Game News "What can change the nature of a game?" - Torment: Tides of Numenera Kickstarter is LIVE

[Zed]

he could stretch jaesun's goal any time.

 

[Orma]

Beautiful.

 

[Bruma Hobo]

Al Fargo needs to do now is a new Gold Box like game and the complete cRPG INCLINE would be complete.

Well, we can always fap to Chaos Chronicles I, on the other hand, would never announce a complete cRPG incline without a proper Daggerfall sequel.

 

[Aeschylus]

Well, with Shadowrun, P:E, W2 and now Torment, I think my RPG slate will be pretty well filled up for the next couple years. It's nice to actually have something to look forward to again.

 

[TalesfromtheCrypt]

The Numenera setting actually looks very interesting and I like the story premise they presented in the video. Also the Mark Morgan track in the pitch video = ultimate WINNARZ like Cleve would say.

 

[4too]

Waar Is Het Bier Tier!

Need 4too as a Torment NPC fundraiser.

As long as the Draft is dark … with a thick foamy head … will push expectations beyond common marketing inebriation's.


4too

 

[Castanova]

So it had good story, dialogues, and graphics... tell me again how that has anytihng to do with the gameplay? The quest design maybe was great from a story perspective but if you think fed-ex is an example of good gameplay then.... yikes.

Isn't all that gameplay? story, dialogue, graphics, quest design, etc. PS:T was lacking in several fronts, especially the combat and the ending, but fuck me if the journey through it was not the best piece of "gameplay" i ever experienced in an crpg.

How are graphics gameplay? How is story gameplay? Those things are the polar opposite of gameplay. The visual design of the pieces on a chessboard is not gameplay. The notes describing the "lore" in the instruction manual of Settles of Catan or whatever is not gameplay. You liked PS:T, that's obvious, but that doesn't mean it had good gameplay.

 

[Jaesun]

Where is that damn Fargo Wizard throwing a fireball pic when you need it.

 

[Orma]

Btw. Finding answers about yourself, seeking your creator for knowledge and moar answers... Sounds too familiar.

 

[Infinitron]

 

[Gurkog]

My broke ass chipped in $20 to feed the monkey on my back... Damn you, Fargo!

 

[Esquilax]

BUT OF COURSE THERE IS!! THEY ARE JUST NOT SHOWING IT TO FILTHY PEASANTS LIKE US, BECAUSE WHO WOULD? IT'S NOT LIKE THEY ARE OBLIGED TO. WE LIVE TO GIVE THEM MONEYZ, SCREW THE REST.

I hear you constantly bitching about this, but I don't know what the fuck you expect. I'm not saying that Project Eternity is going to turn out to be a great game, but the whole Kickstarter phenomenon itself is basically fueled by hope and faith; In hopes that a good RPG will be produced, I'm willing to pledge x amount of dollars because I have a certain amount of faith in Fargo/Obsidian/whatever to produce a decent product. In the end, that's what it boils down to.

I'm not saying don't criticize design decisions or anything like that, I'm just saying that criticizing these Kickstarter projects for not having everything nailed down to a tee is stupid considering the whole Kickstarter process is a crapshoot to begin with. It is what it is.

 

[Mrowak]

So it had good story, dialogues, and graphics... tell me again how that has anytihng to do with the gameplay? The quest design maybe was great from a story perspective but if you think fed-ex is an example of good gameplay then.... yikes.

Isn't all that gameplay? story, dialogue, graphics, quest design, etc. PS:T was lacking in several fronts, especially the combat and the ending, but fuck me if the journey through it was not the best piece of "gameplay" i ever experienced in an crpg.

How are graphics gameplay? How is story gameplay? Those things are the polar opposite of gameplay. The visual design of the pieces on a chessboard is not gameplay. The notes describing the "lore" in the instruction manual of Settles of Catan or whatever is not gameplay. You liked PS:T, that's obvious, but that doesn't mean it had good gameplay.

It had a very good gameplay. The gameplay was centered around exploration of the setting and the plot. You know - doing all those quests, learning about various factions and your plight, solving puzzles, going through dialogue trees, making choices, etc. PS:T is a prime example of the gameplay being used as a medium for telling a story.

Combat sucked, though. Fortunatelly it was a minor part of it... which is not a good excuse, really.

 

[Mrowak]

BUT OF COURSE THERE IS!! THEY ARE JUST NOT SHOWING IT TO FILTHY PEASANTS LIKE US, BECAUSE WHO WOULD? IT'S NOT LIKE THEY ARE OBLIGED TO. WE LIVE TO GIVE THEM MONEYZ, SCREW THE REST.

I hear you constantly bitching about this, but I don't know what the fuck you expect. I'm not saying that Project Eternity is going to turn out to be a great game, but the whole Kickstarter phenomenon itself is basically fueled by hope and faith; In hopes that a good RPG will be produced, I'm willing to pledge x amount of dollars because I have a certain amount of faith in Fargo/Obsidian/whatever to produce a decent product. In the end, that's what it boils down to.

I'm not saying don't criticize design decisions or anything like that, I'm just saying that criticizing these Kickstarter projects for not having everything nailed down to a tee is stupid considering the whole Kickstarter process is a crapshoot to begin with. It is what it is.

I was being ironic with Infinitron.

 

[serch]

So, what would you choose: 65 $ boxed copy + 12 $ of mail + some risk of euromagicaltaxing in customs (but you got a box for your collection) or the 75 $ digital one (cheaper, you contribute more to the kickstarter, no taxing risk and get the Numenera's playerbook, but no box for your loot)?

 

[Kosmonaut]

Also, big shame on not offering a tier which includes the pnp books.

Read the tiers descriptions, dumbass. There are two levels where you can get the Numenera rule book in either digital or dead tree version.

 

[IDtenT]

It's really digital manual versus physical one. I never got the obsession about boxes.

 

[IDtenT]

Also, big shame on not offering a tier which includes the pnp books.

Read the tiers descriptions, dumbass. There are two levels where you can get the Numenera rule book in either digital or dead tree version.

And there's two different ones. The player book and the rule book.

 

[Excidium]

Yes, you can take the man out of TSR but not the TSR out of the man.

 

[TripJack]

i've already donated to 1 possible turd being made by inxile

i shan't do it again

 

[undecaf]

i've already donated to 1 possible turd being made by inxile

i shan't do it again

Think about what all you could do with two (2) possible turds.

 

[TwinkieGorilla]

Got a problem with turds, TripJack? Don't let hiver find out!

 

[CSM]

Think about what all you could do with two (2) possible turds.

Turd fight!

 

[evdk]

i've already donated to 1 possible turd being made by inxile

i shan't do it again

Pledge $5 so you can troll their boards when they inevitably fail to deliver

 

[TripJack]

Pledge $5 so you can troll their boards when they inevitably fail to deliver

troll on a board other than rpgcodex? you sir are a heretic