Warhammer Warhammer 40,000: Rogue Trader Pre-Release Thread [GAME RELEASED, GO TO NEW THREAD]

[Joyvankek]

Please make it a bit more in-depth than literally any of the late game mythic paths in Wrathfinder, you half assed those ones you gotta admit.

If you mean the prestige ones, like the Devil or Golden Dragon, then I do agree.
I get it that maybe they were out of time one some of those, to some extend that's fair enough. I didn't feel like anything was cut out and resold later on from the base game.
But they could expand on them in an expansion which I would buy, I would be less welcoming to a DLC shit, but it would still be better than the DLCs we got.

Owlcat really have their priorities wrong when making DLCs. They should focus more on expanding, on what we already have instead of making bunch of smaller unrelated campaigns.
At least that's my opinion on the matter.

 

[Infinitron]

If I had a virus nuke in my pants ship I would bring it up at every opportunity. Could we get some funny dialogue options to threaten people with said nukes?

Owlcat really have their priorities wrong when making DLCs. They should focus more on expanding, on what we already have

Many Codexers hate this.

 

[Humbaba]

But they could expand on them in an expansion which I would buy, I would be less welcoming to a DLC shit, but it would still be better than the DLCs we got.

Yeah but then those late game paths should just become full game paths and maybe we can be mythic level 10 for more than 5 minutes.

Owlcat really have their priorities wrong when making DLCs. They should focus more on expanding, on what we already have instead of making bunch of smaller unrelated campaigns.
At least that's my opinion on the matter.

They still haven't given us the follow up campaign DLC and I'm still pissed about that.

 

[santino27]

Owlcat really have their priorities wrong when making DLCs. They should focus more on expanding, on what we already have

Many Codexers hate this.

If they hadn't been half-assed to start with, there wouldn't need to now be DLC to improve them.

 

[Storyfag]

As a Rogue Trader, especially one who(if our PC will follow that path) works closely with Inquisition, sooner or later our PC will encounter a world beyond saving. Where the only salvation will be an Exterminatus.
It's both testament to how far IoM is willing to go if they can't win by normal means and how much power a Rogue Trader have to issue such an order. Not to mention that it will illustrate what ordinance a Rogue Trader Cruiser have.

How about: no?
A Rogue Trader should not be able to declare Exterminatus. That is for Inquisitors, Space Marine Chapter Masters and the like. Somewhat higher on the totem pole.
Likewise, a mere trade cruiser should not carry ordinance reserved for warships, and capital ones at that.

 

[Joyvankek]

As a Rogue Trader, especially one who(if our PC will follow that path) works closely with Inquisition, sooner or later our PC will encounter a world beyond saving. Where the only salvation will be an Exterminatus.
It's both testament to how far IoM is willing to go if they can't win by normal means and how much power a Rogue Trader have to issue such an order. Not to mention that it will illustrate what ordinance a Rogue Trader Cruiser have.

How about: no?
A Rogue Trader should not be able to declare Exterminatus. That is for Inquisitors, Space Marine Chapter Masters and the like. Somewhat higher on the totem pole.
Likewise, a mere trade cruiser should not carry ordinance reserved for warships, and capital ones at that.

1. Your PC is working closely with Inquisition, hence if situation requires it he could get the authorization he needs.
2. Creed, the governor of Cadia greenlighted an Exterminatus. So you have precedence of somebody other than Inquisitor, Lord High Admiral or Chapter Master declaring it. I agree that there should be consequences to that, and our PC should be investigated, if he would do it without proper authorization from an Inquisitor.
3. Rogue Trader Cruisers are not your common trade ships, though what ship RT have may vary. https://warhammer40k.fandom.com/wiki/Rogue_Trader_Cruiser On top of that it's not easy to get something like virus bomb, cyclonic torpedo or other Exterminatus capable exotic weapon, you would still need to get it from someone on top levels of IoM hierarchy.
4. I don't think you know what a proper warship of IoM is and those are rare as fuck, some of them even have weapons from DAO. If I remember right everything from light cruisers and up is capable of Exterminatus

 

[Trithne]

The authority to declare a planet Exterminatus is exclusive to members of the Inquisition. Anyone else who does so is either lying, or the victim of shit writers.

Of course, if you have a suitable weapon available to you such as a cyclonic torpedo, it's a moot point to the denizens of the planet whether you got legal authority to use it first.

Also, even Inquisitors have to justify their use of Exterminatus to the rest of the Inquisition, although generally after the fact. Inquisitors found to have abused this power are not around for long.

The setting is not as pants on head retarded as people make it out to be, it's just grim.

 

[Reinhardt]

i think we can all agree calling exterminatus on spehs elves world is right and just. only after we destroy all their ships, of course.

 

[Storyfag]

I don't think you know what a proper warship of IoM is and those are rare as fuck, some of them even have weapons from DAO. If I remember right everything from light cruisers and up is capable of Exterminatus

Bitch please.
I don't think you know what size is the RTs ship here in this game. It barely compares to escorts. So light cruisers are sort of out of its league.

