Who are the best modern cRPG developers?

[ColossusCimmerian]

Best modern cRPG developers? Obsidian? Stygian? Owlcat?

Because for the classic cRPG we already know... Troika, Interplay/Black Isle, Sir-Tech and Bioware

 

[NecroLord]

LOL!
Nope.

 

[Fargus]

Nobody.

 

[Maxie]

Best modern cRPG developers? Obsidian? Stygian? Owlcat?

Because for the classic cRPG we already know... Troika, Interplay/Black Isle, Sir-Tech and Bioware

whats the metric you used to deem troika best, bug quotient?

 

[cioran]

Larian on all fronts, just ask Swen if you don't believe me!

 

[Gregz]

Best modern cRPG developers? Obsidian? Stygian? Owlcat?

Because for the classic cRPG we already know... Troika, Interplay/Black Isle, Sir-Tech and Bioware

All modern AAA studios are conveyor belts for pozzed DEI messaging.

There are some smaller studios still making games worth playing, but they are few.

 

[GentlemanCthulhu]

I like owlcat but to be honest it’s slim pickings

 

[ColossusCimmerian]

LOL!
Nope.

 

[Tyranicon]

Depending on what you mean as cRPG, you have Lo-fi games, who's behind Kenshi. There's also codex favorites like Cleve and Pierre, etc.

AAA or AA? You're not gonna find much love around these parts.

 

[Kev Inkline]

CDPR would be if they made crpgs. Despite its faults, CP2077 is a good game, and nothing you say can make me change my mind. Also Witcher 1 is a decent rhythm game, like Patapon. But alas, rpgs are they not.

 

[ColossusCimmerian]

Best modern cRPG developers? Obsidian? Stygian? Owlcat?

Because for the classic cRPG we already know... Troika, Interplay/Black Isle, Sir-Tech and Bioware

All modern AAA studios are conveyor belts for pozzed DEI messaging.

There are some smaller studios still making games worth playing, but they are few.

That's why I mentioned Stygian as example... Which dev do you have in mind?

 

[Sweeper]

Stygian?

One game and an expansion is too little to judge on. If Infusion manages be as good as Underrail, we might have a dev that consistently puts out kino.

 

[luj1]

None

 

[Gregz]

Best modern cRPG developers? Obsidian? Stygian? Owlcat?

Because for the classic cRPG we already know... Troika, Interplay/Black Isle, Sir-Tech and Bioware

All modern AAA studios are conveyor belts for pozzed DEI messaging.

There are some smaller studios still making games worth playing, but they are few.

That's why I mentioned Stygian as example... Which dev do you have in mind?

This list is pretty exhaustive:

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet...WAkYdDahBrxDiwqWMGsWEcEnpdKTa4/htmlview?pli=1

I like Borington, ChaosForge, Lo-Fi Games, Mike Robins, etc.

 

[None]

Stygian Software.

 

[The Brazilian Slaughter]

Larian is definitively up there. Yeah I know I know, but say what you will about them - they have been doing well since DOS1. That was when Larian struck gold. They literally snatched GOTY from Starfield and a bunch of other games. Fuck, Larian is making TB-Iso gameplay really sexy for a bunch of people. If they could tone down the wokery, they could crush the competition. They're also one of the few big RPG studios that are independent and not in the hands of Microsoft, Activision or EA.

I think Larian "gets" the soul of CRPGs - Tabletop-like experiences on your computer. They just need to send their devs to Based Bootcamp and feed them a diet of redpills.

 

[ColossusCimmerian]

Stygian?

One game and an expansion is too little to judge on. If Infusion manages be as good as Underrail, we might have a dev that consistently puts out kino.

True. In that case, we should wait a few years, and vote for developers with at least 3 games.

Yet, in the most recent "best cRPG of all time" poll, recent games were included, which I completely disagree with. It is too early to determine how recent games are the best of all time, with gamers trending towards new games.

 

[The Brazilian Slaughter]

Obsidian?

Modern Obsidian is a shadow of itself.
I think everyone agrees that Obsidian peaked with New Vegas.
I think one of their main problems is that they're good at playing with other people's franchises, but they never managed to make (or buy) THEIR franchise.
So they're stuck chasing their own "Skyrim" or their own "Baldur's Gate" or their own "Fallout" forever.

