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JamesDixon

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all y'all funny as shit. bitching at each other about woke consumerism and whatnots. you can bash your head against a wall sayin' that 'anti-woke' is a majority when then numbers show that a mass majority of humans prefer the opposite. you all understand that ultimately, it's your child that carries your morals/beliefs if you actually raise them instead of letting the fuckin' telly tell them that mental derangement and bodily mutilation is cool and you'll never regret the decisions you make as a teen! but i'm just some fucking crazy person raising my kids with my own morals. i can only guide them to make the right decisions when they are adults. after that, they're flying solo and making decisions themselves.

game's already bought, might as well get my monies worth. i actually see a penis every single day (i'm skinny enough to see my own unlike the forty percent of humans who are too fat to), so they don't frighten me.

The vast majority of humans are below average IQ and visit McDonalds who have the most purchased burgers on the planet. It does not mean that McDonalds is any good.

I suggest you find another invalid comparison to hang your hat on.
 
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all y'all funny as shit. bitching at each other about woke consumerism and whatnots. you can bash your head against a wall sayin' that 'anti-woke' is a majority when then numbers show that a mass majority of humans prefer the opposite. you all understand that ultimately, it's your child that carries your morals/beliefs if you actually raise them instead of letting the fuckin' telly tell them that mental derangement and bodily mutilation is cool and you'll never regret the decisions you make as a teen! but i'm just some fucking crazy person raising my kids with my own morals. i can only guide them to make the right decisions when they are adults. after that, they're flying solo and making decisions themselves.

game's already bought, might as well get my monies worth. i actually see a penis every single day (i'm skinny enough to see my own unlike the forty percent of humans who are too fat to), so they don't frighten me.
You could've stopped at "y'all".
Aww, did my colloquialism offend thy faggy eyes?

It's an invalid comparison logical fallacy, but then below average IQ people like you don't understand the difference.
 

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all y'all funny as shit. bitching at each other about woke consumerism and whatnots. you can bash your head against a wall sayin' that 'anti-woke' is a majority when then numbers show that a mass majority of humans prefer the opposite. you all understand that ultimately, it's your child that carries your morals/beliefs if you actually raise them instead of letting the fuckin' telly tell them that mental derangement and bodily mutilation is cool and you'll never regret the decisions you make as a teen! but i'm just some fucking crazy person raising my kids with my own morals. i can only guide them to make the right decisions when they are adults. after that, they're flying solo and making decisions themselves.

game's already bought, might as well get my monies worth. i actually see a penis every single day (i'm skinny enough to see my own unlike the forty percent of humans who are too fat to), so they don't frighten me.
You could've stopped at "y'all".
Aww, did my colloquialism offend thy faggy eyes?
Unless you’re black or Texan you’re doin a heckin cultural appropriation
 

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Those are views held by religious nut jobs - I'd be surprised if anyone harbouring these comments was not religious- and then I'd be intrigued as to why they'd hold such views.

I don't believe the majority of people complaining about this are "religious nut jobs" I think they are just people who are tired of all the degeneracy and pandering. Companies already know they have the money or normal people. So they feature degenerates and blacks to get even more money. The pandering is dishonest. If you haven't already, read about ESG and Blackrock.

Are you actually intrigued about how someone who is non religious could hold these views?

Anyway I wasn't talking about that sex scene though, I mean people here always get bent up because there's gay people or black people in video games.

I ask you a question. If you aren't black or gay or both, why doesn't it bother you? Games were doing fine without the overabundance of both for many years. What about having less white people makes games more enjoyable for you? Do you have a feitsh about being black?
Re point 1 - the pandering part is also what I dislike. It's obvious they do it to increase visibility and sales. But that wasn't my point. My point was using slurs in a non sarcastic tone to describe someone's skin colour or sexuality, 2 things you can't control, is disgusting. I don't buy it that most aren't conservative Christians. Or Muslims, but unlikely.

Yes I'm actually intrigued though - but remember my point as to what I don't understand.

And I know a lot about ESG, but purely from a business angle. I'm director level at a big 4 audit firm and it's all the rage right now, there's huge money to be made here. The E part is what I legitimately think is for the greater good. However the ESG stuff itself I'm not involved in directly because the reporting angle (I'm an accountant specialising in financial reporting) is immensely boring.

