Baldur's Gate Baldur's Gate 3 Early Access Thread [GAME RELEASED, GO TO NEW THREAD]

[Quillon]

You're the tadpole. Player is a tadpole.

Player could be any one of the companions in addition to being a custom character tho.

 

[Yosharian]

To post something on topic again, on how much crack were the people at Larian when they designed Shadowheart? From a gameplay perspective she is awfull.

The only character that should ever have negative dex in 5e is someone wearing heavy armor. As a cleric she could wear heavy armor, if she took any of the subclasses that give the prof. But instead the give her trickery, the single most dex reliant domain? Half her proficiencies are on dex skills despite her having -1 in that. With medium armor her AC is awfull, and half her cleric features are useless on her.

Also it doesn't help that the best cleric lvl 2 spell in spiritual weapon is missing. Literally all she is good for is a guiding bolt bot that throws a healing word once in a blue moon.

I'm guessing the response to this will be 'it doesn't matter because you can make your own custom companions'

Or 'she's still good because X and Y, so it doesn't matter'

 

[Desiderius]

Valerie was purposefully designed by someone to be a stronk independent wahmen in-joke because she was the most shit fighter you could generate basically.

I'm pretty sure she will also always get her ass kicked by her paladin mentor after she trash talks his order, get left with a scar on her face as reminder, and he then personally discharges her from the service entirely.

Based as fuck quest.

Supposedly you CAN win that fight, no idea what happens though.

Not much. The Amiri fight a little more, but nothing that really matters.

 

[Gyor]

This GOG review hits the nail on the head about this title :

I stopped playing halfway through the game. Don't get me wrong: Baldur's Gate is certainly a good game. However, it suffers from the same lacks in world building and setting as Divinity Original Sin 2. Instead of depicting certain races - Tieflings, Aasimar, Elves etc. - as rare, secluded and enigmatic, they are thrown at you in quick succession and shown as everyday occurrence. Right in the beginning of the game, for example, you meet an entire settlement of Tieflings - in the vicinity of Baldur's Gate - who are just another kind of staple Humans who happen to have Horns. This 'sloppy' kind of writing was already present in DOS 2. A whole lot of potential was going to waste for quick "show effects" - stong abilities, powerful races and monsters were thrown at you in the first act, obviously to catch the attention of the players. It would have been very easy to start more slowly. Maybe to have the protagonists happen upon a human fisher's village after crashing, which is under attack by goblins. And a secluded druids grove that doesn't want to help. And then, somewhere in the third or fourth act, you might have come across Tieflings. Going fast and flashy is not always the best.

They aren't a settlement of Tieflings, they are a band of Refugees. And if this person understood the setting they'd know Elves aren't rare in Faerun, they are one if the common races, they are a large minority, majority in some regions. Even Tieflings aren't rare anymore, more uncommon outside of certain regions, since a ritual changed them and now they are pure breeding.

This ISN'T middle earth and Larian isn't setting building, because the setting already exists, its been built, they are just telling a story there and highlighting elements.

 

[Gyor]

TFW no Muscle Barbarian GF

Ahh yes Amiri, I almost forgot about the IT'S MA'AM!! character too. There was actually more woke fuckery in Pathfinder than I really realized now that we are talking more about it. No truly normal classic feminine women. All variants of San Fran hipster shitlib tropes in some form or fashion. Which is especially odd since based Russians should be somewhat immune to hard left Western faggotry. *shrug*

The Twin Tieflings were awesome and fun.

 

[Gyor]

To post something on topic again, on how much crack were the people at Larian when they designed Shadowheart? From a gameplay perspective she is awfull.

The only character that should ever have negative dex in 5e is someone wearing heavy armor. As a cleric she could wear heavy armor, if she took any of the subclasses that give the prof. But instead the give her trickery, the single most dex reliant domain? Half her proficiencies are on dex skills despite her having -1 in that. With medium armor her AC is awfull, and half her cleric features are useless on her.

Also it doesn't help that the best cleric lvl 2 spell in spiritual weapon is missing. Literally all she is good for is a guiding bolt bot that throws a healing word once in a blue moon.

