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Even on reddit, people are mocking BG3.
That is from the Baldur's Gate subreddit. Fans of the Baldur's Gate trilogy have been mocking BG3 since it was unveiled, because it is Baldur's Gate in name only.

The BG3 subreddit is where all of the Larian and Original Sin fans reside and they are very content with what they are getting, which is more Original Sin.
 

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Don't get Victor going again, please. Broken clocks display more variance in their face value than the amount of variance in Victor's posts.
 

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What's the problem? The zoomer has exposed those old boomer RPG's as the overhyped mediocre trash that they really are.
Go kill yourself,retard.
Hush hush now my sweet summer child, your suffering will be over soon when BG3 fully gets released. From then on the Baldur's Gate name will only be associated with BG3, the older boomer trash will be forgotten and only remembered by a small group of autists on the codex.

Or ... Will be considered too boomer for Larian fanboys and too modern for BG1/2 fanboys and have the same fate of lawbreakers which din't pleased old school arena shooter fans nor modern hero shooter fans. People are posting memes like

892tnl6ftr171.jpg


fxmph9onf4t61.jpg


On REEDDIT

https://www.reddit.com/r/baldursgate/comments/nmnj6i/i_know_this_has_get_off_my_lawn_young_people/

https://www.reddit.com/r/baldursgate/comments/mqo8yz/2e_mage_vs_5e_wizard/

Even on reddit, people are mocking BG3.
Lmfao, that "baldurs gate" boomer subreddit has only 45k members. Meanwhile BG3 hasn't even launched and its subreddit already has 75k members.

It's even worse than I thought, the old BG boomer rpg's will be forgetten very fast.
 

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Maybe if larian didn't have full voice acting/ mo-cap they could have had better dialogue. Having to shoot and voice everything means there's incentive to make it quicker to the point (too quick) and makes it so you can't rewrite or add anything later.

Oh wait. Their writing was shit before it was fully voiced and mo-capped too.

Lmfao, that "baldurs gate" boomer subreddit has only 45k members. Meanwhile BG3 hasn't even launched and its subreddit already has 75k members.

It's even worse than I thought, the old BG boomer rpg's will be forgetten very fast.

"I can't tell what a good game is so I just judge it by whether other people like it. Please someone tell me what to like"
 

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Maybe if larian didn't have full voice acting/ mo-cap they could have had better dialogue. Having to shoot and voice everything means there's incentive to make it quicker to the point (too quick) and makes it so you can't rewrite or add anything later.

Oh wait. Their writing was shit before it was fully voiced and mo-capped too.

Lmfao, that "baldurs gate" boomer subreddit has only 45k members. Meanwhile BG3 hasn't even launched and its subreddit already has 75k members.

It's even worse than I thought, the old BG boomer rpg's will be forgetten very fast.

"I can't tell what a good game is so I just judge it by whether other people like it. Please someone tell me what to like"
Larian's writing is shit for a few decades already,there is no chance of fixing it. DOS's writing was a total mess,all over the wall,very disjointed and irrational. Can't remember a single lore thing from the game,while remembering most of divine divinity. It is amazing how much they had fallen.
 

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Lmfao, that "baldurs gate" boomer subreddit has only 45k members. Meanwhile BG3 hasn't even launched and its subreddit already has 75k members.
Damn. This must wreck Victor real hard.

Nope. I never denied that Larian is popular after decades of decline. He is right, just like normies associate fallout with BUGthesda titles, people will associate BG with Larian titles. So what? I also don't hate Larian. Larian is a symptom of the decline, not the disease. The causes of the decline are mostly by consoles and mmos. And yes, Larian AAA RPG's are less awful than modern BUGThesda/BioWare.

But still inferior to KoTC and other lesser budget games.

And by the way that baldur’s gate reddit is full of rabid EE apologists which undermines anything that comes out of it.

EE has a lot of problems, but I don't get you, defending Larian and criticizing EE.
 

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Maybe if larian didn't have full voice acting/ mo-cap they could have had better dialogue. Having to shoot and voice everything means there's incentive to make it quicker to the point (too quick) and makes it so you can't rewrite or add anything later.

Oh wait. Their writing was shit before it was fully voiced and mo-capped too.

Lmfao, that "baldurs gate" boomer subreddit has only 45k members. Meanwhile BG3 hasn't even launched and its subreddit already has 75k members.

It's even worse than I thought, the old BG boomer rpg's will be forgetten very fast.

"I can't tell what a good game is so I just judge it by whether other people like it. Please someone tell me what to like"
Again I asked you schizos what metrics we should us then to measure if a game is good or not. I got no answer because you know you're a bunch of retards.
 

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What's the problem? The zoomer has exposed those old boomer RPG's as the overhyped mediocre trash that they really are.
Go kill yourself,retard.
Hush hush now my sweet summer child, your suffering will be over soon when BG3 fully gets released. From then on the Baldur's Gate name will only be associated with BG3, the older boomer trash will be forgotten and only remembered by a small group of autists on the codex.

