Baldur's Gate #BaldurGate: Siege of Dragonspear

[Lhynn]

There was a time when those ugly 3D graphics were praised

How are you surprised by this?

 

[Tao]

It's one after another.

http://imgur.com/a/ASid5

That nope is the culmination of a master writer right there

I dont even know what to choose because all the answer anger them XD

Are the journal entries really that short? Like if you check your journal is that all it says?

It say less. That was one of my first let down with this expansion.

What a disappointment. I'm guessing the quests are as simple as the entries then.

As far as i am now in the game, yes they are. I did one or two interesting quests outside the main plot that requiere "out of the box" thinking like one with a doppelganger and later another one with some dwarfs in a cave but nothing too hard, they are pretty much straighfoward.

But as i said im no to far in the game. So i cant tell

Here, the journal entries

http://postimg.org/image/89t9pksgh/

One positive thing to said is that you can copy the documents you find around in the journal if you want.

 

[Infinitron]

Roguey I think a lot of gamers felt like they were being "gaslit" by the media during those years. "No, these graphics are amazing! Everybody agrees!" See also: NWN.

Created a lot of trauma that eventually looped back into various forms of 2D nostalgia that we see today.

 

[Black]

Welp, all good things come to an end
Honestly surprised that they came to their senses after doubling down.

 

[pippin]

There was a time when those ugly 3D graphics were praised

Might and Magic 6 was praised for the novelty of 3d and free movement. Somepeople thought it was like a really huge leap forward. I have nothing against mm6's graphics but the models, esp.some of the enemies', look.... dated, and too simplistic sometimes.
I have nothing against LARPing portraits, actually. In fact I find them kind of endearing.

 

[Immortal]

Welp, all good things come to an end
Honestly surprised that they came to their senses after doubling down.

I'm still mad.. They just kowtowed out of desperation.
I want Amber & Dee fired and Gaider beaten with a stick.. Just in case.

 

[Black]

Gaider beaten with a stick.

Well yeah but people have been wanting this for ages.

 

[Hegel]

NWN marketing was so fraudulent. We'll let you import your BGII characters! Party based gameplay? Well, of course.

 

[Immortal]

NWN marketing was so fraudulent. We'll let you import your BGII characters! Party based gameplay? Well, of course.

NWN1 was revolutionary. Don't be a whiney baby.
That game still gives me hours of enjoyment.

 

[Roguey]

How are you surprised by this?

I was around at the time and thought it looked frightfully ugly compared to World of Xeen.

 

[pippin]

NWN.

With NWN it was a different case. I clearly remember the screenshots for every preview featured in pc gaming mags, and they were shinier and more colorful than what we finally saw. Lots of dark here and there, but those screens WEREN'T the same. I swear it had to be a different build or something like that, because there's noway those screens looked like the finished product.
Also, most of the marketing was geared towards online interaction and mods. People waiting for a single player experience didn't read the marketing campaing properly.

Fake edit: like this

NWN marketing was so fraudulent. We'll let you import your BGII characters! Party based gameplay? Well, of course.

This is something mentioned in BG2, not during NWN's marketing campaign. You can't really blame him for not getting hyped, though, but it uickly became apparent NWN was going to be a different kind of game.

Although I have to admit NWN's lightning effects and other magic fluff was impressive, even today. Where other games have treated magic like they treat gore (a shapeless blob of things going on in the screen), NWN had a very distinct set of effects to portray magic. I really love that.

 

[Black]

Well, to be clear, I'm not apologizing because of the backlash that my tweet received (I received some very unkind retweets and mentions in the day that followed); I'm apologizing because I realized that I was giving the controversy more light than it needed or deserved--which wasn't fair to the fans who had legitimate concerns about the writing or the bugs, nor to the people I work with.

We weren't in the wrong, everyone else was.

 

[Hegel]

Smug kid, the day she has to drive for Uber open a patreon to pay the bills can't come soon enough.

