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[Longes]

What is Owlcat Studio stance on the Russo-Ukrainian war? The only Russian that is gonna get my money is one who demonstrated at least lukewarm oposition to the invasion. Sorry for being an asshole about it, I know regular Russian people have no say in these matters but on the other hand it’s their country so they have to be held to some minimal responsibility.

Based on the latest news Owlcat Studio is so much not Russian that they refused to talk with a reporter for a Russian gaming publication iXBT, at the WN '23 conference in Istanbul.

 

[Harthwain]

What is Owlcat Studio stance on the Russo-Ukrainian war? The only Russian that is gonna get my money is one who demonstrated at least lukewarm oposition to the invasion. Sorry for being an asshole about it, I know regular Russian people have no say in these matters but on the other hand it’s their country so they have to be held to some minimal responsibility.

Great question. Because talking about the war is so relevant to the game...

 

[Infinitron]

Owlcat is a Cyprus company.

Surprisingly it's not just an accounting trick, at least some of the developers actually live in Cyprus now.

 

[Joyvankek]

What is Owlcat Studio stance on the Russo-Ukrainian war? The only Russian that is gonna get my money is one who demonstrated at least lukewarm oposition to the invasion. Sorry for being an asshole about it, I know regular Russian people have no say in these matters but on the other hand it’s their country so they have to be held to some minimal responsibility.

Do you happen to have ukrainian flag in you twatter's profile pic as well?
I don't get it. Yeah I want ziggers to fuck off back to their country, since... you know... my country is next door to ukraine. But what exactly boycotting an unrelated company that's just wanting to make games will achieve is beyond me.
Especially since they pay their taxes in Cyprus, so the new iteration of stalin don't even get any shekels out of it.

 

[MartinK]

What is Owlcat Studio stance on the Russo-Ukrainian war? The only Russian that is gonna get my money is one who demonstrated at least lukewarm oposition to the invasion. Sorry for being an asshole about it, I know regular Russian people have no say in these matters but on the other hand it’s their country so they have to be held to some minimal responsibility.

Do you happen to have ukrainian flag in you twatter's profile pic as well?
I don't get it. Yeah I want ziggers to fuck off back to their country, since... you know... my country is next door to ukraine. But what exactly boycotting an unrelated company that's just wanting to make games will achieve is beyond me.
Especially since they pay their taxes in Cyprus, so the new iteration of stalin don't even get any shekels out of it.

Because the ziggers will stay untill they are either removed by force or Russians start rioting. Boycoting their products is way to eventualy get them to riot (after a brief period of rallying around the flag) and every little bit counts.

 

[Reinhardt]

What is Owlcat Studio stance on the Russo-Ukrainian war? The only Russian that is gonna get my money is one who demonstrated at least lukewarm oposition to the invasion. Sorry for being an asshole about it, I know regular Russian people have no say in these matters but on the other hand it’s their country so they have to be held to some minimal responsibility.

Do you happen to have ukrainian flag in you twatter's profile pic as well?
I don't get it. Yeah I want ziggers to fuck off back to their country, since... you know... my country is next door to ukraine. But what exactly boycotting an unrelated company that's just wanting to make games will achieve is beyond me.
Especially since they pay their taxes in Cyprus, so the new iteration of stalin don't even get any shekels out of it.

Because the ziggers will stay untill they are either removed by force or Russians start rioting. Boycoting their products is way to eventualy get them to riot (after a brief period of rallying around the flag) and every little bit counts.

so it was you! YOU KILLED TROIKA!

 

[Cohesion]

Owlcat is a Cyprus company.

Surprisingly it's not just an accounting trick, at least some of the developers actually live in Cyprus now.

Yeah why wouldn't they relocate. Weather is good, no harsh winters. No dictatorship/authoritarian government (сесть на бутылку за пост в интернете), it's all good.

 

[CthuluIsSpy]

What is Owlcat Studio stance on the Russo-Ukrainian war? The only Russian that is gonna get my money is one who demonstrated at least lukewarm oposition to the invasion. Sorry for being an asshole about it, I know regular Russian people have no say in these matters but on the other hand it’s their country so they have to be held to some minimal responsibility.

