Baldur's Gate Baldur's Gate 3 Pre-Release Thread [EARLY ACCESS RELEASED, GO TO NEW THREAD]

[Quillon]

It is difficult to comprehend greatness of TB when it is promoted in Larian's thread - studio that achieved success by creating THE most casualtarded RPG-TB imaginable for a wide masses.

TB is a very deep strategic and bla bla system but only in the veeeery prestigious games that no one plays. TB in mainstream sucks just like anything else. "turn-based lovers" even ashamed to admit they like DOS'/nu-X-com's gameplay while they are jumping with joy waiting for Larian's AAA TB BG3.

 

[CappenVarra]

baldur's gate 3 or coronavirus (two 500+ page threads), which is better and why?

 

[underground nymph]

Rtwpfags still butthurt?

Pfkmfags mostly

 

[RangerOne]

Rtwpfags

But rtwp is not meat. It's cheap and lazy substitute for both tb and pure rt. Basically - vegan meat.

I was watching a Final Fantasy 7 Remake demo playthrough on Youtube today. The game has real time combat, but you can pause to issue tactical commands, cast spells and such. It would be "a piece of RTwP shit for faggots", if your argumentation were strictly applied.

Question: Could a hypothetical Final Fantasy 7 Remake with pure real time combat, and consequently no option to issue tactical commands, be a good game? Or do the above rules only apply to top-down CRPGs and not, for example, to third-person JRPGs?

Just wondering.

 

[Reinhardt]

It would be "a piece of RTwP shit for faggots", if your argumentation were strictly applied.

But IT IS rtwp shit for faggots!

 

[RangerOne]

But rtwp is not meat. It's cheap and lazy substitute for both tb and pure rt. Basically - vegan meat.

It would be "a piece of RTwP shit for faggots", if your argumentation were strictly applied.

But IT IS rtwp shit for faggots!

Right.

So you're saying that Final Fantasy 7 Remake would be a a substantially better game (for an action JRPG nonetheless) if it had a "pure real time" combat system instead of the current RTwP combat system? The latter of which allows the player to pause the game so he can issue tactical commands?

Just wondering.

 

[Fenix]

Hey, fresh content from russian 2.ch rpg thread, guess who is who on the pic.

 

[RangerOne]

But rtwp is not meat. It's cheap and lazy substitute for both tb and pure rt. Basically - vegan meat.

It would be "a piece of RTwP shit for faggots", if your argumentation were strictly applied.

But IT IS rtwp shit for faggots!

Right.

So you're saying that Final Fantasy 7 Remake would be a a substantially better game (for an action JRPG nonetheless) if it had a "pure real time" combat system instead of the current RTwP combat system? The latter of which allows the player to pause the game so he can issue tactical commands?

Just wondering.

No answer other than a retardo and "RTwP is shit!" Reinhardt? Cat got your tongue or something? It is just a harmless question.

You have said that "turn-based is good" and that "real time is good", but "real time with pause is shit for faggots".

That said, I am wondering if Squeenix could improve Final Fantasy 7 Remake if they'd simply remove the option to pause the game to issue tactical commands? That would mean it would be a "pure real time" game and not a "RTwP shit" game, at least according to your argumentation.

 

[Reinhardt]

But rtwp is not meat. It's cheap and lazy substitute for both tb and pure rt. Basically - vegan meat.

It would be "a piece of RTwP shit for faggots", if your argumentation were strictly applied.

But IT IS rtwp shit for faggots!

Right.

So you're saying that Final Fantasy 7 Remake would be a a substantially better game (for an action JRPG nonetheless) if it had a "pure real time" combat system instead of the current RTwP combat system? The latter of which allows the player to pause the game so he can issue tactical commands?

Just wondering.

No answer other than a retardo and "RTwP is shit!" Reinhardt? Cat got your tongue or something? It is just a harmless question.

You have said that "turn-based is good" and that "real time is good", but "real time with pause is shit for faggots".

That said, I am wondering if Squeenix could improve Final Fantasy 7 Remake if they'd simply remove the option to pause the game to issue tactical commands? That would mean it would be a "pure real time" game and not a "RTwP shit" game, at least according to your argumentation.

I said FF7 remake battle system is shit. What exactly you can't understand?
Bringing it as some high point of rtwp is retarded move.

 

[User0001]

Has there been any solid talk or info about when early access releases?

Speculations?

 

[InD_ImaginE]

RtwP is balanced meats and vegetable diet, well-cooked but you need to eat with your not-dominant hand.


Pure TB is like raw meat with high-fat content. You will probably get sick and get salmonella eating it. It needs to be cooked and added a lot of spices to be good.

