Baldur's Gate Baldur's Gate 3 Early Access Thread [GAME RELEASED, GO TO NEW THREAD]

[Zeriel]

MORE OPTIONS IS LE BAD!

When the "option" is eradicating the entire identity of a character, yeah.

To be honest, this has always been weird, going back decades. But at least Infinity Engine 2E days had the ruleset basically making it very hard to multi/dual-class after the fact, so you couldn't turn Imoen into a barbarian. This level of nonsense just makes characters utterly meaningless.

Are you seriously upset that people can multiclass/respec companions or did I miss something

I'm not upset, I just find it stupid. Upset would mean I had any expectations for the game in the first place.

 

[Kiste]

I'm not upset, I just find it stupid. Upset would mean I had any expectations for the game in the first place.

Just out of interest, which game is your personal giga incline paragon of the CRPG genre?

 

[La vie sexuelle]

"Drizzt Race".

Any entire race for me to kill off for their gear to equip my party members.

Lolth Drows are generally cool race. They have BDSM, slavery and edgy matriarch.

"Drizzt Race".

Any entire race for me to kill off for their gear to equip my party members.

Reminder that both BG1 and BG2 had prompts where Drizzt would attack you for being an impostor if your character was named "Drizzt".

I assume the character was so popular that there would be people actually giving their elf bhaalspawn dark skin color and naming him Drizzt? Smh

That's pretty funny. Imagine being the type of guy that likes drizzzzzzthht so much that you make a character to roleplay as him. Spending an hour rolling up the perfect stats, writing a bio, drawing your own custom portrait. Then you run in to the real one in game! Fuck yeah! However, after a short dialogue, you're promptly sliced to ribbons and left to rot in a ditch by your idol. Real sad. Oh fuck! You haven't saved in over an hour! You close your laptop just as the tears begin to tickle your cheekbones.

That's why old Bioware was cool company. Good creator is dedicated to own craft,, but also know his audience and have sense of irony. Just like Larian now

...

I was joking when I predicted Swen would give out the reviewers' keys to people who prove they took leave from work and pay them per hour played. Now I'll go suggest this under this tweet.

I like Swen, Larian etc. but if I was a boss, I would fire person who send this to me.

 

[blessed king of longing]

so this is what the haters were referring to as good writing/voice acting when shitting on bg3?

 

[whydoibother]

so this is what the haters were referring to as good writing/voice acting when shitting on bg3?

Does he include THAT mod for Imoen?

 

[whydoibother]

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Swen seems extremely based

He just wanted to pay homage to cult classic cRPG Divinity Original Sin, where you could pickpocket panties of little girls.

 

[Pizzashoes]

The tadpoles already cause the characters to share thoughts. Why not share abilities too? And skin as well. One classless, raceless, sexless, amorphous blob both divine and profane. Is that what you want? Is that what Divinity Original Sin means?

 

[Saravan]

MORE OPTIONS IS LE BAD!

When the "option" is eradicating the entire identity of a character, yeah.

To be honest, this has always been weird, going back decades. But at least Infinity Engine 2E days had the ruleset basically making it very hard to multi/dual-class after the fact, so you couldn't turn Imoen into a barbarian. This level of nonsense just makes characters utterly meaningless.

Are you seriously upset that people can multiclass/respec companions or did I miss something

I know your KM/WotR ‘builds’ rely on modding out the game’s restrictions on companions but it’s gay to allow full respec. Class and attribute distribution has always been a big factor for character narrative which is also why the game will still treat Wyll as a warlock or Shadowheart as a cleric regardless of respec. Dealing with subpar attribute distribution is also part of the challenge.

I could understand multiclass after lvl 1 however.

 

[whydoibother]

MORE OPTIONS IS LE BAD!

When the "option" is eradicating the entire identity of a character, yeah.

To be honest, this has always been weird, going back decades. But at least Infinity Engine 2E days had the ruleset basically making it very hard to multi/dual-class after the fact, so you couldn't turn Imoen into a barbarian. This level of nonsense just makes characters utterly meaningless.

Are you seriously upset that people can multiclass/respec companions or did I miss something

I know your KM/WotR ‘builds’ rely on modding out the game’s restrictions on companions but it’s gay to allow full respec. Class and attribute distribution has always been a big factor for character narrative which is also why the game will still treat Wyll as a warlock or Shadowheart as a cleric regardless of respec. Dealing with subpar attribute distribution is also part of the challenge.

I could understand multiclass after lvl 1 however.

I would've prefered companions to be forced with their starting stats, and you can respect their extra levels after level 1. Not their "character creator" basic level and abilities.
HOWEVER people were whining about Shadowheart's stats so much during EA, you'd think its a game breaking bug. Plus if they release a modding kit, and with the way AI voice copying is developing, maybe people will mod companions to be a different class, including different dialogue.

At any rate, its a feature that I won't use. If I want to respec a companion, it will be within their lore class. Seems like a feature for people who skip dialogue and cutscenes, and just want to play XCOM with swords.

 

[Yosharian]

it’s gay to allow full respec.

My mistake I thought I was talking to an adult

 

[Yosharian]

I would've prefered companions to be forced with their starting stats

So you would prefer that other people can't play the game the way they want to.

That's.. really fascinating.

 

[Saravan]

it’s gay to allow full respec.

My mistake I thought I was talking to an adult

Yeah then tackle the arguments put worth after that sentence instead of acting like a retard.

