!!
yeah, no wizard ever sacrificed other wizards before in the history of wizardry
Orks will pick a new boss and go on as usual, their tech is not dependent on their leader, they have a literally instinctual knowledge of how to build their stuff (their meks do at any rate).
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Here's how the Tyranid Hivemind will "win" W40k:
arrive.
arrive.
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Regarding Nids the problem is that they need biomass and suck planets dry right?
From the space battle material, is there any reason Spesh Mahreens is just not using their Exterminatus weapon on the Nids' ships? Because as I read it needs tentacle and stuff to suck things up to the big ship and one way to prevent the Nids from growing that has been done is just to bombard the planet they are near on just to reprieve them of biomass.
Why not kill the ships then?
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All the races in 40k are OP to an extent that they would represent extinction-level threats to a more conventional setting.
Except the Tau and space dwarves. I can't help but think that the Leagues are too... bland(?). Unless more comes out, it seems like they're just fantasy dwarfs with all the cool stuff stripped out.
Missed an opportunity just to make them a race of chem-fueled slayers tbh.
Except the Tau and space dwarves. I can't help but think that the Leagues are too... bland(?). Unless more comes out, it seems like they're just fantasy dwarfs with all the cool stuff stripped out.
Missed an opportunity just to make them a race of chem-fueled slayers tbh.
You're not the only one, I think the nu-squats look incredibly fucking boring, with the exception of maybe 2 minis but they just look like dwarf marines.
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The Beast still wasn't even anywhere near how strong the orks can potentially be, gives one an idea of how crazy the original orks were when the old ones made them.
And that's why necrons needed those crazily stupidly OP weapons to win their war, and even then it broke the galaxy as enslavers and other lovely mind horrors poured through the tears in reality to feed on everyone's delicious sentience.
This is also why imo necrons don't typically use their super OP weapons even for those factions who still have them: not only are they stupidly overkill to use just to flex on some primitives but the consequences of using them likely ain't worth it.
For that holomap where you can just destroy stars with the click of a button for example, ok, you stomped out the equivalent of an ant hill, and the ensuing death has not only repercussions in the warp but the light show attracted another tyranid tendril or maybe something even worst, GJ!
As for the Emperor dieing... Assuming that he doesn't become his own sort of warp entity then really this will just be the Old Night v2.0. Which isn't a win condition for chaos mostly because the chaos gods benefit way more from the iom in its current form then they do without it, and a defeated IoM leaves the door open for tyranids to swoop in unchallenged.
And yeah new space dorfs are boring, i never understood what the problem was with the squats being "funny looking", at least it gave them character rather then being DRG knockoffs.
And that's why necrons needed those crazily stupidly OP weapons to win their war, and even then it broke the galaxy as enslavers and other lovely mind horrors poured through the tears in reality to feed on everyone's delicious sentience.
This is also why imo necrons don't typically use their super OP weapons even for those factions who still have them: not only are they stupidly overkill to use just to flex on some primitives but the consequences of using them likely ain't worth it.
For that holomap where you can just destroy stars with the click of a button for example, ok, you stomped out the equivalent of an ant hill, and the ensuing death has not only repercussions in the warp but the light show attracted another tyranid tendril or maybe something even worst, GJ!
Yeah it's a safe bet so long as they are sentient beings in the galaxy, chaos will always live on in some form. The only real way to defeat chaos is to either starve them out completely or seal the warp from reality (so a tyranid or necron win) or to reset the warp to factory settings.
As for the Emperor dieing... Assuming that he doesn't become his own sort of warp entity then really this will just be the Old Night v2.0. Which isn't a win condition for chaos mostly because the chaos gods benefit way more from the iom in its current form then they do without it, and a defeated IoM leaves the door open for tyranids to swoop in unchallenged.
And yeah new space dorfs are boring, i never understood what the problem was with the squats being "funny looking", at least it gave them character rather then being DRG knockoffs.
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There's different exterminatus weapons, I'm fairly sure most of them are not that useful in space, i.e., need an atmosphere.
Also: too many nids.
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Weapons in 40k scale in strength according to writer/game balance/fuckery, not due to logic.
