Baldur's Gate Baldur's Gate 3 Early Access Thread [GAME RELEASED, GO TO NEW THREAD]

[Rhobar121]

Karmic dice supposedly work both ways so both you and your enemies will hit more often.

 

[Non-Edgy Gamer]

It was 2004. That's like 20 years ago, and it's got better AI than any game out today and it's certainly better than the non-existent AI in BG3. You can't cope hard enough.

How many RPGs have implemented The Sims AI in their games?

Exactly NONE! Now you're getting it, faggot.

I think we should all stop and thank Dorkortha here for finally bringing a new argument to the thread:

BG3 sucks because it isn't The Sims.

 

[Drakortha]

BG3 sucks because it's BG3.

Thank Larian, not me.

 

[jaekl]

I thought having npcs with their own personalities, lives and schedules was considered cool in rpgs?? Though I don't remember the sims being very smart, mine mostly spent their days walking back and forth yelling, peeing and falling asleep until they died because they couldn't escape the shin-high fence that I built around them.

 

[Drakortha]

I thought having npcs with their own personalities, lives and schedules was considered cool in rpgs??

No, you see, Larian figured out a solution for all the problems with AI, like the problem of having the studio crunch to deliver a much more in-depth game world. Because Crunch is bad, and we wouldn't want game Journo's to catch a whiff of it.

So what Larian did was not have any AI at all. Swen is a genius.

 

[Non-Edgy Gamer]

I thought having npcs with their own personalities, lives and schedules was considered cool in rpgs??

Yes, if there's a purpose for it in gameplay. Otherwise it's just lazy scripting that inevitably causes more trouble than it's worth. See Oblivion's dumb as rocks "AI", for example.

Development resources are finite. I would much rather devs spend time on actual RPG elements than script in similationist crap if that's not the focus, let alone come up with a whole unnecessary The Sims-like AI for NPCs.

To suggest with a straight face that the problem with BG3 is that it doesn't have an AI like The Sims or Oblivion is beyond reddit-tier brain rot.

 

[Drakortha]

Development resources are finite.

Yeah it is. And look what they spent their precious resources on.

Cutscene dialogue.

They could have kept it isometric perspective during conversations. But that doesn't pull in the biodrones, does it ?

Due to limited resources, if you were given the choice of AI/schedules/day/night cycles, or Cutscene dialogue. Would you seriously choose the later?

 

[jaekl]

I think I'd prefer torturing the kooky sim villagers to watching 400 hours of cringe dramatic dialogues if I had to choose

 

[Silverfish]

Holy shit. 70 dollar price tag for a new game is mostly new and you think everyone is lucky? Fucking hell.

In fairness, it's only $70 if you have no patience. When I play BG3, a couple of years from now, it will be substantially less.

BG3 sucks because it isn't The Sims.

Weirdly, yes, because it means we'll likely never get Marty Plays Baldur's Gate 3.

 

[Zeriel]

Sorry, not gonna discuss this further. I find people who give everything the most uncharitable reading and are paranoid about political messaging incredibly irritating and I don't care whether it's coming from the Sarkeesians and Kotakus of this world, who interpret everything as racist, sexist and homophobic, or from some screeching right-wing Trumptards who suspect a wokester under every bed. You all suck and fuck your political tribalism. You can interpret fucking everything as an allegory in an unfavourable way if you've got an agenda to push.

The writing in BG1 is fucking ass, they couldn't even keep their tone consistent between whacky anachronistic nonsense that sounds like it was ripped from some shitty Steve Urkel sitcom and people rambling in Ye Olde English. If you want to let your political crystal ball decide whether writing is good or bad based on the asumed political motivations of the writers then be my guest, but at least be aware that this isn't really the quality of the writing at issue here, just your own politial hang-ups.

Yeah, no. Fuck off. We wanted to ignore politics. It's faggots like you who supported shoving them into every orifice possible. Yes, now that they are constantly shoving the dick of politics down our throat with every game release we're forced to pay attention to it. This isn't a reflection on us. It's a reflection on the people doing it, and those who support them. (That would be you.)

You're not mad that politics is everywhere. You're mad that not everyone agrees with them.

 

[Nerevar]

I don't remember sucking this bad last time I played.

Just hanging around

How many more days until BG3?

 

[scytheavatar]

Holy shit. 70 dollar price tag for a new game is mostly new and you think everyone is lucky? Fucking hell.

$70 for what that is probably going to be 1000+ hours of entertainment is a bargain and I am not sure why you are complaining. Peasants like you who don't understand economics and expect devs to make games for cheap should just ask stop buying video games cause the gaming industry will be better off without you. This is a game made with 400+ devs and is absolutely AAA quality, why shouldn't it demand a AAA price tag?

 

[Zeriel]

Holy shit. 70 dollar price tag for a new game is mostly new and you think everyone is lucky? Fucking hell.

$70 for what that is probably going to be 1000+ hours of entertainment is a bargain and I am not sure why you are complaining. Peasants like you who don't understand economics and expect devs to make games for cheap should just ask stop buying video games cause the gaming industry will be better off without you. This is a game made with 400+ devs and is absolutely AAA quality, why shouldn't it demand a AAA price tag?