The real problem, of course, is that they lost their best devs and the core of NuObsidian is a bunch of dangerhairs. You could even say there's two Obsidians, the OG Obsidian made of former BIS people, which lasted ~10 years from the early 2000s to the early 2010s, and NuObsidian which existed since then to this day.
Whatever remains of the Obsidian Old Guard will probably retire/die in ~10 years, and then it's just gonna be all GenX/Millenial/Gen Z Dangerhairs. From there on, its going to be a Microsoft content mill for Gamepass, running on brand name and nostalgia. I would be surprised if Obsidian still exists in 2034.

 

[ColossusCimmerian]

Larian is definitively up there. Yeah I know I know, but say what you will about them - they have been doing well since DOS1. That was when Larian struck gold. They literally snatched GOTY from Starfield and a bunch of other games. Fuck, Larian is making TB-Iso gameplay really sexy for a bunch of people. If they could tone down the wokery, they could crush the competition. They're also one of the few big RPG studios that are independent and not in the hands of Microsoft, Activision or EA.

I think Larian "gets" the soul of CRPGs - Tabletop-like experiences on your computer. They just need to send their devs to Based Bootcamp and feed them a diet of redpills.

A good example of a bad decision from the poll "best of cRPG of all time" was to include recent games, such as Baldur's Gay; hype, controversy and trend all over the internet and journos sites. Wasted of votes from codexers to be honest.

Another thing I briefly read recently was that with the last patch, BGay was hostile against modders. I'm not certain how true this is, I didn't give it much thought. Perhaps you know more about this and you could expand this information.

I think Larian "gets" the soul of CRPGs - Tabletop-like experiences on your computer.

Did you play D&D 1974, Basic D&D or AD&D by Gygax? I'm not sure if you know the "soul" of cRPGs.

 

[The Brazilian Slaughter]

A good example of a bad decision from the poll "best of cRPG of all time" was to include recent games, such as Baldur's Gay; hype, controversy and trend all over the internet and journos sites. Wasted of votes from codexers to be honest.

Another thing I briefly read recently was that with the last patch, BGay was hostile against modders. I'm not certain how true this is, I didn't give it much thought. Perhaps you know more about this and you could expand this information.

Yes, including recent games is not a good idea.

I heard BG3 is actually pretty mod-friendly and getting even more friendly with the latest patches.

Did you play D&D 1974, Basic D&D or AD&D by Gygax? I'm not sure if you know the "soul" of cRPGs.

No.

 

[gooseman]

Cripple-A only produces abortions incompatible with life. Most indies dont have enough of a track record yet.

I think Larian "gets" the soul of CRPGs - Tabletop-like experiences on your computer

Gay vampires? Killing people with barrels?

Starfield

Low bar. There wasn't even any competition that year. If anything, despite soyfield being an abject failure, at least, for once in a billion years, they actually tried to make something sort of new. Unlike bg, which rides off dnd that's been around for almost as long as video games, now made completely mainstream with shit like critical role. Of course it's going to sell and rake in the cash.
I've been giving them the benefit of the doubt, they still fail to impress. It's really like a special ed daycare. Can we start giving GOTY awards for best macaroni art and finger painting? Nominate your studios.

 

[ColossusCimmerian]

Unlike bg, which rides off dnd that's been around for almost as long as video games...

Yes, actually almost all computer games were inspired by the original D&D (1974) and you can trace the game mechanics, settings, and monsters back to it, including non-rpg such as Doom and Quake. It's amazing how the original D&D from 1974 to around 1985 created the best computer RPGs since the late 70s, 80s, and 90s. After that the decline began, a new game using the same name "D&D" but from a different company, WotC/Hasbro.

 

[Daedalos]

Larian, Stygian, Owlcat, Iron Tower, (probably not in business for much longer sadly) and Obsidian

I still like CD PROJEKT RED eventho they dont make cRPGs really, Cyberpunk was an amazing game for me.

Larian and Baldurs Gate 3 really turned the ship around for me regarding Larian, and I'm awaiting their next game.
Owlcat has consistently made good cRPGs, DESPITE all the fucking bugs, and yes they are annoying, they still deliver the old cRPG stuff, and its mostly pretty fucking good.
Iron Tower makes good shit, but has trouble staying in business, which fucking sucks
Obsidian doesn't really make cRPGs any longer, outer worlds was a fluke, and awoved doesnt do it for me, but im hopeful for OUTER WORLDS 2
Styg is amazing, and underrail is fucking PEAK cRPG, if not one of the best modern titles released. Underrail Infusion is gonna get me hard

 

[damager]

I vote Stygian too

 

[Swen]

Bow down peasants