Re. Point 2. I'm neither gay or black. I'm a beautiful tanned Mediterranean dweller (just kidding on the beautiful part, but my wife seems to think so :lol: ).

Anyway, I'm not sure I was clear before. I find the pandering to small minorities stupid, but it can be included in a game without being so. Maybe in the future.

Having less white people doesn't make it more enjoyable. I never said that (and you know it).

You seem like a decent enough fellow. I doubt anyone is going to change anyones else's mind in this thread though. I have noticed that the people who push back against the anti-woke crowd are usually not from the west. Unless you live in one of these western or western aligned countries, and you have watched the transformation firsthand, you just don't know how much this shit is thrown around.

It happened very quickly, a lot of anti-white sentiment in all forms of media. A few things seemed to be the catalyst. Occupy Wallstreet, Trump being elected, and of course Gamergate. Movies, all forms of advertising (commercials, in store ads, billboards etc) feature significantly less white people. A lot of mixed race couples, always black male, white female. Mexicans in the US make up a sizeable portion of the population. They are featured in almost nothing. It's black people who are being put on a pedestal. The white men in movies are the nerds, the weaklings, the ones to be made fun of. Feminism has also taken a strong hold in the west. A lot of movie roles that once featured male heroes, are now mary sue females who act exactly like males. Strong, independant, never in need of anyone. It's natural for a man to want to protect a woman, and it's been taken away in all media.

There is more. A lot more. Pride Month (parades with dildos being waved around), BLM destroying cities (people actually kissing the boots and bowing down to black mobs), Black History month (rewriting history, teaching white people they were born racist). The list goes on and on.

Gaming wasn't spared. A game like BG3 comes out. It is being heralded as the greatest RPG of all time. The most impactful choice and consequences ever. Part of an absolutely beloved series. What do they feature? Sex with animals. A character creator featuring chicks with dicks. The journalist love it! Twitter loves it! And WTF??? The Codex loves it.... Yeah, it caused some pushback. And no, it wasn't mostly based on religion.
 

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The vast majority of humans are below average IQ and visit McDonalds the most purchased burgers on the planet. It does not mean that McDonalds is any good.
It's an invalid comparison logical fallacy, but then below average IQ people like you don't understand the difference.
yes, most people are fucking retards. how you feel you need to point this out is beyond me, but here let me let you in on a little thing, capitalism. you want to blame anything? blame that. the most milquetoast thing gets the most mileage because it's been focus tested. why's all this shit in bg3? because a company that makes a product to make money saw that most people wanted it. you and me, we are not most people just by the sheer fact we're here doing some petty argument over a game that, like it or not, is an absolutely ridiculous success by numbers alone and nobody except a brain dead retard can argue that it isn't. we play kotc2 and ultimas. that shit doesn't get played by a lot of people. it is not a governments job to raise it's citizens children nor dictate the course of society, that is the whole of the citizenry. yeah that opinions not popular here but idgaf.

what do i not understand? you don't like some people for one reason or another, and you feel you have some inherent right to dictate the lives of others without the slightest hint of irony it would seem, but i'm not here in a gmaing forum to argue the merits of society or capitalism or wokeness, but here to talk about gaming. i am not so easily swayed by something that i need to have it excluded for others.
 

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The vast majority of humans are below average IQ and visit McDonalds the most purchased burgers on the planet. It does not mean that McDonalds is any good.
It's an invalid comparison logical fallacy, but then below average IQ people like you don't understand the difference.
yes, most people are fucking retards. how you feel you need to point this out is beyond me, but here let me let you in on a little thing, capitalism. you want to blame anything? blame that. the most milquetoast thing gets the most mileage because it's been focus tested. why's all this shit in bg3? because a company that makes a product to make money saw that most people wanted it. you and me, we are not most people just by the sheer fact we're here doing some petty argument over a game that, like it or not, is an absolutely ridiculous success by numbers alone and nobody except a brain dead retard can argue that it isn't. we play kotc2 and ultimas. that shit doesn't get played by a lot of people. it is not a governments job to raise it's citizens children nor dictate the course of society, that is the whole of the citizenry. yeah that opinions not popular here but idgaf.

what do i not understand? you don't like some people for one reason or another, and you feel you have some inherent right to dictate the lives of others without the slightest hint of irony it would seem, but i'm not here in a gmaing forum to argue the merits of society or capitalism or wokeness, but here to talk about gaming. i am not so easily swayed by something that i need to have it excluded for others.

