Baldur's Gate Baldur's Gate 3 Pre-Release Thread [EARLY ACCESS RELEASED, GO TO NEW THREAD]

[Shadenuat]

and if you finished both games "well you finished them so you liked them so they're good"?

so what % of the game one must finish to judge it?

 

[NJClaw]

So what does everyone think of the 4 person party. I think it's great that we're not going to be bogged down with too much. Wouldn't want the game to be too Chaotic. Or differ too much from DOS2.

I'm glad it doesn't have cuck relationships like PFK where the orc asks you watch him fuck his elf girlfriend

Think again. Githyanki all like to cuck each other. And one of them is a romance option in this game.

Are you actually comparing a supposed romance where the member of an alien race doesn't expect an exclusive relationship from the MC because her society doesn't do exclusive relationships to a romance, currently existing in Kingmaker, where you go through a love triangle for more than half the game?

If you have the guts to say that the gith romance that is going to end western civilization is the same as the MC-octavia-regongar romance, you are hopless.

 

[Daidre]

So you basically played one chapter of the first game, and none of the second. And are trying to judge them based on whatever.

Because it is not D:OS I judge but BG 3 and what I have seen about it already. Right now my judgement is : "Maybe one day, when EE is out".
I played D:OS for 70 hours in 2 incomplete runs, I think it enough time to figure out that I am not going to fangirl over this game.

What surprises me the most is that Lacrymas by his own admission never liked any D:OS enough to complete them at least once (!). But no one argues over his right to be excited over D:OS BG 3. I do not know whether it is optimism, ignorance or something else.

 

[rusty_shackleford]

, where you go through a love triangle for more than half the game?

It's totally the same ok

 

[Lacrymas]

What surprises me the most is that Lacrymas by his own admission never liked any D:OS enough to complete them at least once (!). But no one argues over his right to be excited over D:OS BG 3. I do not know whether it is optimism, ignorance or something else.

You keep operating on the idea that this is just like D:OS2 and nothing has changed, we are just excited about it being named BG3. But this is not true as has been pointed out already. I'm not into D:OS1 and 2 because of the random items killing exploration, the armor system and initiative in D:OS2, getting repetitive and rote after Cyseal, the over-reliance on environmental interactions, etc. None of this will be in BG3, they replaced the combat system with one which is at least functional (it's D&D even if 5E isn't as good as 3.5), there are no random items, physical feats are added, skill checks are common, etc. This is not baseless optimism, we have seen how the game's bones function and I'm satisfied for now, what they need to do is concentrate on encounter design and exploration, and I'm gonna like it. I am at heart a combatfag and there is little that can disturb me if the combat is good.

 

[DraQ]

Types of Pro-DOS commenters

Pro-DOS strongmen.
Modus operandi: brutal domination.
Rhetoric: yes, this is DOS3, pledge your allegiance to your new overlords, BG plebs.

Pro-DOS diplomats.
MO: pacification
Rhetoric: the form is not final, wait for something to change, wait for EA/release/patch/EE/sequel.

Pro-DOS infantry.
MO: making it all about TB vs RTWP
Rhetoric: TB is good, RTWP is bad, who cares about story and tone.

Pro-DOS clerics.
MO: religious indoctrination
Rhetoric: come brothers and sisters, enjoy these rabbits, squirrels and rainbows we're offering. Lighthearted approach is almost upon us.

Pro-DOS merchants.
MO: property rights
Rhetoric: WotC says this is BG3, that's why this is BG3

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It must suck to be an anti-DOS gibberling then.
Especially if you don't have the numbers.

 

[Volrath]

PoE RTwP is OK. I'd rather play that than TB D:OS. TB gameplay puts me in the halt after some time.

PoE or D:OS is a difficult decision to make for me right now, but the fact is that I've played PoE about 300 hours and D:OS no more than 50.

Kingmaker beats PoE any day of course.

How the fuck didn't you kill yourself?

 

[Daidre]

This is not baseless optimism, we have seen how the game's bones function and I'm satisfied for now, what they need to do is concentrate on encounter design and exploration, and I'm gonna like it. I am at heart a combatfag and there is little that can disturb me if the combat is good.

Well, when I try to run my risk-assessment algorithm over this claim I see mostly 2 issues:
1) D&D's 5ed is simplified and streamlined version of my favorite 3.5. There are could be not enough D&D left when Swen is done with his own round of simplifying.
2) Larian seem to be very focused on the whole cinematic thing with animations and long full voiced close-up dialogues. So they may decide that there is a need for lot of them. In each dungeon, before and after each major decision, to show off all fancy reactivity they wrote for each pre-made char.
(This soured me toward Deadfire - I loved system and itemization, but there were just not enough good old dungeon-adventuring to have between all inane writing in horrifying quantities).

I could be wrong, of course.

 

[Volrath]

Virgin 3.5E vs Chad 2E.

 

[MicoSelva]

MicoSelva obviously...

Not really. I may have played BG1 a couple dozen times, but most of these were a long time ago. BG2 is more like 3-4 playthroughs, maybe 5?

 

[Hamster]

Noone from Larian said anything about placeholders afaik, that was the gamers.

Baldur's Gate III by Larian Studios - it's turn-based and isometric, folks

Russian branch? Woah now I am even more confident

Who do you think came up with amazing armour system of DivOS2?

 

[AwesomeButton]

PoE RTwP is OK. I'd rather play that than TB D:OS. TB gameplay puts me in the halt after some time.

PoE or D:OS is a difficult decision to make for me right now, but the fact is that I've played PoE about 300 hours and D:OS no more than 50.

Kingmaker beats PoE any day of course.

How the fuck didn't you kill yourself?

I wanted to be really sure it's as shit as it felt during the first backer beta, in spite of what many were claiming.

