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Warhammer Warhammer 40,000: Rogue Trader Pre-Release Thread [GAME RELEASED, GO TO NEW THREAD]

Jorus

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Eldar companion: Yrliet Lanaevyss
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https://roguetrader.owlcat.games/news/en/12

Many centuries ago, on its quest to conquer the stars, Mankind escaped the bounds of the Solar System to spread across the galaxy and bring the Emperor's word and will to its darkest reaches. But humans weren't the only ones to have found a home among the void. They encountered a multitude of alien races: villainous, enigmatic, and monstrous threats, all of which threatened Mankind’s survival. "Xenos" was the term used to describe these enemies of humanity, and the Imperium's deadly struggle against them has continued to this day, with no end in sight.

Loyal servants of the Emperor are prohibited from conducting any manner of business with aliens or their foul technologies, as the vigilant Inquisitors of the Ordo Xenos mercilessly stamp out heresy in all its forms. And even the basest of Underhive rabble have been taught since the day they were born that the alien is to be eliminated on sight. However, every rule has its exceptions. Rogue Traders are among the few servants of the Emperor who are permitted to interact with xenos, do business with them, and even tolerate aliens as part of their crew so that they may be used for the Imperium’s benefit. Yrliet Lanaevyss may be about to become one such xenos.

Yrliet is a proud Aeldari whose ancestors made journeying through the star-studded darkness their eternal calling. The children of Asuryan spend their long lives walking different Paths and perfecting their understanding of their own special calling, so that they may better fulfill their role in Aeldari society. Yrliet had been living on her planet-sized spaceship, known as a craftworld, for decades: long enough for her to grow restless and decide that her new Path was to take her to faraway and unfamiliar places. Having chosen to walk the Path of the Outcast, Yrliet left the enormous craftworld that her kin called home. She sought to blaze her own trail in a universe that would otherwise lie beyond the reach of Aeldari society, and she followed that desire to distant stars. However, new insights and experiences sometimes come at great cost – as Yrliet is about to discover.

As the darkest hour comes, Yrliet's and the Rogue Trader's paths cross and intertwine – and only the God-Emperor knows what this meeting of a xenos and a human will lead to.
 
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I already know I will nice to everybody, commit as much heresy as I can and undermine the empire efforts as much as possible without any consequence because devs are to afraid to punish the player for being stupid.
 
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I already know I will nice to everybody, commit as much heresy as I can and undermine the empire efforts as much as possible without any consequence because devs are to afraid to punish the player for being stupid.
if it's anything like wotr, they'll just redefine what evil heresy means to anything the devs disapprove of
 

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A Mechanicus RT would be awesome
I don't think mechanicus RTs exist. Mechanicus have their own sub-org for exploration/exploitation of virgin space (explorator fleets), they did not need or get trade writs when the emprah was handing them out.
 

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A Mechanicus RT would be awesome
I don't think mechanicus RTs exist. Mechanicus have their own sub-org for exploration/exploitation of virgin space (explorator fleets), they did not need or get trade writs when the emprah was handing them out.
You know, Warhammer 40k is the setting where a race has literally fucked a god into existence, so stranger things than a RT Mechanicus existing happened.
 

gerey

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(Of course, that doesn't prevent the psyker from being trained like a sanctioned psyker anyways? And the charter / warrant concept allows for pretty much any exception from the rule you might ask for, so there's that...)
On paper an Inquisitor outranks pretty much everyone in the Imperium, and they have the power to go after anyone they wish. The only authority they answer to is the Throne and each other. They can order Exterminatus at will or requisition any and all resources in the Imperium as they see fit.

Naturally, in reality, an Inquisitor is going to need to tread softy if investigating a High Lord, Rogue Trader, Space Marine chapter, Mechanicus.

In general it's a safe bet to assume that an Inquisitor, a Chapter Master and a Rogue Trader have about the same level of power - but that's deceptive. It wouldn't be the first time the Inquisition has purged whole SM chapters or RT bloodlines for heresy.

As for unsanctioned psykers, that's never really going to fly. They're going to either get executed or snatched up by the Black Ships. The RT can play cat and mouse with the Inquisition, but why bother when they can purchase the services of a sanctioned psyker, just like they purchase the services of a navigator or tech priest?
 

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On paper an Inquisitor outranks pretty much everyone in the Imperium, and they have the power to go after anyone they wish. The only authority they answer to is the Throne and each other. They can order Exterminatus at will or requisition any and all resources in the Imperium as they see fit.

Naturally, in reality, an Inquisitor is going to need to tread softy if investigating a High Lord, Rogue Trader, Space Marine chapter, Mechanicus.

In general it's a safe bet to assume that an Inquisitor, a Chapter Master and a Rogue Trader have about the same level of power - but that's deceptive. It wouldn't be the first time the Inquisition has purged whole SM chapters or RT bloodlines for heresy.
And who signed that paper?

The rights, duties and responsibilities of traders and mechanicus were written by big E himself, whereas chapter masters and inquisitors were invented after he became a vegetable.

