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Warhammer Warhammer 40,000: Rogue Trader Pre-Release Thread [GAME RELEASED, GO TO NEW THREAD]

BrotherFrank

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Be tau, have no idea how big the IoM is and that they own pretty much every star in the sky they can see. Get their mind blown by how a single hive city has more population then their entire civilization, didn't believe titans were real until one started stomping all over them. Actually trusting dark eldar.

Also tau: conquer said hive city in a single day because GW writers cannot into scale, "crack" the codex astartes and thus are able to predict astartes movements forever with better accuracy then eldar farseers as long as they ain't ultramarines. And as that extract involving Cato at his chaddest shows, despite tau knowing next to nothing about the wider galaxy their civilians are perfectly knowledgeable about the customs and mannerisms of Maccragians because of course they are, that tau thot deserves the stomping she got.

Fuck tau, GW's writing is all over the place by default but it gets particularly bad whenever tau are involved, they have more fluctuating power levels then even astartes as in one story the tau are tactical geniuses out stealthing raven guard but then in another story shadowsun gets her entire column ambushed and wrecked by catachans (though it is fun to picture catachans crawling up tau riptides like ants and ripping out the terrified crew whilst the rest of the catachan ambush force pwns a hyper advanced gunline with copious amounts of flame throwers and glorious melee).
 

Trithne

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Fuck tau, GW's writing is all over the place by default but it gets particularly bad whenever tau are involved

That's because Tau fundamentally don't belong in 40k.
I always felt the "big guns big robots loves technology faction" should've been the return of the Squats. You could've also avoided the "This faction only exists in a small pocket of the galaxy and we have to justify them getting involved with anyone else" issue by having Squat enclaves all over the place.

Dwarf battlemechs > the weird Tau shit.

It was a conversion army I planned to make back in the day but too expensive.



Not sold on this character creation.


Half of that's probably just Alpha shit, given that the Alpha starts you at level 15 and through the "tutorial" segment. How this man made a nearly half hour video out of four menu options I'll never understand.
 

ArchAngel

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Imagine living on Catachan.
With no weapons...
Anyway, Parsimonious cook is right.
Citizens should be able to hold and operate some weaponry. Remember, this is a setting where pretty much every other non human being in the galaxy wants to murderfuckrape you with extreme prejudice.
I think most citizens never see any of these non humans. They have more chance dying to human criminals, chaos cultists or random Inquisitors. Or just being overworked to death.
 

Tyranicon

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IMO the Tau, nu-Necrons and possibly the nu-squats all don't really fit 40k.

The Tau are hilariously mismatched: they're anime japs in space, who can't do melee well for some reason (despite having the tech to rig something up easily). If you wanted the weeb audience, give em katanas and gundam swords.

Nu-Necrons are basically just Tomb Kings. Yeah, there are differences. No, they're not really significant (besides Tomb Kings being vastly cooler). And they retconned the C'tan into pokemon.

The Leagues are basically just.... Deep Rock Galatic? I read their lore and honestly, it's really bland. We don't have the character of the Fantasy Dwarfs, and the only possibly interesting thing is that their Ancestor Cores might be abominable intelligence left over from the dark age.

40k's best parts are all the human factions, whereas Fantasy has all the cool alien/monster races.

Orks, of course, remain cool in both.
 

Cryomancer

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What about civilian gun ownership in the imperium? Can civilians own "sci fi" pistols? Rifles? Armored vehicles? spaceships & cannons?
With all the hive gangs going apeshit, yeah, probably.
Just not any advanced imperial gear and weaponry, that's for sure.

Every single narco state in the world has strict gun laws. Anyway, the imperium already seems less tyrannical than most modern social democrats.
 

Trithne

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What about civilian gun ownership in the imperium? Can civilians own "sci fi" pistols? Rifles? Armored vehicles? spaceships & cannons?
With all the hive gangs going apeshit, yeah, probably.
Just not any advanced imperial gear and weaponry, that's for sure.

Every single narco state in the world has strict gun laws. Anyway, the imperium already seems less tyrannical than most modern social democrats.
The "Imperium" is a collective of planets that more or less run themselves. Within that scope there are cyberpunk cityworlds rife with gang warfare, neo-feudal backwaters, iron-fisted tyrannies, decadent pleasure worlds with philosophers eating grapes, rigidly ordered factory planets, secret research bases, and probably a few worlds where the people there 'vote' on who runs the planet.

As long as these planets pay the requisite Imperial Tithe, the Imperium as a whole doesn't care how they run.

Btw, is there something to take the place of Alignment in this game? i.e. reputation or something similar?

While not as straightfoward as Alignment, there's a lot of implications of tracking what you do, and your party options are pretty obviously split along die-hard Imperial loyalists and more pragmatic individualists, so you'll probably have to pick a side or toe the line very carefully. It's basically the classical Inquisitor Puritan-Radical axis.

IMO the Tau, nu-Necrons and possibly the nu-squats all don't really fit 40k.

The Tau are hilariously mismatched: they're anime japs in space, who can't do melee well for some reason (despite having the tech to rig something up easily). If you wanted the weeb audience, give em katanas and gundam swords.

Nu-Necrons are basically just Tomb Kings. Yeah, there are differences. No, they're not really significant (besides Tomb Kings being vastly cooler). And they retconned the C'tan into pokemon.

The Leagues are basically just.... Deep Rock Galatic? I read their lore and honestly, it's really bland. We don't have the character of the Fantasy Dwarfs, and the only possibly interesting thing is that their Ancestor Cores might be abominable intelligence left over from the dark age.

40k's best parts are all the human factions, whereas Fantasy has all the cool alien/monster races.

Orks, of course, remain cool in both.

Nu-Squats are such a disappointment - They have no character, nothing to make them stand out. They don't even look short.
 

Reinhardt

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The "Imperium" is a collective of planets that more or less run themselves. Within that scope there are cyberpunk cityworlds rife with gang warfare, neo-feudal backwaters, iron-fisted tyrannies, decadent pleasure worlds with philosophers eating grapes, rigidly ordered factory planets, secret research bases, and probably a few worlds where the people there 'vote' on who runs the planet.
btw tau thot was fucked again.

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Glory to Ukraine
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There are no Tau in the Koronus Expanse and since there seem to be no Orks in the game there sure as fuck wont be Tau. Koronus Expanse does have some presence of Kroot mercenaries and tbh fam I would love to see them in game, they are p. cool - though even that is not likely.
 

Tyranicon

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Another reason that Ciaphas Cain is a chad is that he says no to xenos pussy.

He goes and fucks an inquisitor instead.

I think this is fanart and not official, but still, matches the book description more or less.

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