I'm guessing the response to this will be 'it doesn't matter because you can make your own custom companions'

Or 'she's still good because X and Y, so it doesn't matter'

I like having her cast Inflicit wounds, it works better then you'd think. I also gave her the spear that allows you to add a 1D4 to attack roll after you miss.

 

[Ol' Willy]

Which is especially odd since based Russians should be somewhat immune to hard left Western faggotry. *shrug*

Though, Owlcat didn't ditch Avellone and their press release stated that "we don’t uphold taking rushed actions based on allegations". So I guess it's just pandering to degenerate Western audience.

 

[Strange Fellow]

hey fellas, anyone else think this look more like divinity original sin that boulders gate or is it just me

 

[Desiderius]

And the woke political stuff lets me know I’m not the target audience too.

Watching elf Trump decide to go from refugees not welcome, to build a wall, to putting kids in cages, to murdering kids and wanting to murder the refugees in a span of a few lines of dialog upon meeting her was ludicrous.

They just can't help themselves anymore can they? It is all so very tireseome. I have to basically hand curate any piece of media I interact with now be it TV, movies, or games to see how much woke fuckery is embedded in it before I even attempt to consume it.

Yeah, that said, this is to be expected with almost every games studio except the few with the balls to love the bad press like the Kingdom Come guy’s.

As a reminder: remember that Pathfinder: Kingmaker has an elf that openly wants to cuck you from day one with a nigger (orc) and the two of them invite you for a threesome right off the bat.

You also can’t even get rid of them. They’re PERMANENT.

I’ve never received that offer.

Then again he is an CE orc. You could have lead him away from evil. Instead you chose to present your ass evidently.

C&C indeed.

 

[Thac0]

As there is a ton of misinformation in here about multiclassing, those are the 5e rules:
https://5thsrd.org/rules/multiclassing/

As for how Luriun will implement it: Who fucking knows?
That said if they fuck this up this is literally enough to break this game for me. As others have already realised single class progression in DnD is quite braindead. Multiclassing, especially in 5e, is make or break.

Also some TL: DR on the rules:
You need at least a 13 in the mainstat of both classes for the multiclass. So a rogue/wiz needs at least 13 in dex and int.
Then on every level up you are free to take a level in any eligible class your character has. This will grow your total character level, keeping xp demands the same and letting cantrips and proficiency and hp scale up, but gives you the specific class benefits of the class you multi into.
There are no limits, you can make a character who has 1 level in every single of the 12 classes if you want (and if you know what you are doing that won't even be that awfull).

 

[Shadenuat]

Borislav Slavov fan channel was updated with additional tracks: https://www.youtube.com/user/TheMusicMarks/videos

I take back what I said about Justin Bell, he actually wasn't too bad compared to BG3 ost.

bum bum something drums, instrumental, very sad Leliana from DAO, {REPEAT}

 

[Gregz]

Why are the Vatniks brigading this thread? They are getting mud everywhere...

Guys, your sub is in the back yard with the pigs and the chickens, please show yourselves out.

 

[Fedora Master]

So, I thought to myself "What's the most asshole-ish looking character you can come up with?"

 

[Thac0]

I'm guessing the response to this will be 'it doesn't matter because you can make your own custom companions'

Or 'she's still good because X and Y, so it doesn't matter'

Hey hey, these devs aren't Josh Sawyer. We can hopefully expect a little more class from them.

It is so strange because Gale is straight up minmaxed. +3 Int, +2 dex and con, what more do you want from a lvl 1 wizard? The space lady is fine aswell, 17 str is ok, +1 dex is fine, I think her con is good aswell. Just sad that her int is low, an Eldritch Knight Gith would be neat.

 

[BarbequeMasta]

So, I thought to myself "What's the most asshole-ish looking character you can come up with?"

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I assume you mean a literal asshole?

 

[Thonius]

You're the tadpole. Player is a tadpole.

Player could be any one of the companions in addition to being a custom character tho.

Hivemind or what ever ilithids have.

 

[Morgoth]

Not bad for an Orcesse.

 

[Desiderius]

Which is especially odd since based Russians should be somewhat immune to hard left Western faggotry. *shrug*

Though, Owlcat didn't ditch Avellone and their press release stated that "we don’t uphold taking rushed actions based on allegations". So I guess it's just pandering to degenerate Western audience.