But the Imperium of man chiefly solves it's disputes through violence; not laws or treaties, so the outcome of internal disputes come down to whichever side has the most guns. And that varies a lot depending on the situation.
 

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The rights, duties and responsibilities of traders and mechanicus were written by big E himself, whereas chapter masters and inquisitors were invented after he became a vegetable.
You've got your lore wrong. The Inquisition and Grey Knights were created when the Emperor was entombed in the Throne, but before he stopped communicating, on his direct orders. There were an unspecified number of years during which he was still active and ruling the Imperium.

He is the one that gave the Inquisition almost limitless powers. The only organization beyond their jurisdiction are the Custodes, for obvious reasons, and Mars before they ceased to be a client empire and became an Adeptus, and thus subordinate to Imperial laws.

But the Imperium of man chiefly solves it's disputes through violence; not laws or treaties, so the outcome of internal disputes come down to whichever side has the most guns. And that varies a lot depending on the situation.
Not always. There's plenty of examples in lore where Imperial factions cite jurisdiction, pull rank or reference treaties to get what they want.

So an Inquisitor is well within his rights to pull rank on pretty much anyone. Naturally, whether the other side is willing to listen depends on a lot of factors, but the Inquisition is certainly capable of leveraging as much firepower as necessary. Rogue Traders have a lot of leverage, certainly more than the average Imperial subject, but if one of them pushes too far the Inquisition has no qualms to remind them whom they ultimately serve.
 

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The rights, duties and responsibilities of traders and mechanicus were written by big E himself, whereas chapter masters and inquisitors were invented after he became a vegetable.
You've got your lore wrong. The Inquisition and Grey Knights were created when the Emperor was entombed in the Throne, but before he stopped communicating, on his direct orders. There were an unspecified number of years during which he was still active and ruling the Imperium.

He's also not the only one to specify regulations of RT charters. Afaik, every charter can be different, a select few may have been signed by the Big Guy. Probably a lot more were signed by some high lords of terra.

(and there's also minor charters which are much more regulated / less special)
 

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You've got your lore wrong. The Inquisition and Grey Knights were created when the Emperor was entombed in the Throne, but before he stopped communicating, on his direct orders. There were an unspecified number of years during which he was still active and ruling the Imperium.

He is the one that gave the Inquisition almost limitless powers. The only organization beyond their jurisdiction are the Custodes, for obvious reasons, and Mars before they ceased to be a client empire and became an Adeptus, and thus subordinate to Imperial laws.
According to the only 40k lore site I trust, the Emprah told Malcador to form the inquisition, and for its founding members he picked a dude who quickly adopted the stance that E was divine, E's hate of which is one of the primary things that led to horus heresy.

So yeah, Inquisition does not have moral authority as an Emprah blessed org. And I'm p sure the mechanicus still retains a lot of their priviliges. They have their own military orgs that don't answer to any of the imperial military orgs afaik, which the regular church and various sector governors are not allowed. (Although the church cheats with sobs). SM chapters obviously also do their own stuff a lot of the time, but those are descendants of the legions which big E founded and made primarchs to lead.

Not always. There's plenty of examples in lore where Imperial factions cite jurisdiction, pull rank or reference treaties to get what they want.
I mean yeah, you can't *just* shoot someone you're on the same side as. You need justification first. They're not barbarians.

He's also not the only one to specify regulations of RT charters. Afaik, every charter can be different, a select few may have been signed by the Big Guy. Probably a lot more were signed by some high lords of terra.
This is probably true, but the emprah did write the first ones himself, which makes Rogue Trading officially Emprah Approved.
 

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As the darkest hour comes, Yrliet's and the Rogue Trader's paths cross and intertwine – and only the God-Emperor knows what this meeting of a xenos and a human will lead to.
If the reading comp. of their fanbase is any indication, "accidental" romance flagging and seething online.
Rogue Traders have a lot of leverage, certainly more than the average Imperial subject, but if one of them pushes too far the Inquisition has no qualms to remind them whom they ultimately serve.
General rule of thumb "is the Rogue Trader currently in Imperial Space?" Otherwise it comes down to whether the Inquisitor can successfully pull off an ambush with a conversion beamer.
As for unsanctioned psykers, that's never really going to fly. They're going to either get executed or snatched up by the Black Ships. The RT can play cat and mouse with the Inquisition, but why bother when they can purchase the services of a sanctioned psyker, just like they purchase the services of a navigator or tech priest?
There's an entire two books dedicated to this concept. Either you can get a rival Inquisitor who thinks you're a heretic and chases you across the galaxy and multiple adventure packets (note: rival is generic, but one option is a Hereticus Inquisitor) or you have an entire book dedicated to the Rogue Trader being a dickass criminal making enemies of the Imperial Navy, Inquisition, and Adeptus Titanicus. These books also go into detail of what will happen to you if the Inquisition ever finds out, you're dealing in unsanctioned psykers. It's being drawn, quartered, and placed in a stasis field right before death so you'll suffer for eternity.
 

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