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20 reasons why Kingmaker is objectively better than Baldurs Gate 2

Which game is better?


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RPK

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how does this guy see where he's going?
I would assume his eyes. Hes just posing for the box art right now

but his hat totally covers his eyes :D
 

Bruma Hobo

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The real troll here is the "nostalgia fag" angle. There's no such thing as nostalgia for good things; either something is good or it isn't.

Don't let his decoy poll distract you from his true agenda which is trying to normalize "nostalgia" as a thing.
But nostalgia is a thing when people worship childish games because they played the shit out of them when they were kids and didn't know any better. Many won't even consider the possibility of Kingmaker being a superior game even if today they enjoy it more, since they're no longer ignorant kids.

Same with young adults today who worship games like Oblivion and Skyrim, they may recognize today that those are not the best RPGs ever, but they will still cherish them as groundbreaking, great games for their time, or whatever else.
 

RPK

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Girl on the far right has killeys look.
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how does this guy see where he's going?
I would assume his eyes. Hes just posing for the box art right now

but his hat totally covers his eyes :D
Thats just what he wants you to think.

that's very clever.

it looks like it's pointy enough to be used as an improvised weapon and/or a paper airplane too.
 

Zeriel

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So Safrav likes this game, unfortunate I have to consign Kingmaker to the pile of games that are actually unfortunately shit because Safrav shills for them

I really hope he doesn't start making threads about how Fallout is 10x better than Darklands and shits all over it, that would really make for some painful decisions.
 

dragonul09

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Not even close, I had more fun in a single district in Athkatla than I did with in the entire Kingmaker and nostalgia has nothing do to with it. It's a decent game for the first 3 acts but after that it goes downhill so fast, that it reminds me of Hillary Clintons campaign.
 

Mortmal

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Let's make this thread a little more constructive , find 20 reasons to ban safav hamon, i start:
1: Made poor jarl frank lose his job
 
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2: He is as if designed by Josh Sawyer. A not fun troll.
3: He makes me miss Bubbles so much!
4: He is a living embodiment of the RPGCodex's decline.
 
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FeelTheRads

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Better X *insert random screenshot*.

Boring troll attempt. 3/10.

Better just tell everyone how the Codex hurt you. What game(s) did the Codex shit on that you love and you can't have it that someone doesn't like something that you do?

Maybe if you open up you can finally find some peace.

Also, kill yourself.
 

Darth Canoli

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Let's make this thread a little more constructive , find 20 reasons to ban safav hamon, i start:
1: Made poor jarl frank lose his job

2: He is as if designed by Josh Sawyer. A not fun troll.
3: He makes me miss Bubbles so much!
4: He is a living embodiment of the RPGCodex's decline.

5: Because of his Alzheimer, he rabbles about PoE 2 for ages then shit all over RTwP ... I agree with the latter but the guy has serious brain damage, even by Codex standard.

6: Some drama can't hurt, we need some entertainment while waiting for 2018 top cRPG
 
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Safav Hamon

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This thread triggered people because they have no counterargument. Kingmaker shits on BG2 in every way possible, and anyone that disagrees is in denial.
 
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Safav Hamon

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If you really believe he is a troll, simply do not respond. If he is incorrect, simply argue against his points.

Exactly. They know I'm not a troll, but realize it's impossible to defend Baldurs Gate 2. Their only choice is to attack the messenger out of desperation.
 
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Safav Hamon

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One day all the nolstalgia fags will be dead, and shit games like BG2 will be forgotten. Kingmaker will be remembered for generations.
 

Bladderfish

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Is the OP actually saying that the characters and writing in this game are good? Don't get me wrong, the game is great overall and I'm really enjoying it (after having the sense to wait for most of the bugs to get patched out before buying it). But the feminist/left-wing overtones kill the characters.

Amiri is a cliché that had me clicking through her dialogue like it was going out of fashion ("Men wouldn't let me play their game! Waaah!"; Linzi is about as personable as Jar-Jar Binks; Octavia has man-boobs (honestly; just look at her picture; if a feminist wasn't involved in doing that to her chest, I'll eat my hat); Valerie is another cliché ("Women are only appreciated for their looks! Waaah!".

And is it just me, or is everyone feckin bisexual? I'm not sure, tbh. Reg and Octavia certainly didn't mess about trying to stick their tongues down my throat in two different playthroughs as a man and a woman.

Still, I guess the world and area plots are pretty interesting. It is just the characters and their utter lack of nuance that bugs me.
There's no substantive critique of the writing here at all. Not a word about the themes or plot or the way they interact with the non-linear structure of a compute rrole playing game. You're just annoyed that the game was made by people who don't share your politics.

No, there's not, but since I'm of the opinion that the mere injection of current day politics into games is a failure of imagination and writing ability, there never will be.
 
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Safav Hamon

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One of Paizo's creative developers said that they will always have a SJW agenda in their products. Just another reason why Pathfinder > DnD.
 

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