This is what we call a strawman. You have to find something to attack me with while deflecting from your own idiocy. By using another logical fallacy you have, again, shown how much of an idiot you really are.

Also, failing grammar, punctuation, and proper spelling is a big red flag concerning your intelligence. What's the matter is your browser's spellcheck too difficult for you to understand?
 

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Why is there no male dwarf companion in BG3?

Because devs as horny as Larian shouldn't make companions that come up to crotch level on a human.

all mass media are woke and gay. if you want to shut it all out you can call gaming goodbye right now

Or you could just play old stuff. Alternatively, most game devs are horrendous at actually getting a point across and, as a result, most games accused of being woke find ways of unintentionally countersignaling their own messaging. Arkane Studios might be the all-time champ at this.

Re. Point 2. I'm neither gay or black. I'm a beautiful tanned Mediterranean dweller

So black, then.
 

Iucounu

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I keep thinking of the stupid shit talked about in Cyberpunk like dildos everywhere upon release. Is this just for shock to get sales?
Absolutely, the developers need to get through the media noise by any means necessary. I recall Cyberpunk 2077 even removed its dildos in a patch once they had served their marketing purpose. Us gamer complaining about it on forums are basically the developers' "useful idiots", doing their viral marketing for free.

Some people posting can of course be shills helping to fan viral outrage on behalf of the developers. No offense to them for doing their ungrateful work. :salute:
 

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I keep thinking of the stupid shit talked about in Cyberpunk like dildos everywhere upon release. Is this just for shock to get sales?
Absolutely, the developers need to get through the media noise by any means necessary. I recall Cyberpunk 2077 even removed its dildos in a patch once they had served their marketing purpose. Us gamer complaining about it on forums are basically the developers' "useful idiots", doing their viral marketing for free.

Some people posting can of course be shills helping to fan viral outrage on behalf of the developers. No offense to them for doing their ungrateful work. :salute:

They didn't put that stuff in for sales, they did it because it was a requirement for their ESG loans. Larian almost went bankrupt during development, they had to bow down to the jews to get some shekels out of them. You think they want to risk being the next Budweiser?
 

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here let me let you in on a little thing, capitalism. you want to blame anything? blame that. the most milquetoast thing gets the most mileage because it's been focus tested. why's all this shit in bg3? because a company that makes a product to make money saw that most people wanted it.
Woke shit is absolutely not popular, certainly not popular enough to justify its inclusion in everything. The invisible hand of the market was not clamoring for morbidly obese fashion models, or for BM/WF couples in every single advertisement, or for bestiality video games. It's blatantly obvious that this shit is being pushed from the top down by people who don't care whether it hurts their bottom line.

race-mixing-advertising-comic.png
 

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Those are views held by religious nut jobs - I'd be surprised if anyone harbouring these comments was not religious- and then I'd be intrigued as to why they'd hold such views.

I don't believe the majority of people complaining about this are "religious nut jobs" I think they are just people who are tired of all the degeneracy and pandering. Companies already know they have the money or normal people. So they feature degenerates and blacks to get even more money. The pandering is dishonest. If you haven't already, read about ESG and Blackrock.

Are you actually intrigued about how someone who is non religious could hold these views?

Anyway I wasn't talking about that sex scene though, I mean people here always get bent up because there's gay people or black people in video games.

I ask you a question. If you aren't black or gay or both, why doesn't it bother you? Games were doing fine without the overabundance of both for many years. What about having less white people makes games more enjoyable for you? Do you have a feitsh about being black?
Re point 1 - the pandering part is also what I dislike. It's obvious they do it to increase visibility and sales. But that wasn't my point. My point was using slurs in a non sarcastic tone to describe someone's skin colour or sexuality, 2 things you can't control, is disgusting. I don't buy it that most aren't conservative Christians. Or Muslims, but unlikely.

Yes I'm actually intrigued though - but remember my point as to what I don't understand.

And I know a lot about ESG, but purely from a business angle. I'm director level at a big 4 audit firm and it's all the rage right now, there's huge money to be made here. The E part is what I legitimately think is for the greater good. However the ESG stuff itself I'm not involved in directly because the reporting angle (I'm an accountant specialising in financial reporting) is immensely boring.