 

[Black]

Smug kid, the day she has to drive for Uber open a patreon to pay the bills can't come soon enough.

He. It's this Dee guy's post.
https://forums.beamdog.com/discussion/51165/beamdogs-official-statement-4-6-2016/p3

 

[DeepOcean]

BeamDung, you just needed to copy paste Baldur's Gate city, added a few side quests, placed some effort on the writing to be less boring and you would have sales. An expansion of an old game is a hard sell, you need to give reasons for people to buy it. If your customers played you game and gone saying "Man, I played this expansion for BG 1, it was almost a BG 3 in quality, there were interesting places to see, interesting characters to see, interesting shit to do, it was awesome." instead of "Well, there was a tranny in there and I felt I heard Fuck you Cis White Male everytime an woman opened her mouth." maybe the sales would come.

 

[Black]

@TheBeamBard's Tweets are protected.

Awww No fun at all.

 

[Zed Duke of Banville]

In Morrowind, a group of cultists of Sheogorath the Daedric Prince of Madness includes an Orc who insists he's a Khajiit:

Greeting - Meow
Background - I'm Ra'Gruzgob, the Khajiit.
Dance - Don't you know what's going on? Go down and talk to Hlireni Indavel in the Antechamber -- back behind the big room with the Sheogorath statue. There're free drinks, too. And watch out for the gold-hats. They play rough.
or No, no. Hlireni Indavel says you and the savages don't want to dance. And we're just guests, so we do what the hostess says. But if you change your mind, and want to take a shot at me, go ahead. Just remember -- what goes for you, goes for the Ashlanders, too, bucko.
Khajiit - That's right. Ra'Gruzgob the Khajiit. How do you like my tail? Uh... What? You never seen a Khajiit before? Looks fine Hey, Ra'Gruzgob likes you. or Hey, Ra'Gruzgob likes you. Maybe Ra'Gruzgob tells you a little secret.
Little Secret - No moon sugar, no secrets. or Got any moon sugar for your pal Ra'Gruzgob? Yes, here it is Ra'Gruzgob knows something you'd like. Ra'Gruzgob put it under his pillow. For the sugar-fairy. No, nevermind No moon sugar? No moon sugar for poor Ra'Gruzgob? Damn fleas...
Meow - Meow. or You like Ra'Gruzgob? Ra'Gruzgob likes you.
My Trade - Are you blind? Ra'Gruzgob's a Khajiit.
Orc - Orc? Ra'Gruzgob is no Orc!
Ra'Gruzgob - Fifty drakes, same as in town. or Why you look at Ra'Gruzgob that way? or I said, "Ra'Gruzgob wants some MORE MOON SUGAR HERE!" or Hey, Lustidrike! Ra'Gruzgob wants some MORE MOON SUGAR HERE! or Ra'Gruzgob wants some MORE MOON SUGAR HERE!

I don't recall anyone reacting badly towards the presence of this trans character, but then Morrowind wasn't pushing an agenda.

 

[Nekot-The-Brave]

Well, fuck me in the ass and call me Susan, I've finally finished BG 1. 70 fucking hours. Holy! I thought this was gonna be a lot shorter than BG 2. Time to see what this expansion is about.

70 hours? Man, I don't know what you did, but alright. I mean, I beat the game 3 times and attempted to do everything each time and I only reached like 68 hours.

I was playing with SCS on my very first playthrough. It's not exactly a forgiving mod. Had to reload A LOT.

makes sense, cool.

