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[Zizka]

now that's dedication to trolling

Shhhhhh... I haven't reached 10 'stop posting' yet.

Another thing of note is that constructive criticism isn't always valid, i.e. the consumer doesn't always know best. This means that, although feedback is welcome, it doesn't mean it'll be implemented because not all ideas are good ones. Case in point, I'll often do multiple revisions because what I think is a good idea at first turns out not to be one.

A good example of this was the suggestion to move the jaw instead of the face for the 'funny' smiley. Turns out it didn't work out. That's fine but just to show that not all suggestions will work. Some are worth trying, others not so. Another example, let's take the prestigious smiley:

One suggestion was to have the monocle the same color as the original smiley, let's see how it looks:

I wouldn't say it's an improvement personally (I actually added a second color so that the original blue isn't so clashing). Even if I tone down the color a bit it still doesn't look as good as without in my opinion (it would also mean adding more colors instead of sticking to a strict palette):

I'm not sure though, maybe I could still toy around the blue to make it work.

Another criticism was about some not liking the original animation (not that the faces above are longer to make it look more like the original):

and new one

Question: Should I stick to the concept on the one on the left or the one on the right?

(the 'glass glare' idea is from Cybersix at 0:08-0:09):

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Whole process below:

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At the moment, I'd got for something like this:

Animation wise, this is the process (it's all the same smiley):

Self-criticism: the monocle bounce is too much. The mouth could use some variation a bit.

The timing is wrong and will probably be told that it's too complex with 17 frames... The head movement might be too much.

Still probably too much, might have to tone it down further. I like the chain movement though.

Timing is better but it could be better.

Some stray pixels on the forehead. Could look more pretentious.

Getting ever closer...

So you guys basically don't like long animations, got it. I guess you wouldn't like my 'liar' smiley then:

I reworked the 'funny' smiley so that it fits with the prestigious one.

or just without a nose:

So the reason I included the background is because that's the current backdrop for the button 'box'.
Agree:

Disagree:

 

[GhostCow]

One suggestion was to have the monocle the same color as the original smiley, let's see how it looks:

Honestly this one looks really good. Best thing you've posted

 

[Strange Fellow]

Agree with the above post. In general, your animations are too long and elaborate and have got stages where they don't look like what they're supposed to look like, which makes them harder to identify at a glance. Less is more, if you can pull it off.

 

[Semiurge]

Shhhhhh... I haven't reached 10 'stop posting' yet.

Another thing of note is that constructive criticism isn't always valid, i.e. the consumer doesn't always know best. This means that, although feedback is welcome, it doesn't mean it'll be implemented because not all ideas are good ones. Case in point, I'll often do multiple revisions because what I think is a good idea at first turns out not to be one.

A good example of this was the suggestion to move the jaw instead of the face for the 'funny' smiley. Turns out it didn't work out. That's fine but just to show that not all suggestions will work. Some are worth trying, others not so. Another example, let's take the prestigious smiley:

One suggestion was to have the monocle the same color as the original smiley, let's see how it looks:

I wouldn't say it's an improvement personally (I actually added a second color so that the original blue isn't so clashing). Even if I tone down the color a bit it still doesn't look as good as without in my opinion (it would also mean adding more colors instead of sticking to a strict palette):

I'm not sure though, maybe I could still toy around the blue to make it work.

Another criticism was about some not liking the original animation (not that the faces above are longer to make it look more like the original):

and new one

Question: Should I stick to the concept on the one on the left or the one on the right?

(the 'glass glare' idea is from Cybersix at 0:08-0:09):

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Whole process below:

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At the moment, I'd got for something like this:

Animation wise, this is the process (it's all the same smiley):

Self-criticism: the monocle bounce is too much. The mouth could use some variation a bit.

The timing is wrong and will probably be told that it's too complex with 17 frames... The head movement might be too much.

Still probably too much, might have to tone it down further. I like the chain movement though.

Timing is better but it could be better.

Some stray pixels on the forehead. Could look more pretentious.

Getting ever closer...

So you guys basically don't like long animations, got it. I guess you wouldn't like my 'liar' smiley then:

I reworked the 'funny' smiley so that it fits with the prestigious one.

or just without a nose:

So the reason I included the background is because that's the current backdrop for the button 'box'.
Agree:

Disagree:

I like the 'liar' button.

 

[Zizka]

As well you should, it's great as in anything I do.

What's bothering me at the moment are the horns. As mentioned by someone else I forget, they look like devil horns as opposed to the troll's horns (ears?) which I can't get quite right.

Retarded:

My point is, I can do better.

This being said, I too am having trouble getting the 'retarded' aspect across visually. How do you depict retardation (I realize I'm opening myself up to a lot of jokes here). Ideas and suggestions are welcomed as usual. I think an animation would help here although I'm aware you guys aren't quite keen on long animations.

or

I'm pretty happy with these two.

Previous attempts:
I've tried some animations:

Too busy...

A.

B.

C.

D.

E.

 

[Peachcurl]

As well you should, it's great as in anything I do.

What's bothering me at the moment are the horns. As mentioned by someone else I forget, they look like devil horns as opposed to the troll's horns (ears?) which I can't get quite right.

Retarded:

My point is, I can do better.

This being said, I too am having trouble getting the 'retarded' aspect across visually. How do you depict retardation (I realize I'm opening myself up to a lot of jokes here). Ideas and suggestions are welcomed as usual. I think an animation would help here although I'm aware you guys aren't quite keen on long animations.

or

I'm pretty happy with these two.

Previous attempts:
I've tried some animations:

Too busy...

A.

B.

C.

D.

E.

