Are we an RPG Discussion website or a Free Speech website?

[baud]

Maybe instead of banning some/most/all political discussion, how about removing the Politics, God & The Wealth of Nations (and then retardoing any thread that should have been here afterward) but without touching how the rest of the website is moderated? That way those who just want a stormfront with a darker background would leave to greener pastures and those who want to bitch about SJW ruining games will still be able to continue unchanged; that way we'd still get a) rpg discussion and b) free speech to discuss those RPGs.

Of course since it's a compromise, people on both sides of the issue will hate it.

 

[HeroMarine]

SA was always shit, though, unlike the codex.

It actually wasn't. It allowed open discussion back in the day and then was taken over by cat lady and homosexual moderators that were the forerunners of tumblr ideology and policed the place exactly like resetera.

As far as I'm concerned it was always a gay shithole, but your mileage may vary.

 

[Owlish]

SA was always shit, though, unlike the codex.

It actually wasn't. It allowed open discussion back in the day and then was taken over by cat lady and homosexual moderators that were the forerunners of tumblr ideology and policed the place exactly like resetera.

As far as I'm concerned it was always a gay shithole, but your mileage may vary.

You like MPC. A lot of MPC posters are former SomethingAwful posters. And it's a forum about a forum that was about a forum (SASS) full of former SomethingAwful posters. SomethingAwful back in the day was basically 4chan, and then there was a slow takeover from the aforementioned cat ladies and homosexual commie mods pushing a political agenda, similar to the takeover of rpg.net. If it started the way it ended up it would have never became popular.

 

[Black]

Now it's about media player classic? This thread is bonkers.

 

[Owlish]

Now it's about media player classic? This thread is bonkers.

MPC-BE is IMO the best media player for Windows.

 

[rusty_shackleford]

Take rpg.net, for example. Seemed a perfectly fine place to me

this is unironically what they want rpgcodex to look like

rpgcodex circa 2023

 

[rusty_shackleford]

Yeah, good luck with the no politics rule when devs make it their number one thing to inject it into every part of the game.

You can talk about it, just so long as you make sure to praise the woke politics. Just like the Steam forums where they'll ban you for noticing how much LGBTBBQ is in WotR unless you're doing it while clapping with glassy eyes.

you mean sorta like how you can notice white people being replaced but only if you notice it in a positive "Yay! White people are being replaced!" way and not a "Wait, white people are being replaced" way?

 

[Generic-Giant-Spider]

The Cringefinder thread being moved is gay. Being able to engage in ultimately pointless flame wars with a bunch of ESL motherfuckers was what the internet was made for, along with porn.

 

[rusty_shackleford]

please remember NOT to discuss the political aspects of games on the rpg codex by posting screenshots directly from the game
unless it's politics we agree with(see: disco elysium), then you are FINE to discuss the political aspects

 

[fork]

Yeah, Codex is fucked. Has been obvious for a while now.
I don't even care anymore. Let these gay faggot assholes suck each other off and ban good posters until only cretins are left. Fine with with me.

 

[Owlish]

woo! yeah! suck my wolf cock ya faggots!!

[User was banned for this post.]

 

[Clockwork Knight]

Maybe instead of banning some/most/all political discussion, how about removing the Politics, God & The Wealth of Nations (and then retardoing any thread that should have been here afterward) but without touching how the rest of the website is moderated? That way those who just want a stormfront with a darker background would leave to greener pastures and those who want to bitch about SJW ruining games will still be able to continue unchanged; that way we'd still get a) rpg discussion and b) free speech to discuss those RPGs.

Of course since it's a compromise, people on both sides of the issue will hate it.

Also compromises never work and in six months you will have people arguing that if that was removed then this can be removed too. In fact it should be removed because supposedly discussions will have more "quality" once you're not longer allowed to mention the rainbow haired elephants in the room.

No idea why people keep falling for this.

 

[Ol' Willy]

Thinking that politics wormed their way into games just recently is a wishful thinking. They just got bolder.
Remember Fallout 2? That classic RPG with too much pop-cultural references?
Well, it has politics too. Just replay Broken Hills once again

Race is skindeep

Politics of hatred

Hatemonger

Remember, there are half a dozen of people slaughtered and mutilated by muties in the caves nearby

And literal DINDU NUFFIN moment, of course

 

[Bloodeyes]

One thing I'd like to add:

From my perspective I don't see this as a political forum masquerading as an RPG site at all. I see it as an RPG site whose members have political opinions. If it's one or the other, I'd choose the RPGs (yes I know most of my posts are in GD). That being said, free and open discussion of any topic, RPGs included, can't have nebulous limits like "no politics". Because what is political? Who decides that? Is saying that every character in Wrath is LBGT and you don't like that a political statement? Or an artistic criticism? It's both, but any review of Wrath that doesn't mention the elephant in the room isn't being done in good faith. Like, for example, every YouTube video on the game (Owlcat bought those reviews BTW, was that a stretch goal?).

I have political opinions, but with the state of the world now I don't like to think about it too much. It's all so exhausting and depressing. I like to just enjoy my hobby of RPGs and come here and chat about it with other likeminded people. I don't think that's trivial. It really helps having a place like this to do that. Not having to constantly self-censor for once is really nice. Of course there are people here for whom politics is their main thing, and they're just using the relative freedom of this place to spread their message. I don't like those posters much, even if I often agree with their views. But I wouldn't ban them because it's too slippery a slope.