 

[Dodo1610]

Has there been any solid talk or info about when early access releases?

Speculations?

During the gameplay reveal event, Swen said "in a couple of months", so this summer.

 

[User0001]

During the gameplay reveal event, Swen said "in a couple of months", so this summer.

Thanks! Forgot that.

 

[Sweeper]

If PF:KM was turn based, would it be better than D:OS/2?

 

[Heroic Liberator]

If PF:KM was turn based, would it be better than D:OS/2?

Yes.

 

[Sweeper]

Of course, you, I and all the people who aren't retarded know that already.
I just wanna learn how the TB fag thinks.

 

[Elex]

I think that is a bit harsh. I mean games like Blackguards are not all that deep either. That game is hard because the battles are so well tuned, but there are not many spells and abilities. RTWP or not, something like IWD is more complex and interesting. DoS is pretty basic but with a full set of AD&D spells it could be much better. My only issue with DoS was the annoying writing and the shallow combat. Change both of those and I'd be really happy with it.

This is why we should push more on the editor/ DM mode.

 

[NJClaw]

RtwP is balanced meats and vegetable diet, well-cooked but you need to eat with your not-dominant hand.


Pure TB is like raw meat with high-fat content. You will probably get sick and get salmonella eating it. It needs to be cooked and added a lot of spices to be good.

If you think that raw meet NEEDS to be cooked to be good, it only means you never tasted real uncooked meat.

Just like people who criticize TB usually haven't ever played a proper TB game.

 

[InD_ImaginE]

it only means you never tasted real uncooked meat.

200,000 years of human civilization and you still "love" raw meat

I guess it is expected with western civilization whose idea of food is a slab of meat with salt and pepper and cooked nearly raw

 

[Rinslin Merwind]

RtwP is balanced meats and vegetable diet, well-cooked but you need to eat with your not-dominant hand.


Pure TB is like raw meat with high-fat content. You will probably get sick and get salmonella eating it. It needs to be cooked and added a lot of spices to be good.

Just for you to know - people make comparisons to prove their point/explain somethink, meanwhile your comparison is so biased and arrogant, that even a blind person will see that you just showing your irrational hatred to different opinion and refusal to even listen to other people.
You are really dumb if expected that people who don't like RTwP will change their minds just because you compared it to well cooked meat (comparison insulting to well cooked meat btw).
If you created this dumb comparison to harvest shit and retarded ratings, well you can have mine.

I also can reverse your logic against you, for example:

RTwP: A soup that you trying to eat as fast as possible because it's shit, but you have to pause a bit and chew some of solid ingredients, because otherwise they will stuck in your throat and you die.
TB: A tasty caramel candy that you should take your time while eating it, otherwise you can break your tooth, but careful eating is rewarding by sweet taste and you don't feel to rush ahead and swallow candy as whole.

 

[InD_ImaginE]

My comparison for TB is that it is what it is. On its own, it sucks and needs to be cooked well. Wasteland 2 onwards (KS age of CRPG) with countless modern TB CRPG shows that when not cooked well, TB can range from sucks to bland. It breaks the flow of combat, it is fairly boring tactical wise due to overwhelming advantage to player (with most challenges being playing stats bloating the enemies). It is what I am been saying since several pages ago. Cooked well or supported by good side dishes (e.g. in case of Underrail with its strong character building) it can be tasty.

 

[Rinslin Merwind]

My comparison for TB is that it is what it is.On its own, it sucks and needs to be cooked well

You are double idiot, because:
1)"it is what it is" is your brainwashed brain that cannot comprehend stuff like "preferences" and "you can be wrong"
2) ANY FUCKING COMBAT SYSTEM should be properly implemented ( it doesn't matter TB, RTwP, RT and etc) otherwise it will suck.
And wtf is shit like "Tb breaks flow of combat", because TB IS a combat. It's like complaining about chess being slow, what the fuck.

 

[DJOGamer PT]

I guess it is expected with western civilization whose idea of food is a slab of meat with salt and pepper and cooked nearly raw

Better than eastern civilization whose idea of food is eating actually raw shit or put it all in a soup.

 

[Reinhardt]

I guess it is expected with western civilization whose idea of food is

https://www.standardmedia.co.ke/images/thursday/dufqngnkpwvs4qrkfwx35e6a408f88360.jpg

 

[InD_ImaginE]

I guess it is expected with western civilization whose idea of food is

https://www.standardmedia.co.ke/images/thursday/dufqngnkpwvs4qrkfwx35e6a408f88360.jpg

Fried Bat actually tastes good. Snake soup and fried snake too. Need the correct seasoning of course. Never tried Bat Soup tho.