Warhammer Warhammer 40,000: Rogue Trader Pre-Release Thread [GAME RELEASED, GO TO NEW THREAD]

[Reinhardt]

It would be fair to call them space Russians, wouldn’t you say?

we already have it. it's called imperium.

 

[Tyranicon]

The difference between space dwarfs and space tomb kings... is that I like the sound of space dwarfs.

Bring on the book of space grudges.

 

[Harthwain]

Nihil novi sub sole. I was mostly just trying to translate Warhammer fantasy Dwarfs (grudges, mountain keeps) into 40k.

Deep Rock Galactic is great portrayal of sci-fi Dwarves.

 

[Tyranicon]

Nihil novi sub sole. I was mostly just trying to translate Warhammer fantasy Dwarfs (grudges, mountain keeps) into 40k.

Deep Rock Galactic is great portrayal of sci-fi Dwarves.

I wish the Leagues were grimdark hyper-capitalists that really hate the Tau and the Imperium. Retcon the Duegar (or however you spell it) into a splinter faction that allies with the Tau because they love communism. But the main body of the League just ruthlessly exploits the galaxy for monetary gain. Give em giant machines that frak entire planets. Let them have gucci weapons from the dark age of technology. Let them enslave the Eldar to do space magic.

Come on GW, do something cool.

 

[CthuluIsSpy]

Yes, because as we all know, the Egyptians totally had a modern pop culture depiction of the Grim Reaper in their myths.

Is this supposed to be thinly veiled sarcasm?

Yes? Which hieroglyph depicts the grim reaper, complete with scythe and cloak?

Definitely going to go with the sarcasm here.

Sure, there is a C´tan Nightbringer who likes to LARP as Grim Reapper. Than you also have current Necrons who are organised into dynasties with names like Sautekh, who are ruled by Phaerons named like Imotekh or Ahmontekh who are buried in pyramids where they are attended by specialist constructs called Canoptek machines... and I could go on.

The current Necrons literaly are and are meant to be space Egyptians and it doesnt matter that there is also a dude with scythe hanging our with them. This is a general approach that GW takes with a lot of factions, ie having them reflect a certain culture or historical faction with a bit of a twist - so you have Black Templars being Teutonic Knights in space even though the real Teutonic Knights didnt have chain swords and tanks.

As a paralel lets say you had a race whose rulers would be called Czars, would have names like Ivan Davidovch Fedorovekh, would live inside massive armored zemlyanka´s and drink a lot of hard alcohol. It would be fair to call them space Russians, wouldn’t you say?

Well, yes, that's what they are like now.
The necrons prior to Ward's handling of the fluff weren't quite as heavy handed with the Egypt references. They were more the concept of death and different cultures perception of it than just Egypt. The only "Egyptian" thing about them was the mortuary cult, which is a well known part about Egyptian civilization but hardly the only aspect of them.
Necron Lords were just called Lords. This whole Phaeron and -tek thing is something that was introduced later in 5th ed, which also drastically rewrote the Necron relationship with the C'tan.

I'm not saying the current Necrons aren't Egypt In Space.
They are, and it's flanderized shit.

I mean, FFS the crypteks have elongated chins that ape Egyptian sarcophagi, and it looks stupid.
Also, fuck the arks, terribly designed model sets.

 

[Storyfag]

Come on GW, do something cool.

 

[fantadomat]

Hmm makes me feel like westoids could only remake culture. Warhammer is the mid ages of evropa,even the races are put in similar places. While DnD is larp play of old greek mythology,latter added other mythologies. It is sad how for 2000 years we can't even create a new culture.

 

[Modron]

If only the west could be as creative as Bulgarians.

 

[fantadomat]

If only the west could be as creative as Bulgarians.

Sure thing mate,enjoy your cultural extermination while abdul and jamal have turns with your wifu.

 

[Modron]

You were implying the west could only remake stuff I was asking what Bulgars are making/have made. Of course you delve straight into your fantasies.

 

[Cryomancer]

The rogue trader idea seems interesting, but I think that an RPG set in the age of strife, in a relative isolated planet with crazy psykers, chaos cultists and xenos fighting for the control while the few remanents of humanity is hidden underground engaging a unfair guerrilla warfare would be even better.

Or an warhammer fantasy CRPG

 

[Trithne]

Nihil novi sub sole. I was mostly just trying to translate Warhammer fantasy Dwarfs (grudges, mountain keeps) into 40k.

Deep Rock Galactic is great portrayal of sci-fi Dwarves.

I wish the Leagues were grimdark hyper-capitalists that really hate the Tau and the Imperium. Retcon the Duegar (or however you spell it) into a splinter faction that allies with the Tau because they love communism. But the main body of the League just ruthlessly exploits the galaxy for monetary gain. Give em giant machines that frak entire planets. Let them have gucci weapons from the dark age of technology. Let them enslave the Eldar to do space magic.

