I am mostly concerned about character options and leveling, I haven't played 5e in ages but I remember it as really limited, did they change anything, did 5e got some options in recent years? Also, items were bland and boring, any changes there?
Classes have subclasses just at level one in this is way more dynamic than the past editions. Example paladins have different oaths doing different things. Level up is not very different from the third edition but each tot level you can decide if you want more points on your stats and you want an extra feat.
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I wonder if that still applies if you go for an evil PC (+/- chaotic if the urge forces you into doing stupid evil stuff). At that point it'd be just extra narrative content for your PC just as with any other origin, no?The mechanic of Dark Urge’s origin will force you to do bad things if you try to be goody-two-shoes multiple times in a row- it forces an intimidation check and if you fail it, bad things happen without your say in it.Another comparison between this and original trilogy:
There was all this gravitas in the original trilogy about being the literal spawn of the god of murder, but no real hard choices or limitations - you could easily be goody two shoes paladin or righteous cleric of helm. Aside from that one time you automatically turned into the slayer you were never limited by your very dark origin.
Isn't Dark Urge the way the original CHARNAME should have been? A natural-born murderhobo who could struggle to be good against all odds?
ITT, people playing the EA since the beginning have found clear indication that Tav should be by default the Dark Urge, but that was eventually cut. Several scenes and narrator lines which were progressively edited during EA had the tav having the "blood, blood, blood" moments. I guess they really had this in for a connection with the original game very early.
It’s probably would be quite unappealing and annoying for anyone who didn’t willingly decided to pick it, so making it into a separate thing was smart.
Mh according with the explanation it dosnt you still get the compabion quest however when you play an origin character such quests get richer with the companion you chose to play point of view.I wonder if that still applies if you go for an evil PC (+/- chaotic if the urge forces you into doing stupid evil stuff). At that point it'd be just extra narrative content for your PC just as with any other origin, no?The mechanic of Dark Urge’s origin will force you to do bad things if you try to be goody-two-shoes multiple times in a row- it forces an intimidation check and if you fail it, bad things happen without your say in it.Another comparison between this and original trilogy:
There was all this gravitas in the original trilogy about being the literal spawn of the god of murder, but no real hard choices or limitations - you could easily be goody two shoes paladin or righteous cleric of helm. Aside from that one time you automatically turned into the slayer you were never limited by your very dark origin.
Isn't Dark Urge the way the original CHARNAME should have been? A natural-born murderhobo who could struggle to be good against all odds?
ITT, people playing the EA since the beginning have found clear indication that Tav should be by default the Dark Urge, but that was eventually cut. Several scenes and narrator lines which were progressively edited during EA had the tav having the "blood, blood, blood" moments. I guess they really had this in for a connection with the original game very early.
It’s probably would be quite unappealing and annoying for anyone who didn’t willingly decided to pick it, so making it into a separate thing was smart.
And speaking of origins and Swen's recc of not 'spoiling' them by assigning them to your PC on a first playthrough, how do companions with preset origins work if you pick their respective origins for your PC instead? Does it just remove the origin content for the companion and gives it to the PC (presumably downgrading the companion in the process by removing their personal side quests or what have you)?
Ed Greenwood is a legit free love hippie. Even his wife affectionately referred to him as a pervert. There are many canon examples of orgies in the Realms, especially Silverymoon and Alustriel herself who was almost constantly pregnant. Ed loved the old 70s version of powerful sexually liberated ladies you might find on the cover of Heavy Metal Magazine, or just straight up free love flower children.
Nice to see another person with knowledge.
What the fuck does that even mean?
And they're succeeding! I'm very glad about that. Are you glad about that?
Still not sure if I understand correctly how this works. Taking the example of Shadowheart, if I pick her origin for the PC, does that mean that I no longer get to recruit her as a companion at all or do I get to recruit her but with her origin-based content (which presumably would represent her personal quest had I not selected her origin for my PC) being removed since I'll get to experience it from the perspective of the PC instead?
Ok let me debunk this:
There are common evil acts (like kicking the rodent), but a lot of evil options will be unique to dark urge (like ripping Gale’s arm off) + it will probably have unique questline.I wonder if that still applies if you go for an evil PC (+/- chaotic if the urge forces you into doing stupid evil stuff). At that point it'd be just extra narrative content for your PC just as with any other origin, no?The mechanic of Dark Urge’s origin will force you to do bad things if you try to be goody-two-shoes multiple times in a row- it forces an intimidation check and if you fail it, bad things happen without your say in it.Another comparison between this and original trilogy:
There was all this gravitas in the original trilogy about being the literal spawn of the god of murder, but no real hard choices or limitations - you could easily be goody two shoes paladin or righteous cleric of helm. Aside from that one time you automatically turned into the slayer you were never limited by your very dark origin.
Isn't Dark Urge the way the original CHARNAME should have been? A natural-born murderhobo who could struggle to be good against all odds?
ITT, people playing the EA since the beginning have found clear indication that Tav should be by default the Dark Urge, but that was eventually cut. Several scenes and narrator lines which were progressively edited during EA had the tav having the "blood, blood, blood" moments. I guess they really had this in for a connection with the original game very early.
It’s probably would be quite unappealing and annoying for anyone who didn’t willingly decided to pick it, so making it into a separate thing was smart.
And speaking of origins and Swen's recc of not 'spoiling' them by assigning them to your PC on a first playthrough, how do companions with preset origins work if you pick their respective origins for your PC instead? Does it just remove the origin content for the companion and gives it to the PC (presumably downgrading the companion in the process by removing their personal side quests or what have you)?
If you pick Shadowheart, you PLAY Shadowheart. There is no Shadowheart companion to recruit because YOU are Shadowheart.
You still get to do her quest but thos time is more personal.
To expand on this a bit, I believe it has been mentioned that succeeding a skill or attribute check isn't always desirable. Failure can have interesting, even 'good,' consequences depending on your (or your character's) perspective.
Holy SHIT you people have short memories. You've completely forgotten the pre-Cyberpunk CDPR optics and marketing.
Well the release is close i guess we shall see
Not to mention that if a certain origin would suit your PC, then the companion who already has that origin would probably suit your party too. So by picking it for the PC instead, you end up having one less suitable companion to pick for your party as well.
All tho in bg3 this is mitigated by the fact you have hirelings so you can fill that gap.
Wyll was rewritten from scratch while his appearance may be the same. I believe that we will see another will.All these features and still I can't edit the black warlock to be a white male.
Anyway, mods will fix it.
