KickStarter We need more buttons

[Ol' Willy]

If there's opposition towards a book being informative, what would be representative then? A light bulb?

Take the head of The Nameless One from Planescape Torment. Resize it so it wouldn't look like shit.

The meaning remains the same -"informative", but the underlying meaning "UPDATED MY JOURNAL".

This is the type of button suited best for KKKodex, after all, PST still tops that the 101

 

[Zizka]

Please don't change any of these buttons, they're fine as it is. Only the "funny" button needs to be changed.

Laughing smiley is the only one that needs to be replaced.

You’ve said so twice already so your opinion on this is clear, I assure you. It’s ultimately up to the community to decide however, not one individual in particular (except DarkUnderlord). I won’t tailor what I do on what you want individually although I’ve read and understood your request.

Though replacing a few of the generic yellow smileys with well done trolls may be worthwhile.

That’s fair regarding the generic yellow ones as the other ones are more unique. I’ll focus on those as a priority namely:
Funny, retarded, butt hurt, thanks and salute.

 

[†††]

I wanted to give ''informative'' button a shot first.

The current button is 18x18 with 225 colors (therefore non-pixel art).

225 colors. The madness! the size is just an insurmountable 858 bytes!

Spoiler

Have you ever thought of indexing the image so it doesn't break your internet connection? here, I made a version with just 8 colors:

You might have to wait 5 minutes for it to load on your 14.4k modem though.

 

[HeroMarine]

VGA had 256 colors, FYI.

 

[Zizka]

Ok, other versions (for funny):
A.

B.

C.

I know the troll uses black lines for the eyes and mouth but it's a mistake in my opinion as both are dark colors which hurts readability because of the low contrast. I can sort of bypass that by using a lighter color around the eyes:

D.

E.

Yes, it's still too complex, I know. I'm wondering:

Which set of horns? Shorter, longer? Teeth, no teeth, upper teeth only, lower teeth only? I'll keep on simplifying.

 

[Viata]

Please, keep original funny.

 

[GhostCow]

The nice thing about the current funny button is that it's animated. One of the few buttons that should be. I'm also not really a fan of pixel art in general so if it can't be made to look like the usual codex trolls I'd say just leave it alone.

 

[Zombra]

I hope this has been good exercise but it seems like a waste of time. None of those are readable next to the others. And where did that godawful pink come from?

 

[Lady Error]

Zizka

I would take something like this as a template (the head):



and then take the black on yellow smiley face expressions and put them on his face. The shape of the face may need to be shortened too for it to work better.

 

[Zizka]

Zizka

I would take something like this as a template (the head):



and then take the black on yellow smiley face expressions and put them on his face. The shape of the face may need to be shortened too for it to work better.

Why not, worth a try! I'll give it a shot.

EDIT: Forgot this one:
F.

Ok, some more:

G.

H. Further simplified.

I. Further simplified.

J.

 

[Morenatsu.]

downloadin high-poly model packs from CodexMods.

 

[Ol' Willy]

J.

You're getting closer

 

[fantadomat]

J.

You're getting closer

N

 

[Zizka]

Different versions:

K.

It's two frames. The movement is the same as in the current 'funny' icon (same number of frames as well).

L.

Two frames, rounder.

M.

Three frames, shorter ''horns''.

N.

11 frames.

O.

Eyes closed, no teeth, head movement.



Thanks! I've started on working on the 'shit' icon. I had to google piles of poop to find a good photographic reference but I finally found one. I'd rather put in spoilers as it's pretty disgusting to look at all things considered.

 

[Ghulgothas]

Gettin' there, L. with the closed eyes of O. I'd recommend adjusting the readability of the expression to better fit the smaller resolution. Perhaps a darker shade for the eyes and mouth, along a more contrasting shade of pink for the tongue.

 

[Zombra]

I think L with the closed eyes of O should be pretty close. Def don't need to expand the color palette. Lose the teeth, they don't read and we want to see more mouth interior anyway. Maybe animate the jaw instead of the face, it's weird to see the eyes sliding up and down on the skull. Just a thought.

 

[Ismaul]

Sorry to say, but current funny is meh, yet it is still better than the presented options, as it is clear.

And frankly, the proposed trolls do not capture or represent the Codex troll's character or attitude. Plus they look like horned pigs.

IMO, it's a bad idea to change buttons if the proposed replacements aren't better. The bar is high, I guess.

 

[catfood]

I can't really tell what that smiley is trying to convey. It could mean anything from laughter to munching to having a stroke. Leave the current funny button as it is.

 

[Semiurge]

Ok so, first foray. I will rework the icons based on the feedback I get. Just make sure you point out what needs fixing in your opinion.

I wanted to give ''informative'' button a shot first.

The current button is 18x18 with 225 colors (therefore non-pixel art).

Note: all the logos below are too big. I know. I'm posting them to know which style you guys would like the most. I'll resize and rework it after.

A.

48x28
This is the one I made. It's 48x28 so it's *probably* too big (since it can't be resized because it'll mess the pixels up).

B.

57x52
This is one is animated and the design is different. I added the ''i'' for informative inside the book. I wasn't sure if I should go for animation or not. Some buttons are animated while others aren't. It's probably way too big as well but I could reduce the size of this one by half I think.

C.

27x20
This one is much smaller but not animated.

So you can say which one you prefer and why and which modification you'd like to be done in order to improve it. Animation or no animation (too distracting?).

 

[Modron]

Better, should still keep informative but that could be a good updated my journal.

 

[Semiurge]

Better, should still keep informative but that could be a good updated my journal.

That and many more great button suggestions in my button polle thread: Button Poll

 

[Zizka]

Gettin' there, L. with the closed eyes of O. I'd recommend adjusting the readability of the expression to better fit the smaller resolution. Perhaps a darker shade for the eyes and mouth, along a more contrasting shade of pink for the tongue.

I think L with the closed eyes of O should be pretty close. Def don't need to expand the color palette. Lose the teeth, they don't read and we want to see more mouth interior anyway. Maybe animate the jaw instead of the face, it's weird to see the eyes sliding up and down on the skull. Just a thought.

Gotcha, I’ll try again. The reason I moved the face in one instead of the jaw is because that’s how the current yellow one does it (moving the face up and down 1 pixel).

 

[Zizka]

Next set:
P. Removed the teeth, made the horns shorter. Moved the jaw instead of the full face.

Q. More frames, different timing.

R. Back to two frames, shorter horns, tongue, bigger eyes.

S. Longer chin to make it more like the original reference of the troll. Change the shape of the horns as well to better represent the troll. Also changed the eye shape for that reason.

T. Non-frowning, different head shape, different horns.

Lady Error Ol' Willy Ghulgothas
Your notes/feedback would be helpful and appreciated.

 

[Skinwalker]

Different versions:

K.

It's two frames. The movement is the same as in the current 'funny' icon (same number of frames as well).

L.

Two frames, rounder.

M.

Three frames, shorter ''horns''.

N.

11 frames.

O.

Eyes closed, no teeth, head movement.



Thanks! I've started on working on the 'shit' icon. I had to google piles of poop to find a good photographic reference but I finally found one. I'd rather put in spoilers as it's pretty disgusting to look at all things considered.

These are all pretty cool, but none of them look like they're laughing. More like trying to devour your soul or smthn. I'm scared.

 

[Zizka]

Maximus
Those aren't the latest version. I changed them because I also thought they could look more like they were laughing.