Baldur's Gate #BaldurGate: Siege of Dragonspear

[Zetor]

Regarding Firedorn: Obsidian actually included a druid called Firedorn as one of the bounties in the White March, with the quest text referring to him being the leader of some crazy fire-themed fanatics... thing is, I'm pretttty sure that the character was actually a woman (had a female sprite and soundset). Not sure if it's an honest mistake or trolling...

 

[kwanzabot]

Now that we mentioned Drow lesbians, I'd love an RPG where it all takes place in Drow society, HotU is kinda like that but it's from the perspective of an outsider. I'd like to be on a quest for Lolth for example or be a priestess trying to climb the ranks, or a man trying to prove himself in the matriarchal society of the Drow.

First we have to rescue D&D from the sinkhole it's gotten into, and make it relevant again. Then we gotta shove some reason into WotC's heads and grant the computer license to someone who knows what the fuck he's doing. Last, we gotta keep SJWs at bay.

fuck dnd and fuck everything you stand for

 

[varangos]

IN CASE you are wondering

tyranosaurus rex=neckbeard shitlord=kwazabot

 

[varangos]

I'm both Russian (literally CIS-country, lel), straight and christian,

no commie?

 

[Infinitron]

IN CASE you are wondering

tyranosaurus rex=neckbeard shitlord=kwazabot

You realize it's a bit cheeky for somebody with a March 2016 joindate to be making observations like these

 

[varangos]

cheeky breeky

 

[Ninjerk]

Delete all the other posts and just let Lacrymas & Stainless Veteran talk about language and storytelling. I hear there might be a writing position opening at Beamdog soon...

Ack. Thanks, bro, but sadly (or not, 'cause Edmonton really does have something in the water which turns people into ) I'm both Russian (literally CIS-country, lel), straight and christian, it's probably like (Triple) Axis of Evil for them or something. And I fear that the language and prose discussion will be swiftly moved to Retardo.

CIS scum shitlord

 

[kwanzabot]

IN CASE you are wondering

tyranosaurus rex=neckbeard shitlord=kwazabot

considering i actually have a proper job and need to shave for work so i don't look like a tramp i can't have a neckbeard reeetard




shouldn't speak out of turn while living in mom's basement, makes you seem like a bigger retard then you already are

 

[veevoir]

For the first time in my short career here I agree with kwanzabot. Fuck DnD, people tend to see it through rose tinted glasses of ye olde pnp where they were all starting playing.
Not to mention since 3rd it started to devolve into minis fighting game, putting further weight on the most retarded aspect. Combatfags wet dream, I guess, but when I want to play minis I'll just get some purely tacicular TT.

 

[Murk]

lot of newfags itt

I had no idea people loved BG 1 as much as it is getting praised (here and in other places.)

The thought of PS:T getting rewritten legitimately offends me.

 

[varangos]

we dont have basements in my country americunt.

 

[jcd]

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[kwanzabot]

we dont have basements in my country americunt.

so you dug your own basement?

how long did it take you

 

[Excidium II]

Baldur's Gate 1&2 were always complete trash. Like all infinity engine games for that matter.

Like all CRPGs, naturally.

 

[jcd]

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[mastroego]

meanwhile at the BeamDoge forums

Just a few further suggestions for changes for future releases.
http://archive.is/0kbpi


http://imgur.com/gallery/XC0POpd

Thanks, lol
Even the evil party members will be outraged: "I may be evil, but I'm still a feminist!"
"Privilege check on ability scores"
See, something good always come out of forum dramas

 

[Maculo]

The thought of PS:T getting rewritten legitimately offends me.

Don't give Beamdog any ideas.

 

[pippin]

Well they aren't supposed to be able to touch the content of the old games. They could do a SoD for PST, though... I cringe at the mere thought.

 

[Lacrymas]

They could do a SoD for PST, though... I cringe at the mere thought.

That would literally be blasphemy that would need to be purged.