 

[Longes]

Hi, guys! I'm Eyler from Owlcat games. I'll hang out with you here if you don't mind

I pity anyone who has to go to rpgcodex for work, but welcome anyway! Is this like Miyazaki's love affair with the toxic swamps?

 

[NecroLord]

only after we destroy all their ships, of course.

And fuck their women.

 

[Trithne]

i think we can all agree calling exterminatus on spehs elves world is right and just. only after we destroy all their ships, of course.

It's not Exterminatus when it's not a human world. It's just business.

 

[Reinhardt]

i think we can all agree calling exterminatus on spehs elves world is right and just. only after we destroy all their ships, of course.

It's not Exterminatus when it's not a human world. It's just business.

every world is human world

 

[Owlcat_Eyler]

Owlcat_Eyler Can I ask how in depth are you going to go with the chaos path

No spoilers from me, but... quite deep, I suppose

 

[Cyberarmy]

 

[Joyvankek]

I don't think you know what a proper warship of IoM is and those are rare as fuck, some of them even have weapons from DAO. If I remember right everything from light cruisers and up is capable of Exterminatus

Bitch please.
I don't think you know what size is the RTs ship here in this game. It barely compares to escorts. So light cruisers are sort of out of its league.

That's fair, the one we have in Alpha doesn't look like it's cruiser class.
I do hope that won't be the final ship we have, because if so then well... Then Owlcat missed the mark on that one.

The authority to declare a planet Exterminatus is exclusive to members of the Inquisition. Anyone else who does so is either lying, or the victim of shit writers.

Of course, if you have a suitable weapon available to you such as a cyclonic torpedo, it's a moot point to the denizens of the planet whether you got legal authority to use it first.

Also, even Inquisitors have to justify their use of Exterminatus to the rest of the Inquisition, although generally after the fact. Inquisitors found to have abused this power are not around for long.

The setting is not as pants on head retarded as people make it out to be, it's just grim.

It is not, and that was already explained in this thread. If you want to go with your own head cannon then be my guest but don't spew that bullshit as true to the lore.
It make sense to have Lord High Admiral, a commander of the whole segmentum's Imperial Navy to be able to do so, same with his IG equivalent. That makes it like 10 people other than Inquisition.
Chapter Masters having that right is a step too far in my opinion. Especially with the limited trust of other IoM armies and organizations towards SM after the HH.
There is even an ordo of Inquisition dedicated to check if Exterminatus was really the only option and not just power tripping Inquisitor. IoM is not as retarded as memes make them to be that is true, and they don't just go around blowing up their own worlds. nobody will declare an Exterminatus until all the other options are exhausted.

 

[Reinhardt]

 

[skaraher]

Exterminatus are done by whole fleets or selected specialized vessels (Astartes battle barge) they were never rogue trader prerogative and a RT isnt supposed to commandeer large war fleets. Nu-40k lorelets sure are embarassing.

 

[Owlcat_Eyler]

Nonono, no heresy here, everything is fine. For the Emperor and so on

 

[mediocrepoet]

I don't think you know what a proper warship of IoM is and those are rare as fuck, some of them even have weapons from DAO. If I remember right everything from light cruisers and up is capable of Exterminatus

Bitch please.
I don't think you know what size is the RTs ship here in this game. It barely compares to escorts. So light cruisers are sort of out of its league.

That's fair, the one we have in Alpha doesn't look like it's cruiser class.
I do hope that won't be the final ship we have, because if so then well... Then Owlcat missed the mark on that one.

Oh I don't know. If you have too many resources, there's not much point to rolling around in an RPG adventure, despite the nerdgasm thought of having a personal Death Star, it's likely not something that's conducive to making a good RPG.

 

[Heroic Liberator]

 

[NecroLord]

Is that a Legion of the Damned marine? Saving small children?
That's.... interesting.

 

[Reinhardt]

 

[ArchAngel]

BTW if anyone feels like shooting some cultists in old style goodness check this out:

 

[Joyvankek]

I don't think you know what a proper warship of IoM is and those are rare as fuck, some of them even have weapons from DAO. If I remember right everything from light cruisers and up is capable of Exterminatus

Bitch please.
I don't think you know what size is the RTs ship here in this game. It barely compares to escorts. So light cruisers are sort of out of its league.

That's fair, the one we have in Alpha doesn't look like it's cruiser class.
I do hope that won't be the final ship we have, because if so then well... Then Owlcat missed the mark on that one.

Oh I don't know. If you have too many resources, there's not much point to rolling around in an RPG adventure, despite the nerdgasm thought of having a personal Death Star, it's likely not something that's conducive to making a good RPG.

It's not even about that, you constantly fighting pirates, chaos and other fleets that also send escorts at you. While you have but 1 ship at your disposal.
It's kind of meh that a buch of pirates, with not even half of your resources and connections have equipment similar to yours.
In my opinion, you at least should have something that set you apart from them as Rogue Trader.

We aren't talking about fielding similar force to IN's battlegroup, but you should at least be able to outgun and outgear your common pirates and have some chance against minor xeno forces.