Re. Point 2. I'm neither gay or black. I'm a beautiful tanned Mediterranean dweller (just kidding on the beautiful part, but my wife seems to think so :lol: ).

Anyway, I'm not sure I was clear before. I find the pandering to small minorities stupid, but it can be included in a game without being so. Maybe in the future.

Having less white people doesn't make it more enjoyable. I never said that (and you know it).

You seem like a decent enough fellow. I doubt anyone is going to change anyones else's mind in this thread though. I have noticed that the people who push back against the anti-woke crowd are usually not from the west. Unless you live in one of these western or western aligned countries, and you have watched the transformation firsthand, you just don't know how much this shit is thrown around.

It happened very quickly, a lot of anti-white sentiment in all forms of media. A few things seemed to be the catalyst. Occupy Wallstreet, Trump being elected, and of course Gamergate. Movies, all forms of advertising (commercials, in store ads, billboards etc) feature significantly less white people. A lot of mixed race couples, always black male, white female. Mexicans in the US make up a sizeable portion of the population. They are featured in almost nothing. It's black people who are being put on a pedestal. The white men in movies are the nerds, the weaklings, the ones to be made fun of. Feminism has also taken a strong hold in the west. A lot of movie roles that once featured male heroes, are now mary sue females who act exactly like males. Strong, independant, never in need of anyone. It's natural for a man to want to protect a woman, and it's been taken away in all media.

There is more. A lot more. Pride Month (parades with dildos being waved around), BLM destroying cities (people actually kissing the boots and bowing down to black mobs), Black History month (rewriting history, teaching white people they were born racist). The list goes on and on.

Gaming wasn't spared. A game like BG3 comes out. It is being heralded as the greatest RPG of all time. The most impactful choice and consequences ever. Part of an absolutely beloved series. What do they feature? Sex with animals. A character creator featuring chicks with dicks. The journalist love it! Twitter loves it! And WTF??? The Codex loves it.... Yeah, it caused some pushback. And no, it wasn't mostly based on religion.

To be fair that's a pretty balanced view. All of the things you mentioned I guess are US centric? I still realise that these things exist but I'm not bombarded with them in my every day life over here, so that makes a big difference. I get where you're coming from, and thanks for the explanation as to why one would be against all of the mentioned developments but not necessarily being religious.
 

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Re. Point 2. I'm neither gay or black. I'm a beautiful tanned Mediterranean dweller

So black, then.


If you've never ventured out of the US and never met someone from this area of Europe, you have cataracts in your eyes and can't afford to fix it thanks to the US healthcare system, and you're in a dark room in the middle of summer, then yeah, maybe I'd look black to you.
 

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Re. Point 2. I'm neither gay or black. I'm a beautiful tanned Mediterranean dweller

So black, then.


If you've never ventured out of the US and never met someone from this area of Europe, you have cataracts in your eyes and can't afford to fix it thanks to the US healthcare system, and you're in a dark room in the middle of summer, then yeah, maybe I'd look black to you.
hello white America (they have more niglets and other "tanned" races than Europe can ever dream of)
 

Iucounu

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I keep thinking of the stupid shit talked about in Cyberpunk like dildos everywhere upon release. Is this just for shock to get sales?
Absolutely, the developers need to get through the media noise by any means necessary. I recall Cyberpunk 2077 even removed its dildos in a patch once they had served their marketing purpose. Us gamer complaining about it on forums are basically the developers' "useful idiots", doing their viral marketing for free.

Some people posting can of course be shills helping to fan viral outrage on behalf of the developers. No offense to them for doing their ungrateful work. :salute:

They didn't put that stuff in for sales, they did it because it was a requirement for their ESG loans. Larian almost went bankrupt during development, they had to bow down to the jews to get some shekels out of them. You think they want to risk being the next Budweiser?
The dildos were most definately for sales, or they wouldn't have been removed afterwards. But I agree there are several motives at play here:

Gay writers genuinely want to create more gay content (it's their life), and likely need to be restrained by Management even today; but a little gayness is actually requested by Management since it helps marketing and ESG loans. Of course, over time the amount must be increased more and more to stick out from the competition. Consumers are increasingly numbed by it as well, reluctantly accepting gayness if the rest of a game is good, but eventually it will go too far and there'll be a consumer backlash.
 