 

[Immortal]

This thread went to shit fast. Still waiting for the Beamdog public announcement.

 

[Maculo]

Well they aren't supposed to be able to touch the content of the old games. They could do a SoD for PST, though... I cringe at the mere thought.

That would make Beamdog a double heretic.

 

[Morkar Left]

In my opinion, there are few things that made the outcry a lot different for two companies.

The timing, when Firedorn Saga happened, few people outside GG cared about SJWs and almost everyones reaction was "Its just a stupid poem, noone cares.". On the other hand Mizhena Saga comes at the time when there are a lot more people tired with the whole SJW bullshit, with the latest being the Overwatch ass controversy.

Reaction of Obsidian was done much better, instead of attacking or mocking their fans they simply shifted the blame from themselves and said it was authors decision to change and that they also didnt want to change it. I personally think thats bullshit but it was enough for majority of their fans.

Fans, while majority of Obsidian fans are long time followers who are willing to forgive companies mistakes as long they provide them with the games they will enjoy. Beamdog fans are not really their fans but fans of BG, and Beamdog already had a shaky relationship with them due poor releases of EE editions, inserting SJW politics was only the last drop that lead to outrage.


Personally I think Firedorn Saga is far greater wrongdoing. Obsidian shit on their fans due a complain of a random nutjob and for what, a shitty poem no sane person cared about.

As for Mizhena, I dont care about people putting trannies in games or preaching about values of diversity or any other SJW bullshit. Im all for freedom of speech and artistic freedom, if its your game you are free to do anything you want with it. So Im all for that SJW nonsense to stay in the game, but that wont stop me from saying its retarded, saying its poorly written and forced, and that I will not be buying it.

I have the impression that all the backlash Beamdog receives is actually a continuation of that "fight" that started with the PoE drama. In PoE the sjw-extremists won the fight by getting some harmless joke removed. Now, gg-extremists and associates are taking their chances to pay back this "wrong-doing" they received from PoE. I think that's actually the main reason why everything started to get that much out of control.
Beamdog not shutting their mouth wasn't helping either. That's something they have to learn from Obsidian even if it's a hard and an unfair lesson to learn. aVENGER actually was cool enough to just answer technical/gameplay related questions here in a neutral tone.

Beamdog may not have delivered the best expansion people would have loved. Personally I see a lot of technical issues with the EE compared to the original (and mods), mainly the blurred gfx (why, just why?). But I don't think 1-star reviews, a metacritic score of 3.7 and all that shitstorm is something they deserve. It's just completely out of proportion.

 

[Theldaran]

First we have to rescue D&D from the sinkhole it's gotten into, and make it relevant again. Then we gotta shove some reason into WotC's heads and grant the computer license to someone who knows what the fuck he's doing. Last, we gotta keep SJWs at bay.

fuck dnd and fuck everything you stand for

Huh? Didn't you say elsewhere you did play BG? Shifting personalities or different guy using the same account?

 

[Lyric Suite]

Only in the imagination of fags.

It's never explicit obviously (apart from the ancient Greek art) and professors have been debating what it is all about, but if you squint hard enough it's possible to see anything. Maybe it is just an imaginary projection from people, that doesn't mean Amber (and the whole conglomerate of like-minded "writers" in this industry) shouldn't take notes.

Maybe we should stop trying to "normalize" the abnormal (real world lol) and return to the ideal, like God intended (literally lel).

Let's just ruin all art and all forms of entertainment in order to appease the 2% who likes to roll the 2+2=5 way. What could go wrong. Ride the bull indeed.

 

[PhantasmaNL]

This thread went to shit fast. Still waiting for the Beamdog public announcement.

Will never happen. They probably rather crash and burn while virtue signaling.

I do feel bad for the normal employees though, the regular guys and girls probably doing the real work, while getting torpedoed by Amber and her clique, hell bent on poisoning everything they touch.