Game News Wasteland 2 Kickstarter Update #33: Wasteland 1 Standalone Release, New Screenshots

[Infinitron]

Of course it's less important than core things like the systems (which are shit).

What do you think is shit about the systems? I only remember about the skill list, which looked fine, and that the combat system supposedly encourages cover, flanking (at least they claimed that in that first demo they showed) and getting to high ground (I remember tuluse saying something like that). Isn't that all the tactical stuff you've been clamoring for? Or did/will it turn out to be mostly bullshit?

He doesn't like the skill list because it has useless/superfluous skills.

 

[Roguey]

Of course it's less important than core things like the systems (which are shit).

What do you think is shit about the systems? I only remember about the skill list, which looked fine, and that the combat system supposedly encourages cover, flanking (at least they claimed that in that first demo they showed) and getting to high ground (I remember tuluse saying something like that). Isn't that all the tactical stuff you've been clamoring for? Or did/will it turn out to be mostly bullshit?

He's extraordinarily upset that brute force and perception are skills instead of stat checks.

 

[Jim the Dinosaur]

I'm somehow guessing there's more to "the systems are shit" than the sillyness that is brute force, BUT I GUESS WE'LL FIND OUT WHEN EXCIDIUM ANSWERS NOW WON'T WE.

 

[TwinkieGorilla]

We're gonna use DEPTH OF FIELD instead of FOG OF WAR! Doesn't it look great???"

If this is satire, this is pretty great. But in case it's not, I'll bite:

Then thank fuck Brian Fargo is in charge and not you! Because I'd much rather he be cutting corners on cheap graphical gimmicks in order to cover up for cosmetic under-achievements and focusing their attention on things which actually matter if you're not a graphixwhore. No, I'm not particularly smitten with any of the graphics for WL2 yet, but it also doesn't bother me and I haven't bought into this project for the pretty pictures.

kool kredit haversters and the thumbs up brigade that have to come and start their "omg guys stop everything is great old school RPGs are back :brofist: I can't wait to announce the world I bought abandonware on GOG"

 

[Excidium]

We're gonna use DEPTH OF FIELD instead of FOG OF WAR! Doesn't it look great???"

If this is satire, this is pretty great. But in case it's not, I'll bite:

Then thank fuck Brian Fargo is in charge and not you! Because I'd much rather he be cutting corners on cheap graphical gimmicks in order to cover up for cosmetic under-achievements and focusing their attention on things which actually matter if you're not a graphixwhore. No, I'm not particularly smitten with any of the graphics for WL2 yet, but it also doesn't bother me and I haven't bought into this project for the pretty pictures.

You really are a moron or a massive cocksucker, not sure which. Depth of field is the definition of cheap graphical gimmicks. It's great to see you're a minority at least in the codex and not everyone is content with mediocrity when things can be made better.

I see that quote bothered you. Did you identify yourself?

I'm somehow guessing there's more to "the systems are shit" than the sillyness that is brute force, BUT I GUESS WE'LL FIND OUT WHEN EXCIDIUM ANSWERS NOW WON'T WE.

The stat system they showed made evident this is not a system designed with competence. Doesn't give me much hope for the rest of the mechanics.

 

[Branm]

Need higher poly models if its zoomed out that far and yeah you can see a clear difference from the DoF or whatever it is. With todays hardware you shouldnt need to reduce it that drastically anyway.

In the end though, I dont care about the gfx as long as there is a large "open" world with good tactical combat, content and story!

 

[TwinkieGorilla]

You really are a moron or a massive cocksucker, not sure which. Depth of field is the definition of cheap graphical gimmicks.

You really are a moron or a massive cocksucker, not sure which. Just kidding, you're the former. Since that was my fucking point, you incredibly dumb motherfucking idiot. I'd rather he be cutting corners ON CHEAP GRAPHICAL GIMMICKS LIKE FUCKING DEPTH OF FIELD YOU STUPID FUCKING CUNT. GET IT NOW?

I see that quote bothered you.

Then you need your eyes checked.

 

[Excidium]

You really are a moron or a massive cocksucker, not sure which. Depth of field is the definition of cheap graphical gimmicks.

You really are a moron or a massive cocksucker, not sure which. Just kidding, you're the former. Since that was my fucking point, you incredibly dumb motherfucking idiot. I'd rather he be cutting corners ON CHEAP GRAPHICAL GIMMICKS LIKE FUCKING DEPTH OF FIELD YOU STUPID FUCKING CUNT. GET IT NOW?

Then why the fuck are you arguing with people asking for it to be removed?

 

[TwinkieGorilla]

Dude. Please. Try fucking harder. I'd rather BRIAN. FUCKING. FARGO. USE. CHEAP. GRAPHICAL. GIMMICKS. AND. CUT. CORNERS. THERE. THAN. IN. MORE. FUCKING. IMPORTANT. FUCKING. PLACES.

 

[TwinkieGorilla]

You fucking imbecile.

And I'm not arguing with anybody about it being removed. I'm simply questioning the priorities of the people whining about it.

 

[St. Toxic]

 

[Excidium]

People are just commenting about the screenshot posted on the update. Stop being such a butthurt faggot.

 

[Roguey]

It's too bad Chris Keenan isn't an open book like Josh Sawyer so we could be talking about the systems in depth instead of all this superficial nonsense. It wouldn't surprise me if everything under-the-hood remains a mystery until the beta testers get a hold of it in October. And of course it'd be delightful if, like Shadowrun Returns, it skimped on transparency.

 

[EG]

You fucking imbecile.

And I'm not arguing with anybody about it being removed. I'm simply questioning the priorities of the people whining about it.

Who needs priorities when you're just waiting for something to be released while processing updates one at a time?

 

[Infinitron]

It's too bad Chris Keenan isn't an open book like Josh Sawyer so we could be talking about the systems in depth instead of all this superficial nonsense.

We really should interview him, although I suspect this opaqueness may be an inXile policy and he wouldn't say much.

 

[TwinkieGorilla]

Who needs priorities when you're just waiting for something to be released while processing updates one at a time?

Commenting is one thing, whining is another. I don't care enough about graphics to sit and whine about them. Nothing to do with my hopes for this game and so I would have assumed, most people here. So I question the people who're bawling the loudest. Why u mad, graphixbros?

If this has been too hard for some of you to follow...maybe you need pictorial accompaniment? I promise not to use depth of field.

 

[Metro]

TwinkieGorilla vs. Excidium -- who is the angrier teenager?

 

[TwinkieGorilla]

Metro vs. Comedy -- who is the wittiest of all?

 

[Metro]

Twinkie vs. Logical Insults -- guess who lost?

 

[TwinkieGorilla]

Fuck youuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu....man. I was trying to be creative.

 

[FeelTheRads]

I don't care enough about graphics to sit and whine about them.

Oh yeah, like you don't care about what others say, am I right?

 

[TwinkieGorilla]

Um, not sure what that has to do with graphics?

 

[EG]

I don't care enough about graphics to sit and whine about them.

Oh yeah, like you don't care about what others say, am I right?

Exactly.

The problem is that people are saying things, about things, far too often.

 

[861129]

I don't see how not liking the inclusion of a superfluous and ugly graphics trick equates to being a graphics whore.

 

[Irxy]

Wat, they want to sell my abandonware?