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Re. Point 2. I'm neither gay or black. I'm a beautiful tanned Mediterranean dweller

So black, then.


If you've never ventured out of the US and never met someone from this area of Europe, you have cataracts in your eyes and can't afford to fix it thanks to the US healthcare system, and you're in a dark room in the middle of summer, then yeah, maybe I'd look black to you.
hello white America (they have more niglets and other "tanned" races than Europe can ever dream of)

"White America" also just got collectively beat up with a camping chair, so everyone is extra butthurt these days.
 

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Let's be honest here: despite all the pearl clutching, most gamers are likely just amused by the degeneracy, since they don't take games like this seriously in the first place. It would be worse if a franchize that you actually liked and respected went woke. I for one has no interest in playing any Baldurs Gate game, wether it's woke or not, but the only reason I know about them at all is thanks to their often mentioned gayness. Unfortunately the Youtube videos above didn't reveal any other redeeming qualities, so reading about BG3's degeneracy online is the only entertainment it can provide.
 

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The squirrel killing via a kick almost sold me! How’s the rat murdering? Is it gruesome?


Grrrr


Wonder if you could kill this one?



Hmmm…. So evil. HA!
 
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here let me let you in on a little thing, capitalism. you want to blame anything? blame that. the most milquetoast thing gets the most mileage because it's been focus tested. why's all this shit in bg3? because a company that makes a product to make money saw that most people wanted it.
Woke shit is absolutely not popular, certainly not popular enough to justify its inclusion in everything. The invisible hand of the market was not clamoring for morbidly obese fashion models, or for BM/WF couples in every single advertisement, or for bestiality video games. It's blatantly obvious that this shit is being pushed from the top down by people who don't care whether it hurts their bottom line.

I do think it's consistent with capitalism. Most people don't matter that much, they'll just buy whatever is heavily marketed to them. Woke shit improves your standing with journalists, who are important for promoting the game. In other media, it also attracts sponsors who feel that such media are safe for their ads as it signals loyalty to the regime and the absence of serious risk. People also don't mind being manipulated like that. Many normies have a bizarre aversion to anything they deem "political". If you start discussing the political stances of a game or film, they'll start saying you are "overthinking" and "it's just fun", then they'll start accusing you of things like racism (which they are already convinced is bad). A recent fad is also to call your thinking conspiratorial, even though it is the equivalent of this as far as conspiracy theories go. Moreover, the woke things signal that the game is "modern", and people like the most recent thing. It's kind of like inserting emo music and "this is the new shit" in trailers in the 2000s.

The upshot is that they'll buy chicks with dicks and they most definitely will buy what seems like a joke with bears. The bear campaign was actually very viral and definitely raised awareness of the game. Most perceived it as a meme joke. The meme was huge on Russian gaming websites, for instance.
 
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Iucounu

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here let me let you in on a little thing, capitalism. you want to blame anything? blame that. the most milquetoast thing gets the most mileage because it's been focus tested. why's all this shit in bg3? because a company that makes a product to make money saw that most people wanted it.
Woke shit is absolutely not popular, certainly not popular enough to justify its inclusion in everything. The invisible hand of the market was not clamoring for morbidly obese fashion models, or for BM/WF couples in every single advertisement, or for bestiality video games. It's blatantly obvious that this shit is being pushed from the top down by people who don't care whether it hurts their bottom line.
I do think it's consistent with capitalism. Most people don't matter that much, they'll just buy whatever is heavily marketed to them.
That doesn't mean it's popular or wanted though.

Woke shit improves your standing with journalists, who are important for promoting the game.
Most likely, OTOH gaming publications should already be bribed by major gaming companies (at the minimum through advertizing, previews etc), so I'm sure the journalists would go along with anything they're told to. If anything it should be the indie developers that risk journalist scorn if they're not woke enough, but isn't wokeness spearheaded by the AAA titles? (I could be wrong about the latter.)
 

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Steve gets a Kidney but I don't even get a tag.
Have they given people the option to turn off the narrator/Dungeon Master voice?. I'd rather read what she was saying than listen to a constant monologue.

Bit like watching a foreign movie and having the option to read the subtitles rather than some spastic doing the dubs.
 

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I seem to recall Fable had a lot of chicken punting. How far could that bok-bok fly?
 

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