It’s upfront to fool the journos (and faggots like Lambchop). Rest of the quests undermine the Poz, though they do like the ghey murridge.

 

[BarbequeMasta]

Yeah unless you're stubborn and use prebuffing both Stronk women get own bodied in 1v1 in their quests in Kingmaker.

 

[Ol' Willy]

It’s upfront to fool the journos (and faggots like Lambchop)

Exactly what I said (I thought I misused the word "pandering", but it does fit in). It's an easy trick- to score some good points with woke press (and we know that gaym-journos are all woke and mostly gay). The fact that journos rarely play the game past the two hour mark also helps.

 

[Shadenuat]

Not bad for an Orcesse.

I miss Gaider.

 

[Storyfag]

Oh and on that subject: just why are there so many of them anyway? Did some cambion decide to go and rape a whole town full of people or what? Aren’t teiflings supposed to be relatively uncommon in Faerun?

Well. Between 4e and 5e Shenanigans(tm) happened, making Tieflings much more common on Faerun than they used to. Plus, as per the new fluff, the fiendish (and angelic, and elemental) ancestry may surface at any generation, even if both parents were completely normal looking Humans, as long as one of them did have an extraplanar ancestor.

This GOG review hits the nail on the head about this title :

I stopped playing halfway through the game. Don't get me wrong: Baldur's Gate is certainly a good game. However, it suffers from the same lacks in world building and setting as Divinity Original Sin 2. Instead of depicting certain races - Tieflings, Aasimar, Elves etc. - as rare, secluded and enigmatic, they are thrown at you in quick succession and shown as everyday occurrence. Right in the beginning of the game, for example, you meet an entire settlement of Tieflings - in the vicinity of Baldur's Gate - who are just another kind of staple Humans who happen to have Horns. This 'sloppy' kind of writing was already present in DOS 2. A whole lot of potential was going to waste for quick "show effects" - stong abilities, powerful races and monsters were thrown at you in the first act, obviously to catch the attention of the players. It would have been very easy to start more slowly. Maybe to have the protagonists happen upon a human fisher's village after crashing, which is under attack by goblins. And a secluded druids grove that doesn't want to help. And then, somewhere in the third or fourth act, you might have come across Tieflings. Going fast and flashy is not always the best.

See above. Not *quite* Larian's fault, more like Wizards'.

 

[Mortmal]

This GOG review hits the nail on the head about this title :

I stopped playing halfway through the game. Don't get me wrong: Baldur's Gate is certainly a good game. However, it suffers from the same lacks in world building and setting as Divinity Original Sin 2. Instead of depicting certain races - Tieflings, Aasimar, Elves etc. - as rare, secluded and enigmatic, they are thrown at you in quick succession and shown as everyday occurrence. Right in the beginning of the game, for example, you meet an entire settlement of Tieflings - in the vicinity of Baldur's Gate - who are just another kind of staple Humans who happen to have Horns. This 'sloppy' kind of writing was already present in DOS 2. A whole lot of potential was going to waste for quick "show effects" - stong abilities, powerful races and monsters were thrown at you in the first act, obviously to catch the attention of the players. It would have been very easy to start more slowly. Maybe to have the protagonists happen upon a human fisher's village after crashing, which is under attack by goblins. And a secluded druids grove that doesn't want to help. And then, somewhere in the third or fourth act, you might have come across Tieflings. Going fast and flashy is not always the best.

The whole village of tiefling makes sense lore wise, since asmodeus rise to power everyone with a single drop of devil blood turned tiefling.Thats why they are refugee too and in a ghetto. Every time there's an edition change there's a cataclysm, time of trouble, spell plague and now the avernus events.GOg reviewer is yet another ignorant normie.

 

[Shrimp]

Not bad for an Orcesse.

What the hell, you can fuck your followers as early as act 1?
Have they simply no shame or are they going all-in on trying to appeal to cumbrains and waifufags?

 

[BarbequeMasta]

Not bad for an Orcesse.

What the hell, you can fuck your followers as early as act 1?
Have they simply no shame or are they going all-in on trying to appeal to cumbrains and waifufags?

Yes.