Come on GW, do something cool.

It seems we're generally all in agreement the Squats should've been some sort of space Hanseatic League at least.

And if you're writing this before the grimderpending, you've got a lot of space for "The Imperium tolerates the presence of Squat outposts in its territory" for various reasons, and then on the next page a sidebar of how the Squats stole a colony because they defaulted on their repayments.

 

[Aarwolf]

Btw, is there something to take the place of Alignment in this game? i.e. reputation or something similar?

You have reputation with four factions, but it didn't do much throughout the alpha.

You can increase your standing with them via quests and colony projects done in their favour, but these are mostly tier 3, which I didn't manage to do due to the lack of resources.

By the way I do like Argenta's and Heinrix's combat lines and it appeares that they are taken straight from the Warhammer 40k rulebook. I got my hands on 8th edition rulebook today and it has flavour oneliners at the bottom of each page. Some of them are now the lines spoken by these two characters, which is a nice touch.

 

[ERYFKRAD]

The rogue trader idea seems interesting, but I think that an RPG set in the age of strife, in a relative isolated planet with crazy psykers, chaos cultists and xenos fighting for the control while the few remanents of humanity is hidden underground engaging a unfair guerrilla warfare would be even better.

Or an warhammer fantasy CRPG

Just play xcom 2

 

[Skdursh]

The adventurous may be interested to know that you can now find something interesting over on Rutracker...

 

[Reinhardt]

The rogue trader idea seems interesting, but I think that an RPG set in the age of strife, in a relative isolated planet with crazy psykers, chaos cultists and xenos fighting for the control while the few remanents of humanity is hidden underground engaging a unfair guerrilla warfare would be even better.

Or an warhammer fantasy CRPG

you still don't understand setting. rogue trader can sometimes deal with xenos because of his high position. regular human can't do this "work for reputation with different factions". you either loyalist or convert. or just die, if you meet xenos.
if your planet THAT much infested there is no point in your guerilla, except dying with dignity. imperium most likely wrote it off already, if it's not uber-important forge world or something like that.

 

[mediocrepoet]

The rogue trader idea seems interesting, but I think that an RPG set in the age of strife, in a relative isolated planet with crazy psykers, chaos cultists and xenos fighting for the control while the few remanents of humanity is hidden underground engaging a unfair guerrilla warfare would be even better.

Or an warhammer fantasy CRPG

Completely agreed. They should do this where you're unable to have any psykers/mages of any stripe so you can really get into the dark grittiness of the settings and realize how entirely fucked you are as the last bastion of humanity with the enemy within already taking hold.

 

[Peachcurl]

You could do that "hopeless last stand" thingy even in 40k warhammer, no need for age of strife.

Also, Warhammer Fantasy is boring. :/

 

[Reinhardt]

You could do that "hopeless last stand" thingy even in 40k warhammer

point is it's really hopeless. no astartes drop pods in the last minute.

 

[mediocrepoet]

You could do that "hopeless last stand" thingy even in 40k warhammer

point is it's really hopeless. no astartes drop pods in the last minute.

Chaos is flooding in from the poles. Where exactly are you going? WHF has a finite amount of land.

 

[Reinhardt]

good description was in one of the gaunt's ghost books. something like "gates closed before they could reach them, last stand, killed many enemies, no one seen their deaths."

 

[Peachcurl]

You could do that "hopeless last stand" thingy even in 40k warhammer

point is it's really hopeless. no astartes drop pods in the last minute.

There's always hope, even without astartes. Age of strife provides a huge bag of deus ex machina endings.

See also: emperor of mankind.

 

[Reinhardt]

even if help comes in the end you were exposed to chaos shit for too long. better not take any risks.

 

[mediocrepoet]

You could do that "hopeless last stand" thingy even in 40k warhammer

point is it's really hopeless. no astartes drop pods in the last minute.

There's always hope, even without astartes. Age of strife provides a huge bag of deus ex machina endings.

See also: emperor of mankind.

I haven't kept up with WHF in ages. But I kinda/sorta know what Age of Sigmar is. Did they introduce the 40k Emperor in it?

 

[Peachcurl]

You could do that "hopeless last stand" thingy even in 40k warhammer

point is it's really hopeless. no astartes drop pods in the last minute.

There's always hope, even without astartes. Age of strife provides a huge bag of deus ex machina endings.

See also: emperor of mankind.

I haven't kept up with WHF in ages. But I kinda/sorta know what Age of Sigmar is. Did they introduce the 40k Emperor in it?

I dunno alot about Age of Sigmar, the premise never interested me alot. Has nothing to do with W40k though, or Age of Strife. Age of Sigmar is a separate setting? Or some sort of offshoot of Warhammer fantasy? I don't remember the specifics.

But yes, the Emperor took over Terra in the Age of Strife (though he may have been alive much longer), which kinda marks the end of that age.