Warhammer Warhammer 40,000: Rogue Trader Pre-Release Thread [GAME RELEASED, GO TO NEW THREAD]

[rusty_shackleford]

CRPG means Computer Role-Playing Game.
ARPGs are CRPGs.

Rusty plssssssss, we can agree that the term CRPG taken literally means jack shit but we all know what the implications are and that they're different from ARPGs, some of which aren't even PC exclusive, like Diablo itself that got a Playstation port.

 

[mediocrepoet]

Rusty pls, Diablo is not a CRPG, it's an ARPG.

CRPG means Computer Role-Playing Game.
ARPGs are CRPGs.

 

[rusty_shackleford]

Rusty pls, Diablo is not a CRPG, it's an ARPG.

CRPG means Computer Role-Playing Game.
ARPGs are CRPGs.

Seriously. Diablo is far more of an RPG than something like Dark Souls. The fact that you can attack and miss with your stats impacting how likely you are to hit or miss should be evidence enough of that.

 

[Delterius]

"classic crpg"?

classic consolized (turn based) roleplaying game

 

[mediocrepoet]

Rusty pls, Diablo is not a CRPG, it's an ARPG.

CRPG means Computer Role-Playing Game.
ARPGs are CRPGs.

Seriously. Diablo is far more of an RPG than something like Dark Souls. The fact that you can attack and miss with your stats impacting how likely you are to hit or miss should be evidence enough of that.

That's funny, I only vaguely remember saying that. I still think it's true though.

Yeah, maybe you're right, by implication, if you go back to where the stats actually mattered and it wasn't just deterministic hits based on positioning and damage numbers go up, etc.

 

[SpaceWizardz]

What game should one play to get more familiar with Warhammer 40k?
Need to get more familiar with the lore till this one comes out. (Besides there is a sale rn)

Dawn of War 1 + Expansions and Battlefleet Gothic 2 are probably the best for learning the setting, you'll end up with a good idea about most of the factions and the different dynamics/rivalries between them after those.
Mechanicus has some stellar presentation/sound design and best captures the distinctive atmosphere of the setting IMO.

 

[Humbaba]

Cmon rusty, we all know that Kingmaker is not an ARPG.

 

[rusty_shackleford]

Cmon rusty, we all know that Kingmaker is not an ARPG.

but it was ported to the playstation and that was your definition of arpg?

 

[Humbaba]

but it was ported to the playstation and that was your definition of arpg?

No rusty, we were still talking about BG and Diablo and BG never was a console game, hence Diablo predating BG means nothing because BG is the only pure COMPUTER RPG of the two. Kingmaker never entered the equation.

 

[rusty_shackleford]

and BG never was a console game,

 

[Delterius]

and BG never was a console game,

twitch based rpg

 

[Humbaba]

and BG never was a console game,

wtf I didn't know that, that looks horrible.

Anyway, we still all know what CRPG means generally speaking. If you want we can open a bigger discussion about what an RPG actually is.

 

[rusty_shackleford]

and BG never was a console game,

wtf I didn't know that, that looks horrible.

Anyway, we still all know what CRPG means generally speaking. If you want we can open a bigger discussion about what an RPG actually is.

Yes, computer.
Consoles are a form of computer.

 

[Humbaba]

Yes, computer.
Consoles are a form of computer.

So are iphones. Was Infinity Blade a CRPG?

 

[rusty_shackleford]

Yes, computer.
Consoles are a form of computer.

So are iphones. Was Infinity Blade a CRPG?

I don't know. Was it?
I'm aware of phone-exclusive games that are clearly CRPGs.
e.g.,
https://dungeoncrawlers.org/game/legacy-1-05/ & other Redshift games other than The Quest.

 

[Humbaba]

I don't know. Was it?
I'm aware of phone-exclusive games that are clearly CRPGs.
e.g.,
https://dungeoncrawlers.org/game/legacy-1-05/ & other Redshift games other than The Quest.

No, rusty, that's not a CRPG, that looks like a Blobber.

