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Lacrymas

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I fully expect it to copy BG1's structure closely. And that's not a bad thing. I just don't know why Belgian developers use miles, nobody outside of Kwanzania understands what that means without looking it up.
 

Fairfax

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The 5e classes are too much at different power at level 10 and more equal at 13-15 when they finish their archetypes.
I also enjoy 5E's Tier 3 gameplay, but that's not true. The features that weaker archetypes unlock at 13-15 aren't even that good/good enough to close the gap, while the strongest ones get most of the best stuff. The gap only gets wider.
 
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NJClaw

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I fully expect it to copy BG1's structure closely. And that's not a bad thing. I just don't know why Belgian developers use miles, nobody outside of Kwanzania understands what that means without looking it up.
They're using the official measurement system of the people who walked on the moon.
The joke is that computer systems used during the moon landing actually used the metric system, right?
 

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So custom chars are not nerfed to the ground content wise? Always disliked that whole origins thing locked to premades.
It's just a misleading pr wordy answer. He's saying that custom PC's will still make choices and the game will keep track of those choices and give reactivety to the choices you made and you can experience the stories if they're your companion then quickly skirted over how your PC will have less story and reactivity compared to Origins.
 

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I also enjoy 5E's Tier 3 gameplay, but that's not true. The features that weaker archetypes unlock at 13-15 aren't even that good/good enough to close the gap, while the strongest ones get most of the best stuff. The gap only gets wider.

In your point of view, how does the gap widen?
 

jackofshadows

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So custom chars are not nerfed to the ground content wise? Always disliked that whole origins thing locked to premades.
Have you read the actual answers? Because I'm not convinced at all. By the way, they are also told that it would be impossible to create custom vampire char while origin one have unique sucking ability among other things.
 

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Full custom party? Turn-based? I guess I need to buy this if only to vote with my wallet.

The level cap is nice too. From what I recall, 5e tries to give you something every level. I also think a lower cap discourages builds that are really powerful at max level but less fun to get there.
 

Efe

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hmm.. if they allow you to be vampire would they also allow you to be a gith and sleep around with everyone?
 

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and he defended the super-hero jumps by claiming they were spiced up that way to enable "seeing them"

and his statement is a measure of how good is he at bullshitting.

and level cap is at 10 because there will be DLCs to buy afterwards. it's not a decision driven by wise design choice, you slurping Larian faggots.

Not a DLC, a sequel, BG4, most likely another +100 to +150 hours of content plus new subclasses, races, companions, and maybe the Artificer and Psion classes.
 

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Uninspiring.... 10 level max? Ugh this is a CRPG guys, 15th is a minimum here, unless they want to milk it hard. Oh wait they will 10th level BG3 15th level DLC 20 lvl DLC2+3.

Larian doesn't do things that way, more likely the game is so big they split it in two, BG3 which is 100+ hours and BG4 which will be 100+ to 150+ hours with more character creation options. I'll point out BG1 where you only went to level 7, you advanced further via expansions and sequels. BG3 levels 1-10, BG4 Levels 11-20, BG5 Epic content. Pretty simple no need for cynasism.
 

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Also, it requires you to limit or avoid random spawns / encounters (which is a good thing).

It really doesn't lol.

You can always do progression by quest like PoE. I think PnP also has set progression where killing monster deosn't give exp and only milestones (basically quest) do.
Yes it’s needed for discourage murderhobo.

Milestones would be every interesting way of leveling, it would allow alot more flexiblity in game play, if you want to use skills to avoid combat you can, if you want as much combat as possible, you can all without messing up progression.
 

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I don't doubt they'll do a BG4 in order to make their own "Bhaalspawn saga", but high level gameplay is ultimately boring and depends on mostly gimmicks to keep the challenge up.
 

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4 lvl 20 5e character are the equivalent of lvl 30-40 of older editions.

just... no!!! :retarded:
at lvl 13-20 in 5e you can kill legendary liches (like acererak) archdevils (like zariel), demons princes(like orcus) and gods (like tiamat). If that aren't epic levels enemies then wtf a character is supposed to kill for be the equivalent of an epic tier?
 

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4 lvl 20 5e character are the equivalent of lvl 30-40 of older editions.

just... no!!! :retarded:
at lvl 13-20 in 5e you can kill legendary liches (like acererak) archdevils (like zariel), demons princes(like orcus) and gods (like tiamat). If that aren't epic levels enemies then wtf a character is supposed to kill for be the equivalent of an epic tier?
Tiamat and her two lich buddies and their armies of undead. Tiamat also made an alliance with some archdevils for whatever reason who brought along some of their friends. Or you could fight some other characters who are level 18-20.
 

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so there will be actual trampling over old graves, good to know, since I became too positive after other replies like weapons and low level campaign.
 

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There are feats, there is multiclassing and all of the classes are going to be included. How are people reaching the opposite conclusions?
People were also reaching conclusion that being attacked while camping at night would end with combat happening somewhere unrelated during the day despite there being a camp map which is night time.

People are weird this way.
 

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