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Baldur's Gate Baldur's Gate 3 Early Access Thread [GAME RELEASED, GO TO NEW THREAD]

Saravan

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Maybe I'm overreacting but no opportunity cost for multiclassing actually kills the game for me. I could live with almost everything else that is also retarded, such as no stat requirements for multiclassing or not locking the attribute bonuses for races. But this shit is fundamentally broken.
its a single player game balance dont matter
just dont use it
fucking hell I hate some of the arguments in this thread. I was kinda looking forward for figuring out builds even when some of the mechanics are pretty retarded but this would ruin that for me. oh well maybe mods will fix it
Game balance absolutely matters as it affects all your choices and how the combat system responds to it. It's pretty much foundational for enjoyable combat. Balance does not mean every class combination is equally powerful.
 

Falksi

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Sooo, other than novellas tier romances and naked butts, what about the rest of the game? You know, the BALDUR'S GATE part.
Anything new on that front?
If you had bothered to read this thread then you would know that several videos have been posted that include real mechanics and exciting content

Here is video that has already been posted


First vid I've seen on it which has sold the game to me in some way.

Honesty, I want it to do well just to help keep turn-based relevant in the wake of TotK & FF16.
 

BruceVC

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A lot of the new threads on the game's sub are about romances. People want to romance the hirelings, they want orgies, they want threesomes, they want polyamory, they want to fuck this and that.

Larian knew what they were doing by focusing so many resources on romances, there's a big community that plays RPGs just due to romances, because that's the only way they can actually have sex in their lives.

It's not the normies that ruin games, it's the weirdos who can't have relationships or friendships in real life that fuck everything up with their degeneracy.
well, just look at codex. we have few bg3 romance threads too, including this one.
Who do you actually know that has ever said they play RPG just for Romance? I have heard that allegation before but I find it hard to believe considering Romance is an optional and small part of the overall components of any RPG

PeopLe like me enjoy Romance but its definitely not the main reason we play RPG
 
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its a single player game balance dont matter
just dont use it
fucking hell I hate some of the arguments in this thread. I was kinda looking forward for figuring out builds even when some of the mechanics are pretty retarded but this would ruin that for me. oh well maybe mods will fix it
"Just don't use it if you don't like it" is an argument that may work flawlessly for your collection of sex toys, but it's absolutely garbage when applied to game design and mechanics.
In the very moment you are setting new rules, you are intrinsically changing how the game plays. That remains true even if the reaction is "I'm not a fan of it". You are basically asking the player to "pretend the flawed rule isn't there" and to self-restraining from taking advantage of it.

This fundamentally alters the "rules of engagement" between the designer and the players. It's not "Here's a puzzle/challenge, do your best to solve it" anymore; it becomes "You could unravel this entire thing with a button press, but try to pretend you are struggling with it".
 

Jermu

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looks like no 72h early access thing for ea consoomers but who knows
 

Reinhardt

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Romances are non-issue because they can be ignored.
"just ignore it and it'll go away"
Having actual role playing in an RPG is now bad for codextards.

Nobody forces you to fuck bears.

Just like nobody was forcing you to fuck a sheep 20 years ago in Arcanum

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"b..bu bu it's different now!!!"

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swen, your game is shit. but at least you are using pirated windows, so there is still hope for you left.
 

Drakortha

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Having actual role playing in an RPG is now bad for codextards.

Nobody forces you to fuck bears.

Just like nobody was forcing you to fuck a sheep 20 years ago in Arcanum

"b..bu bu it's different now!!!"
Take shit out of context, much?

Did you know Sim Copter had FAGGOT Npc's?

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No, you probably didn't know that because it was an easter egg snuck in as a joke that most players wouldn't even know about. The devs probably put it in because it was offensive, if anything. Or it was just funny to do it. You cannot compare that to Larian who make faggotry a main feature in all their trailers and previews.

One of them is catering and pandering to the wrong crowd because it's trendy to market their game that way, and the other one isn't.
 
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Swen

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Having actual role playing in an RPG is now bad for codextards.

Nobody forces you to fuck bears.

Just like nobody was forcing you to fuck a sheep 20 years ago in Arcanum

"b..bu bu it's different now!!!"
Take shit out of context, much?

Did you know Sim Copter had FAGGOT Npc's?

easter-egg.jpg


No, you probably didn't know that because it was an easter egg snuck in as a dirty joke that most players wouldn't even know about. The devs probably put it in because it was an offensive sucker punch to fags. You cannot compare that to Larian who make faggotry a main feature in all their trailers and previews.

One of them is catering and pandering to the wrong crowd because it's trendy to market their game that way, and the other one isn't.
" it was an easter egg snuck in as a dirty joke that most players wouldn't even know about."