I like C, tho maybe it helps to have some drooling (in a blue-ish color?) instead of the tongue (if that is what is hanging out)?

 

[Zizka]

It's drool, yes. I try not to add in additional colors if I can avoid it. Will give it a short, thanks my dude.

 

[fork]

Your creations are all so terribly shitty that I'm convinced the entire administration loves laughes their asses off at the effort you spend.

 

[Peachcurl]

It's drool, yes. I try not to add in additional colors if I can avoid it. Will give it a short, thanks my dude.

Gray-colored drool may also be an alternative to blue

 

[Peachcurl]

the entire administration loves their asses

sounds gay

 

[fork]

lol, probably true as well though.

 

[Ghulgothas]

As well you should, it's great as in anything I do.

What's bothering me at the moment are the horns. As mentioned by someone else I forget, they look like devil horns as opposed to the troll's horns (ears?) which I can't get quite right.

Retarded:

My point is, I can do better.

This being said, I too am having trouble getting the 'retarded' aspect across visually. How do you depict retardation (I realize I'm opening myself up to a lot of jokes here). Ideas and suggestions are welcomed as usual. I think an animation would help here although I'm aware you guys aren't quite keen on long animations.

or

I'm pretty happy with these two.

Previous attempts:
I've tried some animations:

Too busy...

A.

B.

C.

D.

E.

For the retarded icon, I'm more partial to the ladder 2, D & E; particularly E's lopsided eyes and D's fatter tongue. I can understand wanting to go with the new route of the drooling-idiot interpretation with a mindless smile, but the original is based on the facial structure and shared expression of those with Down's Syndrome. Speaking of depicting retardation.

Mismatched eyes (squinted potentially) & an open mouth occluded by a fat tongue/bad teeth (drool potentially) are the two design necessities. An actual expression is another matter; I think the one of mindless vacancy the original has fulfills it's intended derogatory use better, but one of dumb glee with a crooked smile might work similarly.

I look forward to seeing what you come up with for Sheeple and It Was Aliens.

 

[Zizka]

Thanks, Gulgothas. I just read your message so I'll try another version with your input.

I'm honestly surprised Fork is still around (as in among the living).

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Seems to me we're getting the short end of the stick with Kurt Cobain and Chris Cornell gone. Hardly seems fair.



I tried with some drool but not convinced just yet.

Updated my .txt. It's just a smiley but I felt like giving it a shot.

This is as small as I can get it. I would've liked to reach 22 px high like the other ones but it didn't look right. It doesn't really matter as it's a smiley and ot a button however.


Process below:

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[Optimist]

Cool it with the anti-semitic remarks

Whole Hog

ninja'd

 

[Zizka]

I can't pull off the drool just yet. Turns out drawing someone retarded is harder than I tought.

F.

G.

H.

I.

J.

K.

Too squinty probably. *sigh* still doesn't look right.

Apprently they have a smaller mouth too:

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[Jonathan "Zee Nekomimi]

leave retard rating as it is. No need to change that classic.

 

[Ismaul]

leave retard

I think your first two words were plenty enough

 

[Zizka]

Old:
A.

B.

I think the idea is there. I'm happy with how it turned out. I limited myself to a simple, two frame animation. If you have things you'd like changed about it, let me know.

To sum up what I've done so far:

Red crosses are buttons I have no interest in doing. Green check marks, I have done already.

The current 'disgusting' is hard to read so *maybe* I'll give it a shot. That and butthurt because it looks fun to do. I think I've done probably close to 50 different buttons so I'd say afther that I've done what I've said I'd do.

 

[Sukhāvatī]

That and butthurt because it looks fun to do.

I always see butthurt as goatse even though it apparently isn't. Maybe you could make it so

 

[Peachcurl]

Old:
A.

B.

I think the idea is there. I'm happy with how it turned out. I limited myself to a simple, two frame animation. If you have things you'd like changed about it, let me know.

To sum up what I've done so far:

Red crosses are buttons I have no interest in doing. Green check marks, I have done already.

The current 'disgusting' is hard to read so *maybe* I'll give it a shot. That and butthurt because it looks fun to do. I think I've done probably close to 50 different buttons so I'd say afther that I've done what I've said I'd do.

Old looks good.

I probably wouldn't fiddle with the Disgusting one, it's one of a set (all kinda look alike), but the other's are only available in the politics boards. Not sure it makes sense to change only one of 'em, unless you bank on the other ones being phased out eventually.

 

[Ol' Willy]

Old:
A.

B.

Good although I don't get what is the object on the right

 

[Zizka]

It's meant to be a cane. I could redo it in different colors. I just wanted to use the same restricted palette.

I always see butthurt as goatse even though it apparently isn't. Maybe you could make it so

I had to google what 'goatse' meant and it is truly repulsive.

Old looks good.

I probably wouldn't fiddle with the Disgusting one, it's one of a set (all kinda look alike), but the other's are only available in the politics boards. Not sure it makes sense to change only one of 'em, unless you bank on the other ones being phased out eventually.

That's a fair point. I won't redo the 'disgusting' then.

 

[Zizka]

Butthurt:
J.

or
K.

or
L.

I've also reworked the cane a bit:

If you have comments, let me know and I'll try to rework it further.



There are more versions in the spoiler below:
Process:

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C.

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H.

I.

 

[Sunri]

I Have No

, and I Must Cringe!

 

[Morenatsu.]

Butthurt:
J.

or
K.

or
L.

I've also reworked the cane a bit:

If you have comments, let me know and I'll try to rework it further.



There are more versions in the spoiler below:
Process:

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A.

B.

C.

D.

E.

F.

G.

H.

I.

No, no, you're doing it wrong. It needs to look like this:

But from the other side.