Do you happen to have ukrainian flag in you twatter's profile pic as well?
I don't get it. Yeah I want ziggers to fuck off back to their country, since... you know... my country is next door to ukraine. But what exactly boycotting an unrelated company that's just wanting to make games will achieve is beyond me.
Especially since they pay their taxes in Cyprus, so the new iteration of stalin don't even get any shekels out of it.

Because the ziggers will stay untill they are either removed by force or Russians start rioting. Boycoting their products is way to eventualy get them to riot (after a brief period of rallying around the flag) and every little bit counts.

Funny, that's what people said when the war started and it became cool to hate Russians and boycott their companies.
One year later, and the war is still going on and Putin is still in power. Its almost as if there's a little more to ending a war than not buying video games.

 

[La vie sexuelle]

I'm not sure if somebody said something about that (probably yes), but what with writing? I'm not asking about lore schticks, a bit more about overall quality and quantity. I was turned by their last game, WoT, and countless pages of childish, teen-giggling, occasionally simply boring writing. No matter if you are dwarf, humar, assimar or a vampire, nearly nobody acknowledges this.. Also, I cannot not to mention about Anevia-Irabeth questline.
I know it's from the original campaign, but still, Owlcat, and all this knee-pandering, made this impenetrable for me. I know that for Codexers writing is not important, personally I also don't respect gaming writers graphomania (with exceptions), but, no matter if we like this or not, that is a big part of modern RPG.

So, how it looks in this game? Did escape from Paizo contracts made Owlcat writing any better?

 

[Longes]

I'm not sure if somebody said something about that (probably yes), but what with writing? I'm not asking about lore schticks, a bit more about overall quality and quantity. I was turned by their last game, WoT, and countless pages of childish, teen-giggling, occasionally simply boring writing. No matter if you are dwarf, humar, assimar or a vampire, nearly nobody acknowledges this.. Also, I cannot not to mention about Anevia-Irabeth questline.
I know it's from the original campaign, but still, Owlcat, and all this knee-pandering, made this impenetrable for me. I know that for Codexers writing is not important, personally I also don't respect gaming writers graphomania (with exceptions), but, no matter if we like this or not, that is a big part of modern RPG.

So, how it looks in this game? Did escape from Paizo contracts made Owlcat writing any better?

I mostly like it. I wish MC had more flavorful lines, your lines are mostly utilitarian, like we are playing Ultima and conversing purely through "Job? Name? Quest?"

Sister Argenta is great and multi-faceted character.
Abelard is the Kaiden Alenko of the team and about as interesting, but you can make him formally introduce you whenever you meet new people, and that alone is a good reason for keeping him.
Idira is alright, but the game is sorely lacking in the ability to talk back whenever she shits on the Imperium.

Other characters are solid, and I've had few complaints with the general writing.

Also, I'm now realizing that there are two criminals on the team and they are both black. Idira the rogue psyker, and Jae the Han Solo. Uhhhh, based?

 

[La vie sexuelle]

I mostly like it. I wish MC had more flavorful lines, your lines are mostly utilitarian, like we are playing Ultima and conversing purely through "Job? Name? Quest?"

Maybe that's better. Being rogue trader is less straightforward job than crusader.

Sister Argenta is great and multi-faceted character.
Abelard is the Kaiden Alenko of the team and about as interesting, but you can make him formally introduce you whenever you meet new people, and that alone is a good reason for keeping him.
Idira is alright, but the game is sorely lacking in the ability to talk back whenever she shits on the Imperium.

I wonder how they will work if there is Sisters of Battle player character. Space Nuns are quite fanatical.

Also, I'm now realizing that there are two criminals on the team and they are both black. Idira the rogue psyker, and Jae the Han Solo. Uhhhh, based?

Well, life makes art vivid...

 

[Longes]

I wonder how they will work if there is Sisters of Battle player character. Space Nuns are quite fanatical.

Idira and Sister Argenta shit on each other constantly.

 

[Sarkile]

What is Owlcat Studio stance on the Russo-Ukrainian war? The only Russian that is gonna get my money is one who demonstrated at least lukewarm oposition to the invasion. Sorry for being an asshole about it, I know regular Russian people have no say in these matters but on the other hand it’s their country so they have to be held to some minimal responsibility.