I hope this place can keep going a while longer. This world is getting really dark, and the darker it gets the more I appreciate the Codex. It's a haven for me. A place where I can pretend everything is normal, populated by people who mostly aren't down with the bullshit going on in the world and are free to say so. That doesn't mean I want to go on about politics though. It's tiring and frustrating, and you'll just end up insane if you do that. Hobbies are important to stay sane. Maintaining stable mental health is really hard right now but it's so important. You can't make good decisions if you're paranoid, and you can't enjoy what little life is left to us. We're all under so much pressure.

I hope things get better and we all get through to the other side together. Lets not pre-emptively kill the site just because its death seems inevitable in the current year. There was a mass shooting in my city a couple years ago and right wingers were being rounded up for shitposting as a result of this (shooter was white). I spent about a month scared out of my mind waiting for my door to be kicked in over my youtube comments or FB posts. It didn't happen because I'm nobody. Things calmed down, life went on, and my paranoia all seems so silly now. Lambchop looks like a paranoid idiot for quitting the codex out of fear of ANTIFA now, but at the time it seemed totally reasonable.

All I'm saying is try to keep calm and keep perspective. Just keep being you and what will be will be. That's to the Codex and the codexers. Hang in there.

 

[Twiglard]

Thinking that politics wormed their way into games just recently is a wishful thinking. They just got bolder.
Remember Fallout 2? That classic RPG with too much pop-cultural references?
Well, it has politics too. Just replay Broken Hills once again

It doesn't fit as the mutants are the productive ones.

 

[HeroMarine]

please remember NOT to discuss the political aspects of games on the rpg codex by posting screenshots directly from the game
unless it's politics we agree with(see: disco elysium), then you are FINE to discuss the political aspects

Whoever elevated Roguey to power is a disgrace to mankind.

 

[rusty_shackleford]

please remember NOT to discuss the political aspects of games on the rpg codex by posting screenshots directly from the game
unless it's politics we agree with(see: disco elysium), then you are FINE to discuss the political aspects

Whoever elevated Roguey to power is a disgrace to mankind.

he's just repeating what the new rules are

 

[Deleted member 28561]

Thinking that politics wormed their way into games just recently is a wishful thinking. They just got bolder.
Remember Fallout 2? That classic RPG with too much pop-cultural references?
Well, it has politics too. Just replay Broken Hills once again

In 1500's Nānak is said to have visited Mecca. There he slept with feet towards Kaaba and a mussulman was offended by this. He kicked him, called him infidel and accused him of dishonoring the house of God. Nānak smiled and told him not to be angry. He was an old tired man who needed sleep and respected the house of God as much as anyone. Then he asked to have his feet turned in a direction in which God or the House of God was not.

Hermes asks the same. Show games and discussion of games that is beyond politics. Only possible when all involved assumes the same as given. Then it becomes invisible to eye.

 

[Ol' Willy]

Thinking that politics wormed their way into games just recently is a wishful thinking. They just got bolder.
Remember Fallout 2? That classic RPG with too much pop-cultural references?
Well, it has politics too. Just replay Broken Hills once again

It doesn't fit as the mutants are the productive ones.

Just like nignogs are "productive" ones in the minds of liberals.

Yeah, literal DNA engineered killing machines with the mental capabilities of a small child gonna work in mines for a wage. That's some serious sci-fi here

 

[fantadomat]

Thinking that politics wormed their way into games just recently is a wishful thinking. They just got bolder.
Remember Fallout 2? That classic RPG with too much pop-cultural references?
Well, it has politics too. Just replay Broken Hills once again

Race is skindeep

Politics of hatred

Hatemonger

Remember, there are half a dozen of people slaughtered and mutilated by muties in the caves nearby

And literal DINDU NUFFIN moment, of course

Yup,fallout games are filled with liberal garbage,that is one of the reasons why anything in the subgenre after them is better.

 

[AwesomeButton]

Being able to engage in ultimately pointless flame wars with a bunch of ESL motherfuckers was what the internet was made for, along with porn.

I will change my signature to this.

 

[HeroMarine]

please remember NOT to discuss the political aspects of games on the rpg codex by posting screenshots directly from the game
unless it's politics we agree with(see: disco elysium), then you are FINE to discuss the political aspects

Whoever elevated Roguey to power is a disgrace to mankind.

he's just repeating what the new rules are

Sound like nazis just obeying orders, like Hannah Arandt would say. The banality of evil.

 

[A horse of course]

The whole thing with rusty and Pozzfinder is definitely making me re-evaluate this issue. Infinitroon has been pulling this trick for years (developers use their game for polemicism, people discuss it, Infinitron moves any references to it to Gaming Drama so as not to pollute the shill thread), and it's pretty obvious now that the split would be seen by the jannies from the RPG-side of the site as giving them a mandate to crack down even harder on evil gamergate incels "derailing" threads.

 

[HeroMarine]

Whoever moved that thread is literally worse than Hitler. And like Norm MacDonald used to say, Hitler was a bad man.

 

[fantadomat]

shill thread

I never got that accusation toward infi,i mean.....for it to be shilling you need to have some kind of audience. The codex is hardly that popular to be able to call it shilling. Most of the people that visit here know about his jew tricks. It is not like there is a movement of 10k copies sold because he removed some negative shit about X game.