Logically, there's no reason why the nu-Necrons (who fought the War in Heaven against the Old Farts, and pokemoned the c'tan) don't just simply kill everyone, Chaos included.
40k is a setting where the status quo matters most, so GW can keep selling plastic bits.
People keep saying "oh what if 40k invades Stars War/Star Trek" low hanging fruit, and I'm like bitch, what if The Culture invades 40k.
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40k, traditionally, follows a simple rule: the galaxy is so vast it cannot be counted and effects are generally very local.
The Necrons have a weapon that can blow up a planet at a whim? Okay. They do that. No-one, except the people on that planet, notices. In a little bit neighbouring systems will notice that communications and tithes have ceased, and might go check it out. Eventually the Administratum will get a message stating "Planet destroyed. Update records". A few decades later, the records are updated.
This is the spirit of the original Rogue Trader; a galaxy so huge that you could see or do horrible things, but on the scale of the galaxy as a whole, you've affected only a tiny bit. Over the years, ad I've mentioned, the setting got shrunk to what GW had models for. This is what owlcat is aiming for; you're a big player, but only in your small pond of the Koronus Expanse. And there are other big players around.
The Necrons have a weapon that can blow up a planet at a whim? Okay. They do that. No-one, except the people on that planet, notices. In a little bit neighbouring systems will notice that communications and tithes have ceased, and might go check it out. Eventually the Administratum will get a message stating "Planet destroyed. Update records". A few decades later, the records are updated.
This is the spirit of the original Rogue Trader; a galaxy so huge that you could see or do horrible things, but on the scale of the galaxy as a whole, you've affected only a tiny bit. Over the years, ad I've mentioned, the setting got shrunk to what GW had models for. This is what owlcat is aiming for; you're a big player, but only in your small pond of the Koronus Expanse. And there are other big players around.
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This is exactly what a butthurt psyker would say
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Or it's an average night in Slaanesh's realm. Or the Rock
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Was a complete shit show of a story and best forgotten
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The World Engine?
That's probably just the tip of the iceberg when it comes to Necrons. Who knows what else they have.
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A lot of IF here while you shit on Necrons without using any IF. Then lets says IF Necron leader returns and unifies them (read: take control of them again), they will shit on everyone.
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That new faction is really dumb, yep. They were supposed to be a fucked up death cult that was meant to kill every eldar to summon a warp god to kill the previous warp god they spawned into existence, and see nothing wrong with that plan. Now though it sounds like an excuse to unify all eldar into one banner (because it is).
In before Age of Sigmar 2.0.
Supposedly Men of Iron, aka discount mass produced Terminators, went rogue and caused a Dune against humies.
There are rumors that the Eldar made the formerly controlled not-Terminators that humies had go crazy and thus destroy the human faction, because they saw them as a potential threat or because they could.
Other (dumb) rumors say that these kill-bots went crazy because apparently one of their components was shaped as a star and that was enough for them to be chaotically possessed.
I read another (and saner) theory that he repurposed them instead as SM.
To be fair, most of the current alien races are lol-evil and deserve it.
Bolter Bitches can marry, actually.
I would like it if being a good buddy with the eldar follower ends up with her inevitably betraying you anyway, because that's what they do. They're arrogant to the point of stupidity.
Agreed, although Dark Age Tech is also stupid crazy, such as teleporting projectiles into enemies or so I read.
Weren't Baneblades supposed to be DAoT light tanks?
Dumb thing that shouldn't exist, as it made Orks into Alien Space Marines.
IIRC orks were dangerous because they used to have "brainies" that allowed the Old Ones to control them with precise moves.
I would say that if you killed all of Chaos' followers, and stomped down on any extreme acts of evilness and/or debauchery, the Chaos Gods would indeed starve to death.
A "normal" life can't satisfy them.
But it depends on the writer. In the first edition eldar could ally with humies and even interbreed, supposedly.
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An example of the lore universe constantly being downscaled is the T'au even being worth mentioning altogether. They have something like 100 developed worlds, the IOM has countless worlds in the truest sense of the word countless.
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What?
Don't they all take a Vow of Celibacy?
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