Or ... Will be considered too boomer for Larian fanboys and too modern for BG1/2 fanboys and have the same fate of lawbreakers which din't pleased old school arena shooter fans nor modern hero shooter fans. People are posting memes like

892tnl6ftr171.jpg


fxmph9onf4t61.jpg


On REEDDIT

https://www.reddit.com/r/baldursgate/comments/nmnj6i/i_know_this_has_get_off_my_lawn_young_people/

https://www.reddit.com/r/baldursgate/comments/mqo8yz/2e_mage_vs_5e_wizard/

Even on reddit, people are mocking BG3.
Lmfao, that "baldurs gate" boomer subreddit has only 45k members. Meanwhile BG3 hasn't even launched and its subreddit already has 75k members.

It's even worse than I thought, the old BG boomer rpg's will be forgetten very fast.
Baldur's gate was already 7 years old when reddit was born.
 

Swen

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What's the problem? The zoomer has exposed those old boomer RPG's as the overhyped mediocre trash that they really are.
Go kill yourself,retard.
Hush hush now my sweet summer child, your suffering will be over soon when BG3 fully gets released. From then on the Baldur's Gate name will only be associated with BG3, the older boomer trash will be forgotten and only remembered by a small group of autists on the codex.

Or ... Will be considered too boomer for Larian fanboys and too modern for BG1/2 fanboys and have the same fate of lawbreakers which din't pleased old school arena shooter fans nor modern hero shooter fans. People are posting memes like

892tnl6ftr171.jpg


fxmph9onf4t61.jpg


On REEDDIT

https://www.reddit.com/r/baldursgate/comments/nmnj6i/i_know_this_has_get_off_my_lawn_young_people/

https://www.reddit.com/r/baldursgate/comments/mqo8yz/2e_mage_vs_5e_wizard/

Even on reddit, people are mocking BG3.
Lmfao, that "baldurs gate" boomer subreddit has only 45k members. Meanwhile BG3 hasn't even launched and its subreddit already has 75k members.

It's even worse than I thought, the old BG boomer rpg's will be forgetten very fast.
Baldur's gate was already 7 years old when reddit was born.
Damn so the old BG boomer games had a decade+ head start and still only could gather 45k autists who are interested in the old BG games...so sad and pathetic.
 

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Again I asked you schizos what metrics we should us then to measure if a game is good or not. I got no answer because you know you're a bunch of retards.
You can discuss what things it did well and not just yell "It's popular! It's popular" 30 times with slight variations on the screen shot you pick to "prove" that it's good
 

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Again I asked you schizos what metrics we should us then to measure if a game is good or not. I got no answer because you know you're a bunch of retards.
You can discuss what things it did well and not just yell "It's popular! It's popular" 30 times with slight variations on the screen shot you pick to "prove" that it's good
You're talking about your own opinion but your or mine opinion is not a global accepted standard to measure the quality of a game, hence we have reviews. And a metascore gives us an average of multiple reviews giving us better metric than your own opinion.

Again like the coward you are you won't answer my question. What metrics should we use to measure if a game is good or not, ANSWER THE QUESTION COWARD!
 

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I really wanted to play KotC2 but it's not popular enough. Anyone have any similar games I could play that are a little more popular? Preferably as close to KotC2 as possible except for the amount of players on steam. preferably, it would have at least 10 thousand reviews. I can't know if I like the game otherwise
 

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Again I asked you schizos what metrics we should us then to measure if a game is good or not. I got no answer because you know you're a bunch of retards.
You can discuss what things it did well and not just yell "It's popular! It's popular" 30 times with slight variations on the screen shot you pick to "prove" that it's good

Yep. There are no good metrics to determine the quality of an game. I mean, popularity indicates popularity and nothing more. Profits / costs indicate how profitable an RPG is and so on.

Again like the coward you are you won't answer my question. What metrics should we use to measure if a game is good or not, ANSWER THE QUESTION COWARD!

There is no good metric for a game quality. However, there are indicators of BAD quality. Eg :
  • If game journos doesn't write shit like "it is overwhelming" is because the game target audience = brainets and the game is shallow.
  • If the game mechanics and game lore are in completely different planes, the game is bad.
I really wanted to play KotC2 but it's not popular enough. Anyone have any similar games I could play that are a little more popular?

Yep. The best AI in a turn based game ever. A epic campaign, with a amazing creation kit, but no, due lack of marketing budget and high difficulty, can't be popular, according to some people, it means that the game is bad...

nd a metascore gives us an average of multiple reviews giving us better metric than your own opinion.

Metascore indicates how popular the game is among game journalists. Doesn't even indicate how popular the game is among his target audience.
 

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nd a metascore gives us an average of multiple reviews giving us better metric than your own opinion.

Metascore indicates how popular the game is among game journalists. Doesn't even indicate how popular the game is among his target audience.

I agree with the last part, but for that we have steam reviews. And as we all know DOS2 has 100.000+ positive steam reviews by players. BG3 has 35.000+ positive reviews so far.