All these restriction removals are going to turn the game piss easy and also make no sense narratively (clearly because the game won’t even acknowledge the change). Your obsession with starting with perfect companions from a stat perspective is bad game design any way you look at it.

 

[whydoibother]

I would've prefered companions to be forced with their starting stats

So you would prefer that other people can't play the game the way they want to.

Trueeeee, dooood. They should also implement the ability to change Wyll into a Ford Escort. That's how I want to play, rolling down the field in my Ford Escort, shooting fireballs from the open window.
You wouldn't be so cruel as to deny me the way I want to play, right?

 

[Yosharian]

it’s gay to allow full respec.

My mistake I thought I was talking to an adult

Yeah then tackle the arguments put worth after that sentence instead of acting like a retard.

All these restriction removals are going to turn the game piss easy and also make no sense narratively (clearly because the game won’t even acknowledge the change). Your obsession with starting with perfect companions from a stat perspective is bad game design any way you look at it.

Try making some arguments that aren't moronic and then I'd have something meaningful to respond to?

The points you made so far could be dismantled by a trained monkey.

 

[Grunker]

I would've prefered companions to be forced with their starting stats

So you would prefer that other people can't play the game the way they want to.

That's.. really fascinating.

It’s incredible how strong opinions people who’re allegedly not going to use these options have about them.

Based Larian letting builders play with the toys they made instead of being typical modern developers telling the player they can only do what Larian wants them to do is fast becoming a redemption story for the transgressions of DOS2

it’s gay to allow full respec.

My mistake I thought I was talking to an adult

Yeah then tackle the arguments put worth after that sentence instead of acting like a retard.

All these restriction removals are going to turn the game piss easy and also make no sense narratively (clearly because the game won’t even acknowledge the change). Your obsession with starting with perfect companions from a stat perspective is bad game design any way you look at it.

Try making some arguments

Can’t make arguments in a case where the only meaningful objection is “I don’t like the vague feeling of uncomfortableness it gives me to know that someone else’s Shadowheart might kick people in the teeth during gameplay because they’re more interested in toying with builds than in adhering to a connection between combat and dialogue that the game doesn’t recognize anyway”

 

[Saravan]

I would've prefered companions to be forced with their starting stats

So you would prefer that other people can't play the game the way they want to.

That's.. really fascinating.

This is a bullshit argument. Ok why even have rules at all just sElF iMpoSe everything. Freedom for everyone! The point is that the game difficulty must be balanced around something and if full respec and broken haste is implemented, it is very likely the game accounts for that at hardest difficulty so you still end up being affected by it.

 

[Yosharian]

I would've prefered companions to be forced with their starting stats

So you would prefer that other people can't play the game the way they want to.

Trueeeee, dooood. They should also implement the ability to change Wyll into a Ford Escort. That's how I want to play, rolling down the field in my Ford Escort, shooting fireballs from the open window.
You wouldn't be so cruel as to deny me the way I want to play, right?

That's sensible. A player's desire to modify Shadowheart's starting Dexterity is definitely analogous to wanting her to change into an automobile.

Are you 12?

 

[Saravan]

Lmao you guys don’t understand shit about balance enjoy trivialised combat.

 

[whydoibother]

That's sensible. A player's desire to modify Shadowheart's starting Dexterity is definitely analogous to wanting her to change into an automobile.

The original argument was about changing the starting class. Making Wyll not have any levels of Warlock, even though his quest is about his patron demon and his dialogue is about making a pact.

 

[Saravan]

This is just to make Yosharian’s builds work he doesn’t know how to make them unless every companion has MC hyperoptimised stat distribution.

 

[Grunker]

I would've prefered companions to be forced with their starting stats

So you would prefer that other people can't play the game the way they want to.

That's.. really fascinating.

This is a bullshit argument. Ok why even have rules at all just sElF iMpoSe everything. Freedom for everyone! The point is that the game difficulty must be balanced around something and if full respec and broken haste is implemented, it is very likely the game accounts for that at hardest difficulty so you still end up being affected by it.

As if the game wouldn’t be better if we had the ability to houserule almost everything. You know, just like we can (and almost all groups do) in P&P

 

[Grunker]

That's sensible. A player's desire to modify Shadowheart's starting Dexterity is definitely analogous to wanting her to change into an automobile.

The original argument was about changing the starting class. Making Wyll not have any levels of Warlock, even though his quest is about his patron demon and his dialogue is about making a pact.

There’s only the computer and me, and neither of us care.

 

[AwesomeButton]

It’s incredible how strong opinions people who’re allegedly not going to use these options have about them.

it is very likely the game accounts for that at hardest difficulty so you still end up being affected by it.

Take my word, it's much more likely the game doesn't account for respec than that it does

 

[Yosharian]

That's sensible. A player's desire to modify Shadowheart's starting Dexterity is definitely analogous to wanting her to change into an automobile.

The original argument was about changing the starting class. Making Wyll not have any levels of Warlock, even though his quest is about his patron demon and his dialogue is about making a pact.

Changing Wyll into a Wizard is also not analogous to changing him into a vehicle with wheels, dude.

 

[Non-Edgy Gamer]

so this is what the haters were referring to as good writing/voice acting when shitting on bg3?

Are you unironically watching this stupid spoiler narration, done by someone who hasn't even played the end of the saga (ToB)?