AAA in what department? Bearfucking? Larian going AAA has only made their games worse for me. The more money they get, the less I recognize of what once was great about them.

 

[Late Bloomer]

Holy shit. 70 dollar price tag for a new game is mostly new and you think everyone is lucky? Fucking hell.

$70 for what that is probably going to be 1000+ hours of entertainment is a bargain and I am not sure why you are complaining. Peasants like you who don't understand economics and expect devs to make games for cheap should just ask stop buying video games cause the gaming industry will be better off without you. This is a game made with 400+ devs and is absolutely AAA quality, why shouldn't it demand a AAA price tag?

You are a zoophilac. It's always these people, like you, waking up dead accounts to defend this shit. You keep paying, fucking sicko. This game is going to be a bug ridden mess. No day / night, no npc schedules, zoomer dialogue, and there you are, slopping it up and liking it. You defend higher prices so you can live out your fantasies. 1000 hours? Fucking hell dude.

 

[Mebrilia the Viera Queen]

Holy moley people calm down. Just go take a cold beer, tea or whatever this is spiraling out of control. Is fine if you don't like the game just stop whining about it :D

 

[blessed king of longing]

Spoiler

i'm fuckin in love with her man

 

[Zeriel]

Seek help.

 

[Late Bloomer]

Spoiler

i'm fuckin in love with her man

I knew this was the type of people excited for this game. They are psychotic. This is the target audience for BG3.

 

[Mebrilia the Viera Queen]

Spoiler

i'm fuckin in love with her man

I knew this was the type of people excited for this game. They are psychotic. This is the target audience for BG3.

Am i psychotic?

 

[Non-Edgy Gamer]

AAA in what department? Bearfucking? Larian going AAA has only made their games worse for me. The more money they get, the less I recognize of what once was great about them.

Most Larian games were junk to me. The combat in DOS was too repetitive and the story too nonsensical.

I think the only Larian game I ever liked was Divine Divinity in 2002.

Yes, the bear thing is degenerate and dumb, just like sheepfucking in Arcanum was. But I'm not going to say the game sucks for that alone.

The Avengers-tier writing that's the reason for the bear sex otoh...

 

[Non-Edgy Gamer]

Spoiler

i'm fuckin in love with her man

Never try to turn a ho brainwashed Selunite cleric into a housewife.

 

[Zeriel]

AAA in what department? Bearfucking? Larian going AAA has only made their games worse for me. The more money they get, the less I recognize of what once was great about them.

Most Larian games were junk to me. The combat in DOS was too repetitive and the story too nonsensical.

I think the only Larian game I ever liked was Divine Divinity in 2002.

Yes, the bear thing is degenerate and dumb, just like sheepfucking in Arcanum was. But I'm not going to say the game sucks for that alone.

The Avengers-tier writing that's the reason for the bear sex otoh...

I mean, I think there is a big difference between having a text line and a fade to black about fucking a sheep for lols and painstakingly animating a 3D cutscene. Same for the other sex cutscenes, honestly. I've always found thorough romantic cutscenes in games cringe as fuck. At least Bioware would mostly fade to black in the early days. It's a funny thing because now we have amateur 3D porn that often has way better animations/"titilation" than the professional stuff, and the professional people live in this weird no-man's-land where they are afraid to go all the way and have too much of a hangup about professionally having their name tied to the work to actually make a good product by porn standards, but still feel some bizarre need to put the cutscene in the game. I wish they just wouldn't bother, leave that stuff to the rule34 people, they are better at it anyway.

 

[Non-Edgy Gamer]

I mean, I think there is a big difference between having a text line and a fade to black about fucking a sheep for lols and painstakingly animating a 3D cutscene.

The only difference is budget and the expectation someone buying a AAA game has for it.

It's still a joke (except for the furfags), it's just one is a more expensive joke.

As for the sex cutscenes, well, this is an old ass argument. There was a time when films used to do fade to black. Now, it's a makeout scene, followed by a striptease, followed by simulated sex and sometimes even full-frontal nudity. Been that way for decades.

Sex sells, as they say. Blame the government for taking prayer out of schools.

 

[luj1]

Spoiler

i'm fuckin in love with her man

I knew this was the type of people excited for this game. They are psychotic. This is the target audience for BG3.

this is really why they put degeneracy in games/movies

to make people ill and insane, stop people from procreating and starting healthy families

 

[Zeriel]

I mean, I think there is a big difference between having a text line and a fade to black about fucking a sheep for lols and painstakingly animating a 3D cutscene.

The only difference is budget and the expectation someone buying a AAA game has for it.

It's still a joke (except for the furfags), it's just one is a more expensive joke.

As for the sex cutscenes, well, welcome to this is an old ass argument. There was a time when films used to do fade to black. Now, it's a makeout scene, followed by a striptease, followed by simulated sex and sometimes even full-frontal nudity.

Sex sells, as they say. Blame the government for taking prayer out of schools.

I think sex appeal sells more than showing an awkward sex scene. Titilation does not necessarily equal a robotic simulation of the act.