Unless you’re black or Texan you’re doin a heckin cultural appropriation
Re point 1 - the pandering part is also what I dislike. It's obvious they do it to increase visibility and sales. But that wasn't my point. My point was using slurs in a non sarcastic tone to describe someone's skin colour or sexuality, 2 things you can't control, is disgusting. I don't buy it that most aren't conservative Christians. Or Muslims, but unlikely.
Yes I'm actually intrigued though - but remember my point as to what I don't understand.
And I know a lot about ESG, but purely from a business angle. I'm director level at a big 4 audit firm and it's all the rage right now, there's huge money to be made here. The E part is what I legitimately think is for the greater good. However the ESG stuff itself I'm not involved in directly because the reporting angle (I'm an accountant specialising in financial reporting) is immensely boring.
Re. Point 2. I'm neither gay or black. I'm a beautiful tanned Mediterranean dweller (just kidding on the beautiful part, but my wife seems to think so).
Anyway, I'm not sure I was clear before. I find the pandering to small minorities stupid, but it can be included in a game without being so. Maybe in the future.
Having less white people doesn't make it more enjoyable. I never said that (and you know it).
yes, most people are fucking retards. how you feel you need to point this out is beyond me, but here let me let you in on a little thing, capitalism. you want to blame anything? blame that. the most milquetoast thing gets the most mileage because it's been focus tested. why's all this shit in bg3? because a company that makes a product to make money saw that most people wanted it. you and me, we are not most people just by the sheer fact we're here doing some petty argument over a game that, like it or not, is an absolutely ridiculous success by numbers alone and nobody except a brain dead retard can argue that it isn't. we play kotc2 and ultimas. that shit doesn't get played by a lot of people. it is not a governments job to raise it's citizens children nor dictate the course of society, that is the whole of the citizenry. yeah that opinions not popular here but idgaf.
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Absolutely, the developers need to get through the media noise by any means necessary. I recall Cyberpunk 2077 even removed its dildos in a patch once they had served their marketing purpose. Us gamer complaining about it on forums are basically the developers' "useful idiots", doing their viral marketing for free.
Absolutely, the developers need to get through the media noise by any means necessary. I recall Cyberpunk 2077 even removed its dildos in a patch once they had served their marketing purpose. Us gamer complaining about it on forums are basically the developers' "useful idiots", doing their viral marketing for free.
Some people posting can of course be shills helping to fan viral outrage on behalf of the developers. No offense to them for doing their ungrateful work.
Woke shit is absolutely not popular, certainly not popular enough to justify its inclusion in everything. The invisible hand of the market was not clamoring for morbidly obese fashion models, or for BM/WF couples in every single advertisement, or for bestiality video games. It's blatantly obvious that this shit is being pushed from the top down by people who don't care whether it hurts their bottom line.
Re point 1 - the pandering part is also what I dislike. It's obvious they do it to increase visibility and sales. But that wasn't my point. My point was using slurs in a non sarcastic tone to describe someone's skin colour or sexuality, 2 things you can't control, is disgusting. I don't buy it that most aren't conservative Christians. Or Muslims, but unlikely.
Yes I'm actually intrigued though - but remember my point as to what I don't understand.
And I know a lot about ESG, but purely from a business angle. I'm director level at a big 4 audit firm and it's all the rage right now, there's huge money to be made here. The E part is what I legitimately think is for the greater good. However the ESG stuff itself I'm not involved in directly because the reporting angle (I'm an accountant specialising in financial reporting) is immensely boring.
Re. Point 2. I'm neither gay or black. I'm a beautiful tanned Mediterranean dweller (just kidding on the beautiful part, but my wife seems to think so
Anyway, I'm not sure I was clear before. I find the pandering to small minorities stupid, but it can be included in a game without being so. Maybe in the future.
Having less white people doesn't make it more enjoyable. I never said that (and you know it).
You seem like a decent enough fellow. I doubt anyone is going to change anyones else's mind in this thread though. I have noticed that the people who push back against the anti-woke crowd are usually not from the west. Unless you live in one of these western or western aligned countries, and you have watched the transformation firsthand, you just don't know how much this shit is thrown around.
It happened very quickly, a lot of anti-white sentiment in all forms of media. A few things seemed to be the catalyst. Occupy Wallstreet, Trump being elected, and of course Gamergate. Movies, all forms of advertising (commercials, in store ads, billboards etc) feature significantly less white people. A lot of mixed race couples, always black male, white female. Mexicans in the US make up a sizeable portion of the population. They are featured in almost nothing. It's black people who are being put on a pedestal. The white men in movies are the nerds, the weaklings, the ones to be made fun of. Feminism has also taken a strong hold in the west. A lot of movie roles that once featured male heroes, are now mary sue females who act exactly like males. Strong, independant, never in need of anyone. It's natural for a man to want to protect a woman, and it's been taken away in all media.
There is more. A lot more. Pride Month (parades with dildos being waved around), BLM destroying cities (people actually kissing the boots and bowing down to black mobs), Black History month (rewriting history, teaching white people they were born racist). The list goes on and on.
Gaming wasn't spared. A game like BG3 comes out. It is being heralded as the greatest RPG of all time. The most impactful choice and consequences ever. Part of an absolutely beloved series. What do they feature? Sex with animals. A character creator featuring chicks with dicks. The journalist love it! Twitter loves it! And WTF??? The Codex loves it.... Yeah, it caused some pushback. And no, it wasn't mostly based on religion.
hello white America (they have more niglets and other "tanned" races than Europe can ever dream of)
The dildos were most definately for sales, or they wouldn't have been removed afterwards. But I agree there are several motives at play here:Absolutely, the developers need to get through the media noise by any means necessary. I recall Cyberpunk 2077 even removed its dildos in a patch once they had served their marketing purpose. Us gamer complaining about it on forums are basically the developers' "useful idiots", doing their viral marketing for free.
Some people posting can of course be shills helping to fan viral outrage on behalf of the developers. No offense to them for doing their ungrateful work.
They didn't put that stuff in for sales, they did it because it was a requirement for their ESG loans. Larian almost went bankrupt during development, they had to bow down to the jews to get some shekels out of them. You think they want to risk being the next Budweiser?
I do think it's consistent with capitalism. Most people don't matter that much, they'll just buy whatever is heavily marketed to them. Woke shit improves your standing with journalists, who are important for promoting the game. In other media, it also attracts sponsors who feel that such media are safe for their ads as it signals loyalty to the regime and the absence of serious risk. People also don't mind being manipulated like that. Many normies have a bizarre aversion to anything they deem "political". If you start discussing the political stances of a game or film, they'll start saying you are "overthinking" and "it's just fun", then they'll start accusing you of things like racism (which they are already convinced is bad). A recent fad is also to call your thinking conspiratorial, even though it is the equivalent of this as far as conspiracy theories go. Moreover, the woke things signal that the game is "modern", and people like the most recent thing. It's kind of like inserting emo music and "this is the new shit" in trailers in the 2000s.Woke shit is absolutely not popular, certainly not popular enough to justify its inclusion in everything. The invisible hand of the market was not clamoring for morbidly obese fashion models, or for BM/WF couples in every single advertisement, or for bestiality video games. It's blatantly obvious that this shit is being pushed from the top down by people who don't care whether it hurts their bottom line.
That doesn't mean it's popular or wanted though.
Most likely, OTOH gaming publications should already be bribed by major gaming companies (at the minimum through advertizing, previews etc), so I'm sure the journalists would go along with anything they're told to. If anything it should be the indie developers that risk journalist scorn if they're not woke enough, but isn't wokeness spearheaded by the AAA titles? (I could be wrong about the latter.)