Guess what Einstein, if you're not a dirty phagboy you won't see the bear fcking either. Also the scene ends with a fcking squirrel dropping a nut, it was clearly a joke.

But since we're in current year everything is looked at through the "culture war" lens. According to extremist political tards on both sides of the isle, jokes can't exist anymore, everything has an agenda behind it. But sure it was also a marketing move since Larian knew the outrage would mean free marketing from left and rightwing tards.

Anyway great success, keep crying about it and continue being a free marketeer for Larian.
 

Ravielsk

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This fundamentally alters the "rules of engagement" between the designer and the players. It's not "Here's a puzzle/challenge, do your best to solve it" anymore; it becomes "You could unravel this entire thing with a button press, but try to pretend you are struggling with it".
On top of that you have to account for how optional the mechanic even really is. If the game is entirely balanced around the use of shitty or broken mechanics than the choice to not use said mechanic may just as well equal to not playing. Hitman absolution did this exact thing where it lets you turn off its retarded "you cannot see me" meter but then the vast majority of levels becomes borderline unplayable in stealth because those levels were designed around the player being able to go invisible from time to time.
 

whydoibother

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Take shit out of context, much?

Did you know Sim Copter had FAGGOT Npc's?

easter-egg.jpg


No, you probably didn't know that because it was an easter egg snuck in as a joke that most players wouldn't even know about. The devs probably put it in because it was offensive, if anything. Or it was just funny to do it. You cannot compare that to Larian who make faggotry a main feature in all their trailers and previews.

One of them is catering and pandering to the wrong crowd because it's trendy to market their game that way, and the other one isn't.
Just don't fuck bears, bro. Like, literally, just don't do that. Just don't romance the druid, and don't tell the druid to shapeshift and fuck your ass. Do not pick these options. Don't do the thing you don't want happening. Don't make it happen.

You get mad because black hair is an option in character creation, and you don't pick it?
 

BruceVC

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Romances are non-issue because they can be ignored.
"just ignore it and it'll go away"
No, thats not accurate. Just ignore it because you dont have to participate in it

It can be done, I promise you. You can choose what Romance arcs you want to initiate. It surprises me some people seem to think you MUST be part of every possible Romance option. I have never played any RPG like that
 

Drakortha

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Just don't fuck bears, bro. Like, literally, just don't do that. Just don't romance the druid, and don't tell the druid to shapeshift and fuck your ass. Do not pick these options. Don't do the thing you don't want happening. Don't make it happen.

You get mad because black hair is an option in character creation, and you don't pick it?
I don't have to worry about it because I'm not playing BG3. I already decided that before the game was in Early Access, because I already knew the game was going to suck like shit for Baldur's Gate fans the moment the game was unveiled as DOS3 in disguise. And nothing that Larian has done since has changed my mind. This faggot stuff is just Larian's most recent shit they made into the fountain.
 

BruceVC

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Just don't fuck bears, bro. Like, literally, just don't do that. Just don't romance the druid, and don't tell the druid to shapeshift and fuck your ass. Do not pick these options. Don't do the thing you don't want happening. Don't make it happen.

You get mad because black hair is an option in character creation, and you don't pick it?
I don't have to worry about it because I'm not playing BG3. I already decided that before the game was in Early Access, because I already knew the game was going to suck like shit for Baldur's Gate fans the moment the game was unveiled as DOS3 in disguise. And nothing that Larian has done since has changed my mind. This faggot stuff is just Larian's most recent shit they made into the fountain.
And if it gets recognized as the best RPG of the decade would you change your mind?
 

Ravielsk

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Romances are non-issue because they can be ignored. Any retard who cries about this shit outs themselves as degenerate that wants to participate in their chosen degenerate version of romance. The only exception is if someone criticises the concept of romance in RPG:s, this is based and encouraged.
My biggest problem with romances in western RPGs is that they are always just bolted on top of concept that fundamentally does not support them. One second you are playing mister serious commander on a mission to save the world, the next you are in a mans1ay3r game poop video. For some reason the devs always pick a premise that calls for break neck action but then insist on breaking it up with stupidly inappropriate masturbation breaks.

Breaks that are not even entertaining as baseline pornos because they are still trying to make a PG rated game. Or worse, they try to make it a porno and it grinds even harder against the rest of the game with how inappropriate it is. I hate to be that guy but somehow yet again the japanese figured this out ages ago and just splintered the industry into NSFW and SFW sections. I have no idea why its just not possible for a western studio to just make a 100% fetish game and sell it as such instead of sulling pre-existing franchises like Baldurs Gate with their BS. Especially now that steam just straight up sells porno games.
 

Reinhardt

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> Wizards can learn divine spells from scrolls, including healing ones

What the fuck
they are transitioning. that's what you get for not beating your kids with stick first time they wear dress.
 

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