 

[Taka-Haradin puolipeikko]

Yes, computer.
Consoles are a form of computer.

So are iphones. Was Infinity Blade a CRPG?

Relatively low spec platform and/or awkward control scheme doesn't stop CRPG being CRPG.

 

[mediocrepoet]

I don't know. Was it?
I'm aware of phone-exclusive games that are clearly CRPGs.
e.g.,
https://dungeoncrawlers.org/game/legacy-1-05/ & other Redshift games other than The Quest.

No, rusty, that's not a CRPG, that looks like a Blobber.

Blobbers are a subset of CRPGs. Some might argue that they're truer CRPGs than most modern story driven nonsense.

 

[Humbaba]

I don't know. Was it?
I'm aware of phone-exclusive games that are clearly CRPGs.
e.g.,
https://dungeoncrawlers.org/game/legacy-1-05/ & other Redshift games other than The Quest.

No, rusty, that's not a CRPG, that looks like a Blobber.

Blobbers are a subset of CRPGs. Some might argue that they're truer CRPGs than most modern story driven nonsense.

 

[Lagole Gon]

possible companions

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: "F-filthy human p-pig!!! Ape! Mayfly! You can't comprehend how strong Eldar emotions are! You can't comprehend how much I... I don't... hate you..."

: "<CHARNAME>, do you think... Do you think I'm pretty? My exotic blue skin, third eye and nimble six fingers probably make me look like a freak. Ah, I never cared about this... But since I've met you... I feel things I've never felt before."

 

[Taka-Haradin puolipeikko]

I don't know. Was it?
I'm aware of phone-exclusive games that are clearly CRPGs.
e.g.,
https://dungeoncrawlers.org/game/legacy-1-05/ & other Redshift games other than The Quest.

No, rusty, that's not a CRPG, that looks like a Blobber.

Blobbers are a subset of CRPGs. Some might argue that they're truer CRPGs than most modern story driven nonsense.

You do know that you should wait for the mark to actually go for the bait before celebrating, don't you?

 

[Peachcurl]

the RPGs like Rogue Trader and Dark Heresy are great for exploring other kinds of stories. You can find a suitable setting for pretty much any type of story you want somewhere in the 40K galaxy.

I'm excited to see what owlcat does with this setting. I think a lot of 40k fans like myself aren't familiar with a "softer," more relatable side of the setting and afaik very few if any developers have tried to explore it.

One good example for W40k that doesn't directly touch the overarching war narratives are Warhammer Crime and Warhammer Horror novels (careful: not always immediately clear whether those are W40k or just the plain fantasy setting). Still pretty dark, but not part of the neverending war against the zerg/orc/space-elves/space-mummies/chaos.

For PC games, I guess that Necromunda game may fit the bill as well, tho I never played it.

 

[ArchAngel]

possible companions

Bookmark this post.

: F-filthy human p-pig!!! Ape! Mayfly! You can't comprehend how strong Eldar emotions are! You can't comprehend how much I... I don't... hate you...

: <CHARNAME>, do you think... Do you think I'm pretty? My blue skin, third eye and nimble six fingers probably make me look like a freak. Ah, I never cared about this... But since I've met you... I feel things I've never felt before.

Bah, not even Dark Eldar (Drow)!

 

[Modron]

Blobbers are a subset of CRPGs. Some might argue that they're truer CRPGs than most modern story driven nonsense.

So you're saying most JRPGs are truer CRPGs than most modern story driven nonsense since a lot of them are just dressed up Wizardriy clones?

 

[Sarathiour]

possible companions

Bookmark this post.

: F-filthy human p-pig!!! Ape! Mayfly! You can't comprehend how strong Eldar emotions are! You can't comprehend how much I... I don't... hate you...

: <CHARNAME>, do you think... Do you think I'm pretty? My blue skin, third eye and nimble six fingers probably make me look like a freak. Ah, I never cared about this... But since I've met you... I feel things I've never felt before.

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