But you give no good alternative for the metacritic score.
 

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I agree with the last part, but for that we have steam reviews. And as we all know DOS2 has 100.000+ positive steam reviews by players. BG3 has 35.000+ positive reviews so far.

But you give no good alternative for the metacritic score.

How big the numbers are don't even mean shit for statistics. Statistics like this should be per capita. The fact that steam only has thumbs up and thumbs down makes it pathetic even for review standards. If you go on steam you can find a bunch of games that are better than bg3 based off of review score alone.

If the whole point is that metacritic and other review conglomerates don't mean shit, why the fuck would you ask for an alternative? You want to know if a game is good? Play it, discuss it, and be able to defend your positions past popularity.
 

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nd a metascore gives us an average of multiple reviews giving us better metric than your own opinion.

Metascore indicates how popular the game is among game journalists. Doesn't even indicate how popular the game is among his target audience.

I agree with the last part, but for that we have steam reviews. And as we all know DOS2 has 100.000+ positive steam reviews by players. BG3 has 35.000+ positive reviews so far.

But you give no good alternative for the metacritic score.

And I agree that Larian is extremely popular and people like myself who dont like Larian games are less than 2%. But a 3~4/5 on GoG user score often indicates that a game is "divisive", not "average'. In the case of kingmaker, the game is loved by some and considered "unfair" and "bad" by others. There is no objective metric. I honestly don't have a good metric. DOS2 is loved by critiques, is loved by Steam Players, is loved by GoG players, nobody can't deny that it is popular. I just don't like.

It shows that DOS2 is popular. Nothing more, northing less. Part due Larian merits, part due the fact that other AAA studios are awful. Fallout 76, Mass Effect Andromeda, DOS2 looks way better than it is due the concurrency being extremely worse. And a lot of people only buys AAA games.

With shooters, nobody say that a game like Escape from Tarkov is bad cuz it is not popular as CoD/BF. Nor that liking more tactical games is "being boomer", it only happens with RPG and IDK why.
 

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I agree with the last part, but for that we have steam reviews. And as we all know DOS2 has 100.000+ positive steam reviews by players. BG3 has 35.000+ positive reviews so far.

But you give no good alternative for the metacritic score.

How big the numbers are don't even mean shit for statistics. Statistics like this should be per capita. The fact that steam only has thumbs up and thumbs down makes it pathetic even for review standards. If you go on steam you can find a bunch of games that are better than bg3 based off of review score alone.

If the whole point is that metacritic and other review conglomerates don't mean shit, why the fuck would you ask for an alternative? You want to know if a game is good? Play it, discuss it, and be able to defend your positions past popularity.
Steam reviews are per capita.

That's why there's for example "overly positive" and if you hover your mouse on the number of steam reviews you can see the percentage of all reviews who say it's good.


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And as expected you give no alternative for a metascore.
 
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nd a metascore gives us an average of multiple reviews giving us better metric than your own opinion.

Metascore indicates how popular the game is among game journalists. Doesn't even indicate how popular the game is among his target audience.

I agree with the last part, but for that we have steam reviews. And as we all know DOS2 has 100.000+ positive steam reviews by players. BG3 has 35.000+ positive reviews so far.

But you give no good alternative for the metacritic score.

And I agree that Larian is extremely popular and people like myself who dont like Larian games are less than 2%. But a 3~4/5 on GoG user score often indicates that a game is "divisive", not "average'. In the case of kingmaker, the game is loved by some and considered "unfair" and "bad" by others. There is no objective metric. I honestly don't have a good metric. DOS2 is loved by critiques, is loved by Steam Players, is loved by GoG players, nobody can't deny that it is popular. I just don't like.

It shows that DOS2 is popular. Nothing more, northing less. Part due Larian merits, part due the fact that other AAA studios are awful. Fallout 76, Mass Effect Andromeda, DOS2 looks way better than it is due the concurrency being extremely worse. And a lot of people only buys AAA games.

With shooters, nobody say that a game like Escape from Tarkov is bad cuz it is not popular as CoD/BF. Nor that liking more tactical games is "being boomer", it only happens with RPG and IDK why.
Look I'm also not a fan of modern soy reviewers but I believe a metascore is the best we have to measure the quality of a game. (+ steam reviews)

But I appreciate that you admit you don't have a good alternative metric.
 

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But a 3~4/5 on GoG user score often indicates that a game is "divisive", not "average'.

About the GOG's rating on BG3. Maybe I'm wrong, but looking at the page, there is a section with this.

Verified-Owners-Review-BG3.png


In particular the number I put into the red box got my attention. Correct me if I'm wrong, but wouldn't that mean that the people that actually owns the game gave it an score of 4.2, which is roughly Solasta's score? Seems to me that the opinion of those who played would be not so much divisive, but "good but with significant flaws". Many reviews I read do hate the game for being so different to BG I and BG II, which is understandable, I'm still of the opinion that marketing it as BG3 is very scummy, but they don't necessarily represent the opinion of the playerbase as a whole, at least I think.
 

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