Damn, this is the gayest thing I've read today. Impressive during pride month.

 

[Reinhardt]

talk back whenever she shits on the Imperium.

can you just... do your commissar thing? dafug is this "talk back"?

 

[La vie sexuelle]

talk back whenever she shits on the Imperium.

can you just... do your commissar thing? dafug is this "talk back"?

Is this famous "Ludonarrative dissonance"?

 

[MartinK]

What is Owlcat Studio stance on the Russo-Ukrainian war? The only Russian that is gonna get my money is one who demonstrated at least lukewarm oposition to the invasion. Sorry for being an asshole about it, I know regular Russian people have no say in these matters but on the other hand it’s their country so they have to be held to some minimal responsibility.

Do you happen to have ukrainian flag in you twatter's profile pic as well?
I don't get it. Yeah I want ziggers to fuck off back to their country, since... you know... my country is next door to ukraine. But what exactly boycotting an unrelated company that's just wanting to make games will achieve is beyond me.
Especially since they pay their taxes in Cyprus, so the new iteration of stalin don't even get any shekels out of it.

Because the ziggers will stay untill they are either removed by force or Russians start rioting. Boycoting their products is way to eventualy get them to riot (after a brief period of rallying around the flag) and every little bit counts.

Funny, that's what people said when the war started and it became cool to hate Russians and boycott their companies.
One year later, and the war is still going on and Putin is still in power. Its almost as if there's a little more to ending a war than not buying video games.

Nobody in their right mind expected it to be over in a year. This is long efford, five more years minimum.

 

[Smashing Axe]

I wonder how they will work if there is Sisters of Battle player character. Space Nuns are quite fanatical.

Idira and Sister Argenta shit on each other constantly.

There's at least one moment where you have to order Argenta to step back. Otherwise she outright executes Idira.

 

[Joyvankek]

I wonder how they will work if there is Sisters of Battle player character. Space Nuns are quite fanatical.

Idira and Sister Argenta shit on each other constantly.

There's at least one moment where you have to order Argenta to step back. Otherwise she outright executes Idira.

Or you can do it yourself.

 

[La vie sexuelle]

I wonder how they will work if there is Sisters of Battle player character. Space Nuns are quite fanatical.

Idira and Sister Argenta shit on each other constantly.

There's at least one moment where you have to order Argenta to step back. Otherwise she outright executes Idira.

Or you can do it yourself.

Can we execute Sister Argenta?

 

[SpaceWizardz]

IIRC at the moment every companion besides Abelard, Argenta, and Pasqal have a pivotal moment (or several) where you can draw guns on them.
You can even do it to the space marine but I don't remember being able to actually kill him there.

 

[La vie sexuelle]

IIRC at the moment every companion besides Abelard, Argenta, and Pasqal have a pivotal moment (or several) where you can draw guns on them.
You can even do it to the space marine but I don't remember being able to actually kill him there.

What with Chaos path? There are hints for that?

 

[SpaceWizardz]

What with Chaos path?

No.

 

[La vie sexuelle]

What with Chaos path?

No.

So, no posibility for "Slaanesh corrupted Sister of Battle" subplot? Bummer...

 

[Tyranicon]

So, no posibility for "Slaanesh corrupted Sister of Battle" subplot? Bummer...

On one hand, I think there's only been one or two cases where a SOB actually fell to chaos corruption. They're supposed to be notoriously incorruptible.

On the other hand, if the game's popular enough there'll be plenty of fetish mods.

 

[La vie sexuelle]

So, no posibility for "Slaanesh corrupted Sister of Battle" subplot? Bummer...

On one hand, I think there's only been one or two cases where a SOB actually fell to chaos corruption. They're supposed to be notoriously incorruptible.

On the other hand, if the game's popular enough there'll be plenty of fetish mods.

Fetish mods are mostly poor quality, besides, Owlcat games are not famous for their modding community.

Let's think for a moment about possibilities - first temptations in the prologue, then rejection of heresy in the first chapter, apparent win then fall in third. All forth chapter as long way to damnation, when former sister destroys everything what she believed.
Killing former friends, overthrowing statues of the false god, hard decisions...and yes, also fetishes for embellishment! Sex is a natural fuel for story with personal conflicts.