In the IE games, the nice RTwP flow was the result of the personal initiative round, which didn't differ that much and that often between characters, as recovery times differed between characters in PoE/Deadfire, due to Sawyer needing to fine grain things very much in order to give some meaning to his rich array of abilities. The other factor, counterintuitively, is the lack of all the active abilities which PoE/Deadfire have. Combat flow in the IE games was more even and was less interrupted by pausing compared to that in the PoE/Deadfire, which resulted in the overall feeling of... fun combat. The average real time length of a combat encounter in Deadfire is significantly greater than the average trash combat in the IE games, because in the IE games you do less pausing. At least that's my experience and conclusion.

 

[NJClaw]

Virgin 3.5E vs Chad 2E.

Virgin D&D player vs actual 700 AD warrior

 

[Elex]

Virgin 3.5E vs Chad 2E.

This is the typical 5 e player:

 

[Ismaul]

and if you finished both games "well you finished them so you liked them so they're good"?

so what % of the game one must finish to judge it?

700%. Everyone knows this.

 

[Infinitron]

Who do you think came up with amazing armour system of DivOS2?

View attachment 12526

Wrong Russian: https://www.mobygames.com/developer/sheet/view/developerId,733136/

 

[Jedi Exile]

It could be anyone, really. Most likely Swen himself.

 

[Hamster]

Who do you think came up with amazing armour system of DivOS2?

View attachment 12526

Wrong Russian: https://www.mobygames.com/developer/sheet/view/developerId,733136/

Disclaimer: i actually have no idea who was responsible for armour system, that post was for trolling purposes only.

 

[Ontopoly]

So what does everyone think of the 4 person party. I think it's great that we're not going to be bogged down with too much. Wouldn't want the game to be too Chaotic. Or differ too much from DOS2.

I'm glad it doesn't have cuck relationships like PFK where the orc asks you watch him fuck his elf girlfriend

Think again. Githyanki all like to cuck each other. And one of them is a romance option in this game.

Are you actually comparing a supposed romance where the member of an alien race doesn't expect an exclusive relationship from the MC because her society doesn't do exclusive relationships to a romance, currently existing in Kingmaker, where you go through a love triangle for more than half the game?

If you have the guts to say that the gith romance that is going to end western civilization is the same as the MC-octavia-regongar romance, you are hopless.

Cucked is cucked. At least Octavia is somewhat attractive so you're getting something out of the cuck. I would not let a Gith cuck me

 

[Ontopoly]

Types of Pro-DOS commenters

Pro-DOS strongmen.
Modus operandi: brutal domination.
Rhetoric: yes, this is DOS3, pledge your allegiance to your new overlords, BG plebs.

Pro-DOS diplomats.
MO: pacification
Rhetoric: the form is not final, wait for something to change, wait for EA/release/patch/EE/sequel.

Pro-DOS infantry.
MO: making it all about TB vs RTWP
Rhetoric: TB is good, RTWP is bad, who cares about story and tone.

Pro-DOS clerics.
MO: religious indoctrination
Rhetoric: come brothers and sisters, enjoy these rabbits, squirrels and rainbows we're offering. Lighthearted approach is almost upon us.

Pro-DOS merchants.
MO: property rights
Rhetoric: WotC says this is BG3, that's why this is BG3

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Now do one for anti-DOS.

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[Saravan]

So what does everyone think of the 4 person party. I think it's great that we're not going to be bogged down with too much. Wouldn't want the game to be too Chaotic. Or differ too much from DOS2.

I'm glad it doesn't have cuck relationships like PFK where the orc asks you watch him fuck his elf girlfriend

Think again. Githyanki all like to cuck each other. And one of them is a romance option in this game.

Are you actually comparing a supposed romance where the member of an alien race doesn't expect an exclusive relationship from the MC because her society doesn't do exclusive relationships to a romance, currently existing in Kingmaker, where you go through a love triangle for more than half the game?

If you have the guts to say that the gith romance that is going to end western civilization is the same as the MC-octavia-regongar romance, you are hopless.

Cucked is cucked. At least Octavia is somewhat attractive so you're getting something out of the cuck. I would not let a Gith cuck me

Holy shit it's a fucking video game character, do you also sleep with a hentai pillow?

 

[Mazisky]

No day\night cycle confirmed by the devs, because "it will conflict with multiplayer".

They wanna create a believable world, the best Crpg ever, 300 people and they cannot even afford a day night cycle which almost the totality of the classic rpgs of the last 20 years had.

I really hope this game fails along with Larian.

 

[The_Mask]

I also find it fascinating how people think that BG 3 being a smash hit is a guaranty.

Place your bets. Is smart money on its financial success or failure? (limited to this bet)

In all seriousness (due to the fact that you can be huge troll, I'm not sure how serious you are), I think this question has always been there, because D:OS 2 had been a kickstarter project and they never made enough money to be AAA, but here is now Swen talking in AAA terms - and so... where is he getting all the money from?

The answer seems to be that he is going for the Early Access gamble.

I'm willing to bet that Swen, as always, is going to be true to his word: he is going to make money enough to make a better RPG. Which probably means a bit above the line.



That's my bet.

 

[FranticDistortion]

No day\night cycle confirmed by the devs, because "it will conflict with multiplayer".

I really hope this game fails along with Larian.

Also it will fuck up shadow mechanics making stealth broken as fuck.

 

[Ulysa]

No day\night cycle confirmed by the devs, because "it will conflict with multiplayer".

They wanna create a believable world, the best Crpg ever, 300 people and they cannot even afford a day night cycle which almost the totality of the classic rpgs of the last 20 years had.

I really hope this game fails along with Larian.

Are you fucking kidding me? Ok fuck this shit, fuck it really hard. They can't even add this stupid tiny thing. But hey, throwing boots!!!