 

[Xenich]

In Morrowind, a group of cultists of Sheogorath the Daedric Prince of Madness includes an Orc who insists he's a Khajiit:

Greeting - Meow
Background - I'm Ra'Gruzgob, the Khajiit.
Dance - Don't you know what's going on? Go down and talk to Hlireni Indavel in the Antechamber -- back behind the big room with the Sheogorath statue. There're free drinks, too. And watch out for the gold-hats. They play rough.
or No, no. Hlireni Indavel says you and the savages don't want to dance. And we're just guests, so we do what the hostess says. But if you change your mind, and want to take a shot at me, go ahead. Just remember -- what goes for you, goes for the Ashlanders, too, bucko.
Khajiit - That's right. Ra'Gruzgob the Khajiit. How do you like my tail? Uh... What? You never seen a Khajiit before? Looks fine Hey, Ra'Gruzgob likes you. or Hey, Ra'Gruzgob likes you. Maybe Ra'Gruzgob tells you a little secret.
Little Secret - No moon sugar, no secrets. or Got any moon sugar for your pal Ra'Gruzgob? Yes, here it is Ra'Gruzgob knows something you'd like. Ra'Gruzgob put it under his pillow. For the sugar-fairy. No, nevermind No moon sugar? No moon sugar for poor Ra'Gruzgob? Damn fleas...
Meow - Meow. or You like Ra'Gruzgob? Ra'Gruzgob likes you.
My Trade - Are you blind? Ra'Gruzgob's a Khajiit.
Orc - Orc? Ra'Gruzgob is no Orc!
Ra'Gruzgob - Fifty drakes, same as in town. or Why you look at Ra'Gruzgob that way? or I said, "Ra'Gruzgob wants some MORE MOON SUGAR HERE!" or Hey, Lustidrike! Ra'Gruzgob wants some MORE MOON SUGAR HERE! or Ra'Gruzgob wants some MORE MOON SUGAR HERE!

I don't recall anyone reacting badly towards the presence of this trans character, but then Morrowind wasn't pushing an agenda.

Well, if the objection was just that it was a tranny and everyone was upset specifically about there being any such concept in the game, you might have a point.

Then again, if you had actually read what all this is about and understand the difference between politicizing and that of parody commentary or similar pop culture adaption and reference you might not look ignorant.

You carry on with your narrative in that bubble of yours.

 

[holla_cabezas_de_mierda]

PoE would be the far superior product if they had just used D&D

You mean like Neverwinter Nights 2?

There's nothing untrue about that statement.

NW2 was more fun than PoE too, its main failure was its camera. Again the only reason it was more fun was because D&D. PoE would be more fun than SoD and NWN2 if it had been based on D&D too. All these examples to me prove this point over and over.

 

[Roguey]

Unless this is unlocked by beating LoB, what an odd thing to hide.

NW2 was more fun than PoE too, its main failure was its camera.

I thought it was one of the worst games ever created, so I doubt I'll share this opinion. I'm sure Pillars has nothing close to the inept creature spawn triggers NWN2 had.

 

[santino27]

I think POE is a lot more polished/professional than NWN2 was, but it might also be less interesting.

 

[kwanzabot]

nwn2 is dogshit
poe was dogshit


why are people even playing these dogshit games, i don't think i got like more then 2-3 hours into either of them before setting the former on fire and i only had a digital copy of poe so i couldnt set it on fire

 

[holla_cabezas_de_mierda]

"I thought it was one of the worst games ever created, so I doubt I'll share this opinion. I'm sure Pillars has nothing close to the inept creature spawn triggers NWN2 had."


well to be fair to your point, I will admit I have only played NWN2 storm of zehir and nothing else. To me story and even Choices and consequences is a distant second or third compared to character development (technical, not story wise), combat, and creature lore and itemization, all of which D&D does very well IMO. Better than most could hope simply whip up in a couple years.

 

[Mexi]

Huh, not bad from Trent Oster. Also, he won't publicly shame an employee. I've worked for some lady who used to yell at employees with her office door open. Sounds like the most embarrassing thing ever.

I also have to wonder how these people get jobs like this. Tons of English majors looking for work, and they hire this lady who isn't even trying to please the game's fanbase. It's like working the service industry and telling customers to go suck a dick if they don't like your attiude.